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houston 07-27-2012 10:00 PM

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A word from God with "what are you smoking?"

PRICELESS!!!

Jermyn Davidson 07-28-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tv1a (Post 1178639)
Don't know what is worse. Knowing something and not teliing it or telling people you know something and not say what it is. That person expects people to change churches based on innuendo? That's just as ignorant.

Don't know what's so ignorant about this post.

The person felt moved by GOD to post this for a reason.

The poster gives examples of the Pastor's lies and etc and tells the people to leave.


Is there a Biblical precedent for warning one of God's anointed men in a public setting-- that's my only question.

tv1a 07-29-2012 07:45 AM

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What are you smoking...eh reading? There are no details in the post. You couldn't convict James Harris with information this vague.

One thing many people for get about "Biblically" warning God's anointed is not every Tom, Dick, or Harry is given that authority. I doubt God gave that person the authority to rebuke the pastor. The rebuke comes from leadership. Study scripture about public rebuke. It goes from private, to 2 or 3 elders, to congregation. If you don't get the results you want after that, get over it and move on. Don't be the south bound end of a horse's tail because you were unable to convince people you were right. You move on quietly.

The post doesn't fit the characteristics of God. Elijah wasn't vague or cryptic. He put all his cards on the table.

I doubt the poster is sincere. I've seen "disgruntled" saints pull this drama for years.

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1178695)
Don't know what's so ignorant about this post.

The person felt moved by GOD to post this for a reason.

The poster gives examples of the Pastor's lies and etc and tells the people to leave.


Is there a Biblical precedent for warning one of God's anointed men in a public setting-- that's my only question.


tv1a 07-29-2012 07:57 AM

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Some things which stand out. Why that post wasn't God inspired. When God spoke through the prophets, the first thing they said was "Thus saith the Lord". The prophets didn't go on a rant then drop a supernatural phrase in the middle of it. For me it reinforces the fact the post is a personal attack as opposed to a legitimate concern. Second, it looks like the post was written on all caps. Third, no sign of humility or love in the post. I would ask the poster "What are you smoking??


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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1178640)
A word from God with "what are you smoking?"

PRICELESS!!!


Jermyn Davidson 07-30-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tv1a (Post 1178782)
What are you smoking...eh reading? There are no details in the post. You couldn't convict James Harris with information this vague.

One thing many people for get about "Biblically" warning God's anointed is not every Tom, Dick, or Harry is given that authority. I doubt God gave that person the authority to rebuke the pastor. The rebuke comes from leadership. Study scripture about public rebuke. It goes from private, to 2 or 3 elders, to congregation. If you don't get the results you want after that, get over it and move on. Don't be the south bound end of a horse's tail because you were unable to convince people you were right. You move on quietly.

The post doesn't fit the characteristics of God. Elijah wasn't vague or cryptic. He put all his cards on the table.

I doubt the poster is sincere. I've seen "disgruntled" saints pull this drama for years.


I understand what you are saying and agree with you.

HolyFire 07-30-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tv1a (Post 1178782)
What are you smoking...eh reading? There are no details in the post. You couldn't convict James Harris with information this vague.

One thing many people forget about "Biblically" warning God's anointed is not every Tom, Dick, or Harry is given that authority. I doubt God gave that person the authority to rebuke the pastor. The rebuke comes from leadership. Study scripture about public rebuke. It goes from private, to 2 or 3 elders, to congregation. If you don't get the results you want after that, get over it and move on. Don't be the south bound end of a horse's tail because you were unable to convince people you were right. You move on quietly.

The post doesn't fit the characteristics of God. Elijah wasn't vague or cryptic. He put all his cards on the table.

I doubt the poster is sincere. I've seen "disgruntled" saints pull this drama for years.

What if they have rejected leadership like RG?

tv1a 08-01-2012 11:17 AM

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I have no problem if the pastor's removal is done according to scriptire. I don't care for blowhards with an axe to grind making vague threats and innuendos against the pastor.

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Originally Posted by HolyFire (Post 1179128)
What if they have rejected leadership like RG?


themoneyjoe 09-17-2012 12:17 AM

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Well it finally happened someone at WYSIWYG filmworks went off the deep end and tried to kill Richard Gazowsky. I know who the person is that did this, but am not allowed to mention any names. The person stabbed Richard in the chest, he wasn't seriously injured but got a few stiches. Appearantly the person who did this snapped, and had enough of all the lies and all the evil that RG has abused the church with,and it came to a head with this latest incident. I got this information from one of RG's family members who left the church ages ago because they too couldn't stomach all the lies and all the evil that is still going on there today. No wonder a former member called him out on issues of things going on at the VOP, till this day RG hasn't repented or changed he continues with his spiritual abuse. The charges are dropped by RG against the member, however it was attempted murder so now it is up to the D.A. to let it go or not. I bet RG is sitting back thinking about making a movie on what happened or possibly a book will come out of this whole thing. Only time will tell. They kept this out of the media some how, but the story is true. Got it from a family members own mouth. Joe

houston 09-17-2012 12:49 AM

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I couldn't find a link to a news article.

