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rgcraig 07-27-2010 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 944420)
Right, it could get a little sticky! LOL! That's why I asked what others thought about it. I remember Goldie Hawn saying that she never watches anything with Kurt kissing another woman. I don't know how they can all live in peace!

They don't.......

ILG 07-27-2010 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 944330)
Well for starters, I don't know what you mean... picky about what?

Picky about sexual content in movies and other media. Now, I am not advocating anything goes (just in case anyone is about to jump me on that.) I am trying to investigate another part of this discussion that never seems to get addressed. Men are more liberal than woman sexually in general, I think. Men, when do you think restraints become a noose? We women just don't want our guys lusting after anyone. We want our husband's total devotion. That's good and only natural, IMO. I am wondering what you men have as lines for yourselves on these matters, or do you just let your wife carry that whole burden? What are your own personal convictions on the matter for yourselves?

ILG 07-27-2010 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 944336)
I have sent emails to Netflix to get a list of the movies you have viewed Timmy. I should have the list by the end of the week.

Since I work in a library, I see what people check out all the time.

Pressing-On 07-27-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 944423)
They don't.......

That's why I asked if God would view their actions as adultery. I think you could be ardently attracted to another man/woman, but when the touching comes in, that would be the downward spiral for me.

I'm just thinking of Catherine Zeta Jones, who is mainly, from the movies I am aware of, passionately involved with the lead man. AND if I am passionately kissing Antonio Banderas, well... will I stop at the kiss? Not if he didn't want to! LOL!

ILG 07-27-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 944383)
I agree for the most part, Miss B, however we can highly sensitize our children by setting the bar too restrictively, especially boys. We should communicate with our children about their bodies, and therefore desensitize them from extreme curiosity, I speak from personal experience.

It is easy for females to completely misunderstand male sexuality, a wise father is very important in this area. It is a powerful thing, and if it can be moderated by education and appropriate exposure, that is a very good thing.

This is what I am talking about. Can you elaborate on what you mean by setting the bar too restrictively and how that affected you negatively? I know this might be personal, but maybe you can generalize.

ILG 07-27-2010 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 944385)
PO,
Maybe that is a bit like being horrified that a married lady has a male doctor???

I won't go to a male doctor, but I had a bad experience. Maybe it doesn't matter at all. But I don't do it.

ILG 07-27-2010 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 944387)
:thumbsup
This instruction on this subject is sorely needed!! Young boys need instruction in how to deal with their sexually very early on. I believe much of the problem with porn, is simply guys never understanding how to deal with their sexuality, and then it can become a horrible cycle of guilt.

Yes, this is what I am getting at. What if we are creating problems by overrestraint and guilt? When is enough enough?

I can say that I thought about sex much, much, more after I got into church and was taught all this stuff than before. Some was for good and some was for bad.

rgcraig 07-27-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 944428)
That's why I asked if God would view their actions as adultery. I think you could be ardently attracted to another man/woman, but when the touching comes in, that would be the downward spiral for me.

I'm just thinking of Catherine Zeta Jones, who is mainly, from the movies I am aware of, passionately involved with the lead man. AND if I am passionately kissing Antonio Banderas, well... will I stop at the kiss? Not if he didn't want to! LOL!

Well, that's why there is so much coming and going of movie stars - - they star in a movie with someone and before you know it - they are leaving their spouses for that person.

Antonio Banderas......well - 'nuff said.

Baron1710 07-27-2010 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 944411)
I agree, wouldn't want my wife doing that, even acting!! My bad!

I wouldn't worry about it though my wife is uncomfortable with it. I think the closest that she came to that in a play was a kiss on the forehead. I seriously wouldn't have a problem with her doing a kissing scene in a play.

Pressing-On 07-27-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 944433)
Well, that's why there is so much coming and going of movie stars - - they star in a movie with someone and before you know it - they are leaving their spouses for that person.

Antonio Banderas......well - 'nuff said.

Yep! LOL!

Baron1710 07-27-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 944433)
Well, that's why there is so much coming and going of movie stars - - they star in a movie with someone and before you know it - they are leaving their spouses for that person.

Antonio Banderas......well - 'nuff said.

That is people in general but there are exceptions. Paul Newman comes to mind, Alan Alda has been married for over 50 years as has James Garner and Kirk Douglas. Charlton Heston was married for over 60 years.

rgcraig 07-27-2010 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 944439)
That is people in general but there are exceptions. Paul Newman comes to mind, Alan Alda has been married for over 50 years as has James Garner and Kirk Douglas. Charlton Heston was married for over 60 years.

