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Rick Joyner says that in his church they drink and smoke cigars?

Play carnal games win carnal prizes?

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Yep, Rick Joyner knew what Chris was doing with the woman before, Rick Joyner made Chris the Bishop. Have a cigar. :)

JUSTIN PERRY PUBLIC RESPONSE | Julie Roys Article: MorningStar Ministries & Chris Reed Resignation

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUTnpHtjuQ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUTnpHtjuQ0

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Chris has a school of the prophets? It costs $2,600 to learn how to tell people their addresses, and ask them the first letter of a relatives' name?


www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0GgjC6JfCA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0GgjC6JfCA

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Do you remember when . . .

18] And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,
[19] Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.
[20] But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.

Chris Reed says “Hey Simon, I’ll take your money”!

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Okay. Concerning the Apostolic/Pentecostal churches in relation to my earlier post about the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is in my opinion, screening out (albeit unintentionally) wholesome, sincere candidates for their priesthood. Meanwhile attracting the gay and pedophile flavor. What about us?

I’m concerned that we are screening out sincere candidates for the ministry while attracting those who are entirely willing to twist scripture and otherwise lie for money. When you think about the entire financial structure of the UPCI being dependent upon the lie of the tithe doctrine it begs the question.

If they will lie about money, what else will they lie about?
Possibly being faithful to their wife?
Maybe having a word from God for you?

If you have a person who is ethically challenged in the area of finance, where does it end? Maybe it crosses over to other issues.

Maybe we are unintentionally screening for morally and ethically compromised people in the ministry. And maybe we are losing respect for the ministry (another thread, I know) as a result of the ministry being less respectable.

To quote a preacher (I’ve actually heard it from multiple preachers) “if you can’t trust me with your money, why would you trust me with your soul”?

To which I would reply, “ If I can’t trust you to be truthful about money, I will surely NOT trust you with my soul “.

I will “work out my own salvation with fear and trembling” like the scripture admonishes me to do.

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I don't care WHO you are, I don't trust you with my soul. I trust Jesus, and I trust His apostles to correctly convey what He said. Everybody else is a "fellow on the same ship" I am on, not the pilot or the captain.

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:thumbsup:highfive

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:highfive

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Ouch! :ouch

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So, is that what you tell the people in your congregation about you being a pastor/elder or whatever position you hold in the assembly?