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Sherri 10-21-2007 08:35 PM
Sadly, there are many of these gay oneness Pentecostal churches popping up all over the U.S. I know of one in Tampa, Scottsdale, Indianapolis, somewhere in Arkansas, and there are a lot more. A gal I went to JCM with is the music minister at one and she can use scripture to justify her lifestyle, but it's so twisted. Very sad! Almost all of the pastors have UPC roots.

timlan2057 10-21-2007 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 277385)
Almost all of the pastors have UPC roots.
What will REALLY be something is when the ultra-con gay churches start splitting off from the liberal gay churches over TV advertising. :pirate

Sherri 10-21-2007 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by timlan2057 (Post 277393)
What will REALLY be something is when the ultra-con gay churches start splitting off from the liberal gay churches over TV advertising. :pirate
Oh, that was BAD!!!!:tvhappy

Hoovie 10-21-2007 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 277385)
Sadly, there are many of these gay oneness Pentecostal churches popping up all over the U.S. I know of one in Tampa, Scottsdale, Indianapolis, somewhere in Arkansas, and there are a lot more. A gal I went to JCM with is the music minister at one and she can use scripture to justify her lifestyle, but it's so twisted. Very sad! Almost all of the pastors have UPC roots.
Is there an inference here that Oneness Petecostals have a disproportionate number of Gay defectors?

CC1 10-21-2007 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 277407)
Is there an inference here that Oneness Petecostals have a disproportionate number of Gay defectors?
Calm down big boy! I thnk she is just making an observation, not an inference.

It is a fact that there are the gay pentecostal churches springing up that she listed and it is a fact that they are pastored and staffed by ex UPCers.

That doesn't mean there are not more non exUPC gay churches but right now the Oneness Gay Pentecostal churches we know about all are ones that have these UPC roots.

It only makes sense since the UPC is one of the largest Oneness denominations. Because there is a lot bigger pool of licensed preachers to start with it is no surprise that many of these gay Oneness Pentecostal churches are staffed by exUPCers.

Steve Epley 10-21-2007 10:10 PM
ONE is TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many.:runhills

RevDWW 10-21-2007 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 277426)
ONE is TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many.:runhills
AMEN.



I just wonder why their bible doesn't seem to include the book of Romans??????

Scott Hutchinson 10-21-2007 10:30 PM
Lost as two girls kissing.Yuck.

Old Paths 10-21-2007 10:59 PM
C. Garrett along with another preacher was scheluded to preach the Sun. night service at Ark. camp meeting at NLR in 1999, but while the first preacher ministered the Spirit moved in the service and Garrett never came to the pulpit.

bethola 10-21-2007 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 277132)
He went to a Baptist Bible College at Conway, Ar. he was out 'witnessing' and knocked on Elder Blassingames door and Sis. Blassingame witnessed to him about the truth. He came back later Elder Blassingame gave him a Bible study. After getting baptized he began working out of Elder C. E. George's church at Jonesboro. He had a photographic memory. He had debates with Campbellites. I never was impressed with him something always seemed missing to me although I did not know him real well. I was indeed sad to hear of this level of degeneration he sunk to. A few months ago someone told me what he did and gave me his site I think he was in Corpus Cristi, Tx. pastoring a gay church. I do NOT think he is related to the Arizona Garretts.
I can't BELIEVE THIS! My brother has MET THIS GUY!! In fact, he e-mailed me about him! Yes, he did pastor a SMALL group of "open and affirming" individuals. BUT, according to my brother the board asked him to leave after only a few months and when he wouldn't leave they actually CHANGED THE LOCKS so he couldn't get in!

Now, what group in Madisonville KY did he run with? I've been here my entire life and have never heard of this guy!

Beth

Pastor Keith 10-21-2007 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Paths (Post 277461)
C. Garrett along with another preacher was scheluded to preach the Sun. night service at Ark. camp meeting at NLR in 1999, but while the first preacher ministered the Spirit moved in the service and Garrett never came to the pulpit.

Sounds like your saying it was a God thing to keep the future reprobate from infecting others with his virus.

Old Paths 10-21-2007 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by keith4him (Post 277466)
Sounds like your saying it was a God thing to keep the future reprobate from infecting others with his virus.


No that's not what I was saying, but it does sound right.

Just giving a little history.

Pastor Keith 10-21-2007 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Paths (Post 277470)
No that's not what I was saying, but it does sound right.

Just giving a little history.
I know, just doing some TIC, was this guy prominent and what in your opinion would lead to this radical change.

Joseph Miller 10-21-2007 11:23 PM
I don't know why he is considered prominent. I never liked his preaching myself.

I would say that the devil is behind the change.

MissBrattified 10-21-2007 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Thad (Post 277027)
you're not the first person to mention this.