You are correct, they are the good examples!

Timmy 07-27-2010 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 944428)
That's why I asked if God would view their actions as adultery. I think you could be ardently attracted to another man/woman, but when the touching comes in, that would be the downward spiral for me.

I'm just thinking of Catherine Zeta Jones, who is mainly, from the movies I am aware of, passionately involved with the lead man. AND if I am passionately kissing Antonio Banderas, well... will I stop at the kiss? Not if he didn't want to! LOL!

I've heard actors and actresses say it's just acting, and there's too much going on around them -- crew, cameras, lights, etc. -- for there to be any feelings or arousal involved. It's just work, to them.

Yeah. I don't believe them, either! :toofunny

ILG 07-27-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 944442)
You are correct, they are the good examples!

Maybe. Or maybe they have "understanding" wives!

crakjak 07-27-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 944434)
I wouldn't worry about it though my wife is uncomfortable with it. I think the closest that she came to that in a play was a kiss on the forehead. I seriously wouldn't have a problem with her doing a kissing scene in a play.

The forehead kiss is no problem, my wife has be pecked a few times by friends. The passionate kissing scene is another matter...

Pressing-On 07-27-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 944443)
I've heard actors and actresses say it's just acting, and there's too much going on around them -- crew, cameras, lights, etc. -- for there to be any feelings or arousal involved. It's just work, to them.

Yeah. I don't believe them, either! :toofunny

I heard Sandra Bullock, in an interview, say that you will eventually "do" the man you are staring with. From the horses mouth! LOL! I don't remember the other actors sitting with her (three men). They didn't deny it.

crakjak 07-27-2010 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 944448)
I heard Sandra Bullock, in an interview, say that you will eventually "do" the man you are staring with. From the horses mouth! LOL! I don't remember the other actors sitting with her (three men). They didn't deny it.

There you have it!!!:thumbsup

Scott Hutchinson 07-27-2010 09:46 AM

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Actors are human too,and if certain feelings get stirred the chemicals will explode.

It might be like the preacher that said a man ought to be so full of The Holy Ghost that he ought to be able to look at a naked woman without lusting at her,well he got caught in adultery.

ILG 07-27-2010 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 944450)
Actors are human too,and if certain feelings get stirred the chemicals will explode.

It might be like the preacher that said a man ought to be so full of The Holy Ghost that he ought to be able to look at a naked woman without lusting at her,well he got caught in adultery.

Maybe he practiced the looking part one too many times. :neener

Scott Hutchinson 07-27-2010 09:50 AM

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I'm telling you ILG a older sister who has been in the Oneness ranks a long time told that.

Timmy 07-27-2010 09:53 AM

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You've got to wonder about some of the things preachers say. We had a pastor who said that he couldn't lie. First of all, what an odd thing to say! It's like, what, you've tried to lie but couldn't? :blink Anyway, you guessed it. Turns out he pretty much couldn't not lie! Amazing.

rgcraig 07-27-2010 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 944451)
Maybe he practiced the looking part one too many times. :neener

Or he wasn't "full of the Holy Ghost"........:grampa

Just because someone is full of the HG, doesn't mean they can't feel.

ILG 07-27-2010 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 944453)
You've got to wonder about some of the things preachers say. We had a pastor who said that he couldn't lie. First of all, what an odd thing to say! It's like, what, you've tried to lie but couldn't? :blink Anyway, you guessed it. Turns out he pretty much couldn't not lie! Amazing.

Well, when he said he couldn't lie, he lied. LOL!:ursofunny

ILG 07-27-2010 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 944456)
Or he wasn't "full of the Holy Ghost"........:grampa

Just because someone is full of the HG, doesn't mean they can't feel.

Ah, yes, that would be an Emmaism, if you don't mind my saying so. Emma always takes the illogical extreme and applies it. So, yes, it wasn't because he was looking, it was because he wasn't spiritual enough! He needed to talk in tongues WHILE he looked. That probably would have done it! ;)

Scott Hutchinson 07-27-2010 09:57 AM

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If someone is full of The Holy Ghost it would seem that emotionally they might be more sensitive in all of their emotions perhaps ?

Timmy 07-27-2010 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 944462)
If someone is full of The Holy Ghost it would seem that emotionally they might be more sensitive in all of their emotions perhaps ?

