Re: Finally, Oneness-Trinity debate is settled!
 

Maybe someone should perform mouth to mouth resuscitation on the Holy Ghost.
:nod

Re: Finally, Oneness-Trinity debate is settled!
 

funny, now that you all know that I am right about the trinity is there anything else that you want to admit that you are wrong about. :happydance
:heeheehee

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True... then think of the angelic hosts. Innumerable. No matter how one looks at it... the majority of Heaven's population never lived and breathed on earth. Who is man that the God of Heaven is even mindful of him?

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And if M the D is right, there will be, like, four qualified, perfect Christians that make it. :heeheehee

Re: Finally, Oneness-Trinity debate is settled!
 

M the D?

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Michael the Disciple. He's perfect. Never sins. Nobody that sins will make it. :winkgrin

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ah, well I agree with M the D. What is sin, tho? Who defines that? A judge, right? I only have One. Christ has freed me from that.

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Not sure you're quite getting it. MtheD (if I understand him right) means you actually have to NEVER SIN. Not just that imputed righteousness stuff, no: you have to BE PERFECT.

Or do you mean that Christ, your judge, actually thinks everything you do is hunky dorey, no matter what it is? Lie? Kill? Commit adultery? No problem?

(But I probably am not understanding exactly what you mean by "has freed me from that". ;))

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Well...forgiven is what you are; and therefore how you should live? And manifest is what you do. Really an awesome responsibility.

Yes, and you are free to manifest whatever you want; it is going to come right back to you anyway. You are your fruit.

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"Grace, indicates the unmerited favor or help of God. One writer defined grace as “God giving us what (blessings) we don’t deserve.” The Apostle Peter said to grow “in” grace, and the Greek word used there could be translated for/because of; in other words we grow because of grace. Grace is the fertilizer that causes us to grow as we learn of Christ and provides protection WHILE we grow. Grace is not a license to sin; rather, it makes sin detestable to us. Grace replaces a list of rules to be studied and obeyed, with a lifestyle that is lived. (Heb. 8:10, 10:16) Holiness is the result of grace, while self-righteousness/condemnation is the outcome of legalism. When we understand grace, it lifts up Jesus Christ and draws others to HIM, self-righteousness and condemnation pushes people away." ty bishoph