I got word that he was ultra conservative at one time
Ultra conservative? On doctrine maybe...he was always a bit whacky, but we liked him and considered him a friend. He preached for my Dad a bunch of times, and stayed in our home. He was at our wedding. (He wrote scriptures all over our get-away car...Jeff was SO mad about that! LOL!)

He participated in a debate with a church of Christ preacher in Joplin.

I do remember one odd thing...I remember him saying that when he and his wife were married, that when they got to their hotel, they prayed together before...er...consummating the marriage. Not that its bad to pray...just it seemed a bit weird.... :depressed

Joseph Miller 10-21-2007 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 277478)
Ultra conservative? On doctrine maybe...he was always a bit whacky, but we liked him and considered him a friend. He preached for my Dad a bunch of times, and stayed in our home. He was at our wedding. (He wrote scriptures all over our get-away car...Jeff was SO mad about that! LOL!)

He participated in a debate with a church of Christ preacher in Joplin.

I do remember one odd thing...I remember him saying that when he and his wife were married, that when they got to their hotel, they prayed together before...er...consummating the marriage. Not that its bad to pray...just it seemed a bit weird.... :depressed
VERY MUCH.

SoCaliUPC 10-21-2007 11:38 PM
MB.... I have heard others who have done that little ritual. Odd....

ILuvFPC 10-21-2007 11:48 PM
WOW!!!
I'm NOT believing this!!!!!!!!!!!! I have heard this guy preach SOOO many times.... I had heard he had went charasmatic but NOT gay!!!!! wow...
This is like, i can't even describe it, really saddening...depressing almost...

He preached at my old church many many times before he got "big time" and yes he definitly was what some of you would call "UC" (that was way back, he loosened up a little bit when his old pastor died) He started out in an independent church i believe.. He preached at FPC before, years ago...
He married the pastor's daughter of one of the upc churches in el dorado, AR.. tarrah, whom he mentioned.. and he did join UPC...
WOW.. totally shocking......

Neck 10-21-2007 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 277478)
Ultra conservative? On doctrine maybe...he was always a bit whacky, but we liked him and considered him a friend. He preached for my Dad a bunch of times, and stayed in our home. He was at our wedding. (He wrote scriptures all over our get-away car...Jeff was SO mad about that! LOL!)

He participated in a debate with a church of Christ preacher in Joplin.

I do remember one odd thing...I remember him saying that when he and his wife were married, that when they got to their hotel, they prayed together before...er...consummating the marriage. Not that its bad to pray...just it seemed a bit weird.... :depressed
He was most ilkely praying she had a headache.

Joseph Miller 10-21-2007 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt (Post 277503)
He was most ilkely praying she had a headache.

:pirate:pirate:pirate

:scoregood:scoregood

JaneEyre 10-21-2007 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ILuvFPC (Post 277499)
WOW!!!
I'm NOT believing this!!!!!!!!!!!! I have heard this guy preach SOOO many times.... I had heard he had went charasmatic but NOT gay!!!!! wow...
This is like, i can't even describe it, really saddening...depressing almost...

He preached at my old church many many times before he got "big time" and yes he definitly was what some of you would call "UC" (that was way back, he loosened up a little bit when his old pastor died) He started out in an independent church i believe.. He preached at FPC before, years ago...
He married the pastor's daughter of one of the upc churches in el dorado, AR.. tarrah, whom he mentioned.. and he did join UPC...
WOW.. totally shocking......
.........ILuvFPC, it is totally shocking. ...Are you talking about Bro. C.E. George in Jonesboro as being the pastor who died? I think Bro. Epley said he had attended Bro. Blessingame's church in Conway, Arkansas first and then Jonesboro? Maybe? I may have been at NLR in 1999. I can't remember. I know I was there one year around that time. All I know is that I heard about him and did hear him preach once (my husband had to remind me - so this guy must not have been too memorable) - but didn't realize he'd gone so far off the deep end.

MissBrattified 10-21-2007 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ILuvFPC (Post 277499)
tarrah
I can't imagine what that woman has been through. :depressed *sigh*

Steadfast 10-22-2007 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 277270)
Is/Was? Wouldn't it better to find out if they knew about him, then to make innuendo that these organizations promote/agree with this guys lifestyle, after all he was preaching in our ranks as well.
You obviously read something into the post that I wasn't trying to say. It was common knowledge he was with us... then preached for ICOF and AWCF. The "is/was" is alluding only to the fact that they may not - like most of us - have known that he went pervert on them.

Never made any innuendos that his present lifestyle was approved by them. I'm actually surprised that you thought I had... I see nothing remotely implying that I did.