Now there's a thought! :hmmm

rgcraig 07-27-2010 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 944462)
If someone is full of The Holy Ghost it would seem that emotionally they might be more sensitive in all of their emotions perhaps ?

EXCELLENT point!

The "spritual high" more than likely releases endorphines too.

ILG 07-27-2010 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 944465)
EXCELLENT point!

The "spritual high" more than likely releases endorphines too.

So someone filled with the HG might be MORE likely to commit adultery????? Not sure what you are saying here.

Timmy 07-27-2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 944457)
Well, when he said he couldn't lie, he lied. LOL!:ursofunny

That man was unbelievable. Literally! :lol

rgcraig 07-27-2010 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 944467)
So someone filled with the HG might be MORE likely to commit adultery????? Not sure what you are saying here.

Lol....no, I don't think that's what we are saying at all.

Scott Hutchinson 07-27-2010 10:05 AM

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Have you ever noticed in church how say you have a brother that has a wife not in church and then you have a sister whose husband is not in church,and then these two start hanging around each other and then boom all of a sudden they're having an affair.

crakjak 07-27-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 944471)
Have you ever noticed in church how say you have a brother that has a wife not in church and then you have a sister whose husband is not in church,and then these two start hanging around each other and then boom all of a sudden they're having an affair.

No.

rgcraig 07-27-2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 944471)
Have you ever noticed in church how say you have a brother that has a wife not in church and then you have a sister whose husband is not in church,and then these two start hanging around each other and then boom all of a sudden they're having an affair.

Can't say that I have seen this either.

Scott Hutchinson 07-27-2010 10:11 AM

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Sometimes because people whose spouses aren't in church,feel lonely and in need of companionship and they can start to feel attracted to the other brother or sister they start hanging around with. Sometimes this does happen.

Scott Hutchinson 07-27-2010 10:15 AM

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Let me say something here this does not always with people who have spouses not in church,but it can happen and it has happened before.

Wheter one is a believer or not,one must be careful with our feelings and urges and the situations one puts theirselves into.

Socialite 07-27-2010 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 944324)
Or books with sex, presumably?

(Come on now, you all see where I'm going with this, don't you? :heeheehee)

Some would argue that the Bible and other literature that includes intimacy, sex, violence, etc aren't written in a way to stimulate or provoke. A Harlequin paperback and the movie Basic Instinct overly focus on the deviant behavior of their characters, glamorizing and hyping the trash.

ILG 07-27-2010 10:16 AM

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What does watching sex scenes cause? Does it cause adultery? Does it make people want to do what they see? Does it make people want to have sex? Is that bad?

I know some of the answers to some of this, but really, I am trying to think outside the box here by asking what to some may or may not seem obvious.

If a romantic scene brings out romantic feelings in me and makes me feel loving towards my husband, that is not bad, right? If instead it makes me want the guy on the screen and look with disdain upon my husband, that would be bad. But, that would be bringing out issues that are already there.

I dunno. Just thinking out loud. Everybody here seems a bit confused anyway.

Socialite 07-27-2010 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 944331)
Why do people jump to "sin" as soon as something is discussed as being less than beneficial, not of good report, unwholesome, or otherwise undesirable for Christian entertainment?

What thoughts enter a man's mind while watching a nude woman, a questionable scene or some adulterous affair being acted out?

We are condemned by our actions or by our heart?

Scott Hutchinson 07-27-2010 10:20 AM

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Let me say this.Sex is not a bad thing in the context it was intended it is a gift from The Lord.It's like dirt dirt is good in your yard,but you don't bring it into your house and throw it on your carpet.

Socialite 07-27-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 944401)
I think that some movies are just too racy and indecent to be viewed. However, some otherwise great films sometimes have love scenes that are inappropriate for young audiences. I think these films, if viewed, should be viewed during "grown up time" without children present.

Imagine what would be on the screen if someone did a true-to-life film about the entire Bible...

Making love is part of life. No matter how we try to insulate ourselves and our children from it, we'll see it on occasion. As long as we keep ourselves and our children seeing this act in a biblical context, I believe things will be okay. However, I hope that our children get their image and concept of making love from parents and not Hollywood.

Key concept is education and balance.


What makes the indecent love scenes more appropriate for the 40-year old father anymore than the 15-year old teenager?

That making love is part of life, should we lose all sense of bashful constraint with all things that are "part of life?" Are some things reserved for private expression only? Because sex is part of life, do we invite sexual partners to put on a show in our homes?


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