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Thank you

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Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

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I guess I asked ,because I struggle with Standards [ dress standards ] or how people use them to mesure how spiritual somone is or even if they are saved.I have seen so many people leave because they were told they were going to hell for wearing pants . Thheese were new people in the church people that I wittnessed to and brought to church seen them Baptized and recieve the Holy Ghost. To tell you the truth it is part of the reason I do not wittness to people and bring them to church now.

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In my opinion you should never stop witnessing to people and telling them about the love of Jesus but I do understand where you are coming from. I have no problem with people who uphold the standards that they believe are important for them and their salvation. My problem is with people who push their standards on others and seem to think that those who don't do as they do are sinful or have zero standards.
I attend a UPC church and love my church. I have a wonderful Pastor and I respect him greatly. I believe we should all uphold modesty but I don't think we should tell someone they can’t be used in our church until they do this and that (those things being outward standards set by man). We look at someone who receives the wonderful salvation of God and then expect them to change by some point and if not we say they dont have it fully and until they conform they can’t be used.
My problem isn’t with having a different standard my problem is with making it a heaven/hell issue and making people feel as though they dont have the HG or aren’t saved because they dont feel convicted to do what you tell them they should be convicted about..

Sorry went on a rant..

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Well, I don't suppose my post was helpful. Sorry about that.

If you don't mind my asking, why do you attend a church that you aren't comfortable inviting people to?

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That is it exactly. and I do witness about Jesus and how good he is .It is killing me inside because I am evangalistic by nature and want people to go to heaven.

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That's a problem with bringing folks to church and not to Jesus. Our churches offer rules and measurements but Jesus offers love, acceptance, and forgiveness.

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No Timmy, that's not it I know you aren't being judgemental.

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So true, but how does one seperate the Church from Jesus. Or Jesus from the Church ?

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Be back soon .