Jay 09-17-2012 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1188734)
I couldn't find a link to a news article.


Did you try his website?

themoneyjoe 09-17-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1188734)
I couldn't find a link to a news article.


Their wasn't any news article the Gazowsky's kept it out of the news media somehow.....:happydance

Michael Phelps 09-17-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by themoneyjoe (Post 1188729)
Well it finally happened someone at WYSIWYG filmworks went off the deep end and tried to kill Richard Gazowsky. I know who the person is that did this, but am not allowed to mention any names. The person stabbed Richard in the chest, he wasn't seriously injured but got a few stiches. Appearantly the person who did this snapped, and had enough of all the lies and all the evil that RG has abused the church with,and it came to a head with this latest incident. I got this information from one of RG's family members who left the church ages ago because they too couldn't stomach all the lies and all the evil that is still going on there today. No wonder a former member called him out on issues of things going on at the VOP, till this day RG hasn't repented or changed he continues with his spiritual abuse. The charges are dropped by RG against the member, however it was attempted murder so now it is up to the D.A. to let it go or not. I bet RG is sitting back thinking about making a movie on what happened or possibly a book will come out of this whole thing. Only time will tell. They kept this out of the media some how, but the story is true. Got it from a family members own mouth. Joe

Oh brother, here we go again..........

Michael Phelps 09-17-2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by themoneyjoe (Post 1188759)
Their wasn't any news article the Gazowsky's kept it out of the news media somehow.....:happydance

Wow, he must be more powerful than the Royal Family....they couldn't keep topless pictures out of the media.......nor could Tiger Woods keep his personal issues out of the media.......I'd say RG is more powerful than anyone in the world if he can control the media! :heeheehee

Here's another scenario.......it didn't happen.

strait shooter 09-17-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 1188761)
Wow, he must be more powerful than the Royal Family....they couldn't keep topless pictures out of the media.......nor could Tiger Woods keep his personal issues out of the media.......I'd say RG is more powerful than anyone in the world if he can control the media! :heeheehee

Here's another scenario.......it didn't happen.

RG is a kook....but unless there is corroborating evidence, I tend to agree that nothing happened. Don't make baseless accusations without documentation.

CC1 09-17-2012 12:32 PM

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I did a google news search "Richard Gazowsky stabbed" and the only thing that came up was the post on this thread! LOL!!!

If no one called the police and RG did not want to press charges it is possible this could have happened and not made the news.

I have followed RG casually from afar for several decades and am amazed that anybody is still following him. He is an extraordinarily interesting person but in the same sense that you can't look away from a terrible car wreck when passing it.

Praxeas 09-17-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1188770)
I did a google news search "Richard Gazowsky stabbed" and the only thing that came up was the post on this thread! LOL!!!

If no one called the police and RG did not want to press charges it is possible this could have happened and not made the news.

I have followed RG casually from afar for several decades and am amazed that anybody is still following him. He is an extraordinarily interesting person but in the same sense that you can't look away from a terrible car wreck when passing it.

For some people, that's alkl the proof one needs

Timmy 09-17-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1188770)
I did a google news search "Richard Gazowsky stabbed" and the only thing that came up was the post on this thread! LOL!!!

If no one called the police and RG did not want to press charges it is possible this could have happened and not made the news.

I have followed RG casually from afar for several decades and am amazed that anybody is still following him. He is an extraordinarily interesting person but in the same sense that you can't look away from a terrible car wreck when passing it.

Have you seen his blog lately? He had a prophecy about the Batman movie. Quite amusing.

http://wysiwyghome.com/2012/07/27/th...ife/#more-1802

Jay 09-17-2012 06:40 PM

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Not amusing...painful!

CC1 09-17-2012 09:41 PM

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What is kind of strange is that for someone who makes media a priority I cannot find a website for RG's Voice of Pentecost Church in San Francisco.

Timmy 09-18-2012 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1188876)
What is kind of strange is that for someone who makes media a priority I cannot find a website for RG's Voice of Pentecost Church in San Francisco.

