Originally Posted by scotty (Post 411572)

whose "we"....you got a mouse in your pocket brother??

Some of us UPC don't identify with what we wear, but we wear it anyway.

"Don't get me wrong, I believe Holiness standards are good,
But Hell don't care about your standards.
The devil don't tremble because of the way you dress"
--Pastor Mike Mitchell, Brooklyn NY. UPC

Originally Posted by Kings Kid (Post 412189)

I agree. Sometimes I wonder if they care more about standards or saving a person.

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 411572)

whose "we"....you got a mouse in your pocket brother??

Some of us UPC don't identify with what we wear, but we wear it anyway.

"Don't get me wrong, I believe Holiness standards are good,
But Hell don't care about your standards.
The devil don't tremble because of the way you dress"
--Pastor Mike Mitchell, Brooklyn NY. UPC

Originally Posted by Theophil (Post 412242)

One of the problems is that some people think standards=salvation. Their plan of salvation is Acts 2:38 + dozens of other things.

Originally Posted by tv1a (Post 412260)

What else could be meant by apostolic identity in that statement? Sure can't be signs and wonders. Well maybe the wonders bit, but for the wrong reasons. Unless the organization is willing to make an universal dress code, it is a waste of time to put money into a subjective viewpoint. Thousands of dollars wll be spent to teach "apostolic identity". A misplaced priority.

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 412431)

Last time I checked it didn't cost any money for UPC and the like to teach "Apostolic Identity".

Most preachers preach and teach the clothesline legalism with great gusto each and every time they take the pulpit (well almost).

Even those that don't preach / teach the clothesline adnaseum allude to it in just about every sermon to reinforce the times they do preach / teach on it.

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 412431)

Last time I checked it didn't cost any money for UPC and the like to teach "Apostolic Identity".

Most preachers preach and teach the clothesline legalism with great gusto each and every time they take the pulpit (well almost).

Even those that don't preach / teach the clothesline adnaseum allude to it in just about every sermon to reinforce the times they do preach / teach on it.

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate (Post 412436)

I have never heard of it taking $$ to teach "Apostolic Identity"

...and where I come from, I always thought the apostolic identity was more in line with the oneness of God and Jesus Name baptism..... not standards.....