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Sam 12-31-2007 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Thad (Post 340991)
Most Blacks don't like Keyes - not sure why


most I have talked to can't stand Condi Rice and to mention clarence thomas you might as well have said the name of the anti christ.

again, not sure what the deal is - they tell me that they are all stuck up and think they are white

Keyes, Rice, and Thomas are conservative.
Liberals like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson condemn them as "oreos" (chocolate on the outside but white on the inside) because they do not espouse the "entitlement" mentality.

freeatlast 12-31-2007 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 341017)
Just wondering if Pastor Schmitz would admit to Keyes preaching a sermon at his church... I know the standard protocol for this type of thing is to say he just "spoke" to the congregation.

Ironically, after speaking/preaching for an hour ... the journalist describes his message as a sermon in the newspaper article.

** Is Schmitz ... con, mod, or lib?

If it's the only Schmitz that I know in Iowa, he would be considered as a conservative by most of us here.

The church he pastors is multicultural. From all I know of him he is a good man in every respect.

SDG 12-31-2007 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 341104)
If it's the only Schmitz that I know in Iowa, he would be considered as a conservative by most of us here.

The church he pastors is multicultural. From all I know of him he is a good man in every respect.

So a con had Alan Keyes preach in his church????

Wow.

freeatlast 12-31-2007 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 341116)
So a con had Alan Keyes preach in his church????

Wow.

Just looked on Iowa website to make sure there was no other Schmitz's

J Scmitz is pretty main stream UPC.

He looks like our own Elder Epley..if Epley'd loose 30 pounds.

I'm in Iowa and have not heard of Keyes being there myself, but then it's not like we have our own Thad reporting the news from the Iowa corn fields.

I hope the church and town of cedar Rapids was richly blessed by the ministry of Bro. Keyes

We had an Iowa state representive host one of Saturday Night Life programs recently.

Our next SNL will be hosted by one of our local TV New Reporters.

Niether of these guest hosts are Pentecostal, but the people that come to our SNL programs at least get to get aquainted with us at our church in a casual setting.

Apprehended 12-31-2007 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 341100)
Keyes, Rice, and Thomas are conservative.
Liberals like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson condemn them as "oreos" (chocolate on the outside but white on the inside) because they do not espouse the "entitlement" mentality.

I would be in favor of cutting out entitlements except in extreme cases, forcing able bodied men (and women) to get off the couch on the front porch and actually become productive. However, it will never happen. We've turned the keys to the treasury over to them by the power of the ballot. There are no longer leaders worth their salt who can inspire vision prefering to hold on to personal power by pandering to this weakness. Thus, the fiber of our nation is increasingly weakened by this genus of immorality and greed.

philjones 12-31-2007 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 341092)
Unlike every other culture, they have never been taught by the leaders that they respect how to assimilate in general culture. Instead, the vast majority of them listen to the likes of Jackson and Sharpton whose agenda is to divide for the sake of their own purse.

A few black leaders have tried to gain a respectable voice among them to help navigate the blacks into general assimilation, such as Mr. Cosby, but have been largely ballyhooed as an Uncle Tom. Persons such as Sharpton and Jackson have done their own race an enormous discredit from which it will take many decades to recover and possibly never will if blacks continue attributing credit and respect to such voices.

If you want to get the full perspective of what they are taught, you should visit the web site of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago where Hussein Obama attends. Totally Afro Centric and racist!

rgcraig 12-31-2007 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by philjones (Post 341298)
If you want to get the full perspective of what they are taught, you should visit the web site of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago where Hussein Obama attends. Totally Afro Centric and racist!

I know what you mean. The black mayor here in Memphis keeps things so stirred up, it's pathetic!


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