Yeah, me neither. Just the wysywyg site. He may think of the church and the "movie" "production" "company" as one and the same. It has some reviews, though:

http://www.yelp.com/biz/voice-of-pen...-san-francisco

And its school:

http://www.greatschools.org/californ...ecost-Academy/

themoneyjoe 09-18-2012 11:46 AM

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Actually I know who had stabbed him, the person was arrested, so the police was called, maybe it was just a low priority and that's why it didn't make the news. Not every single stabbing or attempted murder makes the news. That is my guess. OR maybe RG used a different name because he was so embarrassed about the whole situation and he didn't want to get exposed. This is just a guess on my part. I too at first heard of this story through the grapevine and thought it was fake because I couldn't find one thing on it when I googled it. That's when I contacted a family member of RG that told me the whole story and confirmed it was true. Joe

themoneyjoe 09-18-2012 11:53 AM

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That's because it's no longer a Traditional Church, It is now WYSIWYG film production company, they threw God out and Hollywood in.

themoneyjoe 09-18-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1188876)
What is kind of strange is that for someone who makes media a priority I cannot find a website for RG's Voice of Pentecost Church in San Francisco.


That's because it's no longer a Traditional Church, It is now WYSIWYG film production company, they threw God out and Hollywood in.:girlytantrum

Timmy 09-18-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by themoneyjoe (Post 1188975)
That's because it's no longer a Traditional Church, It is now WYSIWYG film production company, they threw God out and Hollywood in.:girlytantrum

What makes you say they threw God out? He talks about God all the time. God talks to him all the time!

themoneyjoe 09-18-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1188770)
I did a google news search "Richard Gazowsky stabbed" and the only thing that came up was the post on this thread! LOL!!!

If no one called the police and RG did not want to press charges it is possible this could have happened and not made the news.

I have followed RG casually from afar for several decades and am amazed that anybody is still following him. He is an extraordinarily interesting person but in the same sense that you can't look away from a terrible car wreck when passing it.


Actually I know who had stabbed him, the person was arrested, so the police was called, maybe it was just a low priority and that's why it didn't make the news. Not every single stabbing or attempted murder makes the news. That is my guess. OR maybe RG used a different name because he was so embarrassed about the whole situation and he didn't want to get exposed. This is just a guess on my part. I too at first heard of this story through the grapevine and thought it was fake because I couldn't find one thing on it when I googled it. That's when I contacted a family member of RG that told me the whole story and confirmed it was true. :girlytantrum

themoneyjoe 09-18-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1188976)
What makes you say they threw God out? He talks about God all the time. God talks to him all the time!

He talks about God yes, but which God he constantly has promoted his own agenda and if you watched the movie Audience of One, it clearly shows how off the deep end he really is, I know members who still attend there and others who have left. Many of them are still wounded and confused today because RG's agenda and false teaching has confused them and hurt them so spiritually.

I went to a service and he took up 4 different offerings pushing his hollywood movie and WYSIWYG film company, he used alot of prosperity scriptures and talked about God's will for the church just so he could manipulate the congregation and line his pockets. I am just calling it as I see it having been there and seeing this kind of stuff for years. :thumbsup

themoneyjoe 09-18-2012 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 1188761)
Wow, he must be more powerful than the Royal Family....they couldn't keep topless pictures out of the media.......nor could Tiger Woods keep his personal issues out of the media.......I'd say RG is more powerful than anyone in the world if he can control the media! :heeheehee

Here's another scenario.......it didn't happen.


Oh it happened got it straight from another Gazowsky that had left the church along time ago but is still a close family member. They confirmed the whole story, I can't say who the stabber was but I do infact know them personally.

Timmy 09-18-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by themoneyjoe (Post 1188978)
He talks about God yes, but which God he constantly has promoted his own agenda and if you watched the movie Audience of One, it clearly shows how off the deep end he really is, I know members who still attend there and others who have left. Many of them are still wounded and confused today because RG's agenda and false teaching has confused them and hurt them so spiritually.

I went to a service and he took up 4 different offerings pushing his hollywood movie and WYSIWYG film company, he used alot of prosperity scriptures and talked about God's will for the church just so he could manipulate the congregation and line his pockets. I am just calling it as I see it having been there and seeing this kind of stuff for years. :thumbsup

Do people's claims about God, such as what He tells them to do, have to make sense to you, before you will believe they are true?

Praxeas 09-18-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1188876)
What is kind of strange is that for someone who makes media a priority I cannot find a website for RG's Voice of Pentecost Church in San Francisco.