ILuvFPC 10-22-2007 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JaneEyre (Post 277505)
.........ILuvFPC, it is totally shocking. ...Are you talking about Bro. C.E. George in Jonesboro as being the pastor who died? I think Bro. Epley said he had attended Bro. Blessingame's church in Conway, Arkansas first and then Jonesboro? Maybe? I may have been at NLR in 1999. I can't remember. I know I was there one year around that time. All I know is that I heard about him and did hear him preach once (my husband had to remind me - so this guy must not have been too memorable) - but didn't realize he'd gone so far off the deep end.
I'm not sure which pastor, i remember him mentioning it when he was preaching at my old church (not fpc-nlr) that his ministry was changing and he wasn't as dogmatic, or words to that effect, on some issues as he once was since his pastor had passed.
I am listening to another one of his 'messages' now... he is talking about the "love of his life" the dude thats HIV positive... GROSSSSSSSSSS
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!

JaneEyre 10-22-2007 12:09 AM
I was thinking about the song, "Sin Will Take You Farther Than You Want To Go" ...but it sounds like he wants to go where he is.

It amazes me, too, that he doesn't seem to mind the fact that his partner is HIV Positive. I can't imagine the deception this man is in - or is it more than deception? ....Not only is he deceived, but he is attempting to deceive others by "ministering" to them. Lord, don't let me be turned over to a reprobate mind to believe a lie and be damned.

It appears others around him may be deceived, too. Good grief, is it possible to get out of a pit this deep???

ILuvFPC 10-22-2007 12:13 AM
the memories are just rolling in... he preached so many revivals in my old church in south east arkansas... He was preaching the night i got baptized when i was 8 years old.... that was about 15 years ago...
Has anyone listened to his debates??? Dude knew his Bible! He made them church of christ (or church w/o Christ :pirate) dudes look plain stupid!!
this really just hurts..... so sad.....

SoCaliUPC 10-22-2007 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt (Post 277503)
He was most ilkely praying she had a headache.
That is just wrong! Funny though!!

Thad 10-22-2007 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ILuvFPC (Post 277518)
the memories are just rolling in... he preached so many revivals in my old church in south east arkansas... He was preaching the night i got baptized when i was 8 years old.... that was about 15 years ago...
Has anyone listened to his debates??? Dude knew his Bible! He made them church of christ (or church w/o Christ :pirate) dudes look plain stupid!!
this really just hurts..... so sad.....

and to think he went from debating Oneness to being a Trinitarian!

Thad 10-22-2007 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 277506)
I can't imagine what that woman has been through. :depressed *sigh*


as I said he claims she is 100% behind it- that's bizzare in and of itself

Joseph Miller 10-22-2007 02:19 AM
For real

MissBrattified 10-22-2007 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Thad (Post 277549)
as I said he claims she is 100% behind it- that's bizzare in and of itself
I highly doubt it. Not that he claims it...but that she's actually behind it.

Joseph Miller 10-22-2007 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 277551)
I highly doubt it. Not that he claims it...but that she's actually behind it.

NO woman in her right mind would be behind such nasty things.

Thad 10-22-2007 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by papapraiz (Post 277381)
Hey... church starts in 15 minutes. What are you doing posting on AFF?
and how'd you know??:pirate
& BTW I made it right on time for our 6pm prayer meeting :saycheese
AND we had a shoutin' good time tonight!! I mean to tell ya !

Joseph Miller 10-22-2007 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Thad (Post 277554)
and how'd you know??:pirate
& BTW I made it right on time for our 6pm prayer meeting :saycheese
AND we had a shoutin' good time tonight!! I mean to tell ya !

We had an awesome service tonight. I love it when the Holy Ghost fills the house and people seem to respond to everything the preacher says.

Thad 10-22-2007 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Miller (Post 277553)
NO woman in her right mind would be behind such nasty things.
Living in Hollywood can warp almost anyone IF you are open or allow it

Thad 10-22-2007 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Miller (Post 277556)
We had an awesome service tonight. I love it when the Holy Ghost fills the house and people seem to respond to everything the preacher says.
That's right brother! :shockamoo

Joseph Miller 10-22-2007 02:35 AM
I was preaching a pastor appreciation service. I only had 20 mins to preach (I normally preach about 45/50 mins). It was all the Holy Ghost. God just really anointed the preaching tonight. I know it ain't about me, but every preacher I know likes it when the preaching is "easy". I think any of those preachers that were there tonight could have preached with the anointing that was in that house.

Thad 10-22-2007 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Miller (Post 277563)
I was preaching a pastor appreciation service. I only had 20 mins to preach (I normally preach about 45/50 mins). It was all the Holy Ghost. God just really anointed the preaching tonight. I know it ain't about me, but every preacher I know likes it when the preaching is "easy". I think any of those preachers that were there tonight could have preached with the anointing that was in that house.

and where was this ?

Joseph Miller 10-22-2007 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Thad (Post 277575)
and where was this ?

Celina, OH

revrandy 10-22-2007 09:26 AM
A man gives himself over to lust until he burns...turning true desire into perversion and now apostacy... go figure....


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