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ChicagoPastor 12-08-2008 06:28 PM

Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
 
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Originally Posted by Nahum (Post 651173)
A few things to consider.

1. Why is the physical address for the church listed as St. Charles, Mo if Wayne is moving back to Yonkers?

2. Why no mention of the UPCI at all? I am surprised that WF would not list his current position with the org.

3. His doctrinal statement is a bit weak.

His position isn't listed because once he starts the church he will have resigned from his position.

He's already let them know he's stepping down. I'm not sure when he oficially is not a part of the National leadership team.

ChicagoPastor 12-08-2008 06:29 PM

Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
 
Delta,
I've learned that you are anti-anything that is or resembles the UPC....

Nahum 12-08-2008 07:16 PM

Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
 
Chicago Pastor, why is Wayne Francis leaving his position with the UPC?

Is he leaving the organization, or just his job?

ChicagoPastor 12-08-2008 07:35 PM

Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
 
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Originally Posted by Nahum (Post 651204)
Chicago Pastor, why is Wayne Francis leaving his position with the UPC?

Is he leaving the organization, or just his job?

he's leaving the job at HQ's
He feels God calling him home to NY to Pastor.

I think, at this point, by the time National Youth President opens up again he'd be too old to take the position.

Wayne is not politicaly minded so I'm not sure if that would play into his decision or not.

Nahum 12-08-2008 07:42 PM

Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
 
Is he leaving the org?

ChicagoPastor 12-08-2008 07:47 PM

Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
 
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Originally Posted by Nahum (Post 651223)
Is he leaving the org?

no no no.

He is still and will continue to be UPC
he's one of the top (at least top 10) youth speakers in our organization

Pastor Keith 12-08-2008 10:21 PM

Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
 
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 651022)

As opposed to irrelevant?

George 12-09-2008 02:00 AM

Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nahum (Post 651204)
Chicago Pastor, why is Wayne Francis leaving his position with the UPC?

Is he leaving the organization, or just his job?

Not sure of the answer but after all the flack he got for the last Youth Congress, it doesn't surprise me. I wouldn't want to work with people who placed blame on me unfairly.

StMark 12-09-2008 02:29 AM

Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
 
You people don't need to start nit-picking and tearing Bro Francis down in his efforts and methods of outreach.
I'm sure he believes the truth let him win souls in the wisdom that he is called to do. God bless you Bro Francis in
your efforts to start your new church. Shame on all his critics!

Michael Phelps 12-09-2008 06:45 AM

Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
 
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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 651487)
You people don't need to start nit-picking and tearing Bro Francis down in his efforts and methods of outreach.
I'm sure he believes the truth let him win souls in the wisdom that he is called to do. God bless you Bro Francis in
your efforts to start your new church. Shame on all his critics!

Who are his critics, Mark?


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