There hasn't been one that I know of for years. It's all about WYSIWYG

Praxeas 09-18-2012 01:31 PM

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All WYSIWYG is a Blog for RG

mad4chocolate 01-14-2013 03:35 PM

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I attended VOP in the early 1970’s – about 8 years. Strong music program, revival atmosphere.Many outreach programs, vibrant youth group – several choirs. Winning others to Jesus was focal point of church. Extremely charasmatic pastor. RG - her son - was a musically talented teenager – sang with his family – drove Sunday School buses. Limited education – friendly - energetic - dreamer. No job skills. Has been exclusively "employed" by VOP entire life & eventually inherited the church. Music programs, outreach programs, salvation message - all discarded. Church group - in it's original form - hasn't existed for years. Great loss to the community.

houston 01-14-2013 05:25 PM

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Did you join just to post that ........?

CC1 01-14-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1214097)
Did you join just to post that ........?

If they did that is fine with me. I always like to hear from people who were actually attached to a situation.

What they posted matches what I have been told over the years by people who had connections with that church.

Monterrey 01-14-2013 08:19 PM

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Good old Richard!

Ha!

Monterrey 01-14-2013 08:20 PM

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Reading the first again, loved the dejavu!

themoneyjoe 03-26-2016 09:31 PM

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Just found out that the Voice of Pentecost, AKA WYSIWYG Productions lead by Richard Gazowsky, They are bankrupt and the VOP building was Foreclosed on due to UN-Paid Mortgage and the city of SF suing Richard and WYSIWYG Film Production company. In-spite of the sale and loss of the VOP Richard claims that they will not move out of the building and that it is the Will of GOD that they continue to stay there and follow the dream of making the movie that God told him to make since 2007 mentioned in the Film Documentary the Audience of One.

He has completely lost his mind, he has no intention of leaving even though he has defaulted on the mortgage and owes the city of SF over one million dollars in past due bills, fines and fees. The man is a joke and very delusional at best! See Article below::heeheehee
:smack

http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/a...se-6832369.php

Evang.Benincasa 03-26-2016 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by themoneyjoe (Post 1427514)
Just found out that the Voice of Pentecost, AKA WYSIWYG Productions lead by Richard Gazowsky, They are bankrupt and the VOP building was Foreclosed on due to UN-Paid Mortgage and the city of SF suing Richard and WYSIWYG Film Production company. In-spite of the sale and loss of the VOP Richard claims that they will not move out of the building and that it is the Will of GOD that they continue to stay there and follow the dream of making the movie that God told him to make since 2007 mentioned in the Film Documentary the Audience of One.

He has completely lost his mind, he has no intention of leaving even though he has defaulted on the mortgage and owes the city of SF over one million dollars in past due bills, fines and fees. The man is a joke and very delusional at best! See Article below::heeheehee
:smack

http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/a...se-6832369.php

Give this a try....

Love your enemies?

I forgot who Richard Gazowsky was until his mom passed away. But when I see people crying and complaining about ministries they were hurt by, all I can say is, that I have my wounds. I just stopped trying to find people to lick them. Move on, live life, show people how YOU are not like these people and forgive them. Getting bitter just makes you want to vote for Trump. You don't want that to happen to you? RIGHT?

CC1 03-26-2016 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by themoneyjoe (Post 1427514)
Just found out that the Voice of Pentecost, AKA WYSIWYG Productions lead by Richard Gazowsky, They are bankrupt and the VOP building was Foreclosed on due to UN-Paid Mortgage and the city of SF suing Richard and WYSIWYG Film Production company. In-spite of the sale and loss of the VOP Richard claims that they will not move out of the building and that it is the Will of GOD that they continue to stay there and follow the dream of making the movie that God told him to make since 2007 mentioned in the Film Documentary the Audience of One.

He has completely lost his mind, he has no intention of leaving even though he has defaulted on the mortgage and owes the city of SF over one million dollars in past due bills, fines and fees. The man is a joke and very delusional at best! See Article below::heeheehee
:smack

http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/a...se-6832369.php

This is a very sad situation for both the people that consider themselves part of VOP and for the bad light evangelical Spirit filled Christians will once again be put in by some nut job preacher.

As long as Richard could pay his bills and find people to keep following him he was just another eccentric man in the Pentecostal / Charismatic movement whose antics caused many of us to shake our heads in wonder.

However if this report is true he has crossed that line from eccentric to unstable and causing harm to the body of Christ through these actions.

I pray that sanity will prevail and that RG has some sane men of God to give him counsel not to go down the path of occupying a church he is not paying for and in default for.

shazeep 03-27-2016 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1427525)
Give this a try....

Love your enemies?

I forgot who Richard Gazowsky was until his mom passed away. But when I see people crying and complaining about ministries they were hurt by, all I can say is, that I have my wounds. I just stopped trying to find people to lick them. Move on, live life, show people how YOU are not like these people and forgive them. Getting bitter just makes you want to vote for Trump. You don't want that to happen to you? RIGHT?

:lol amen


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