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MawMaw 04-13-2020 08:23 PM

Re: Tony Spell has church in spite of the ban
 
Today, President Trump hinted at May 1st for the time frame of putting most
states back to work. We may be able to go back to our houses of
worship soon!

Esaias 04-13-2020 08:41 PM

Re: Tony Spell has church in spite of the ban
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MawMaw (Post 1585963)
Today, President Trump hinted at May 1st for the time frame of putting most
states back to work. We may be able to go back to our houses of
worship soon!

2 weeks. April 1st. Easter/April 15.

Now May 1st.

MawMaw 04-13-2020 08:52 PM

Re: Tony Spell has church in spite of the ban
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1585964)
2 weeks. April 1st. Easter/April 15.

Now May 1st.

We shall see. He said he would be making an announcement
in a few days. Praying for him and that he makes the right
decision for our country.

coksiw 04-13-2020 10:09 PM

Re: Tony Spell has church in spite of the ban
 
They are starting to ease lockdown recommendations from the WH in certain regions. It doesn't mean the states and the cities will be following them, anyways.

Esaias 04-13-2020 11:29 PM

Re: Tony Spell has church in spite of the ban
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coksiw (Post 1585967)
They are starting to ease lockdown recommendations from the WH in certain regions. It doesn't mean the states and the cities will be following them, anyways.

The President just recently declared all 50 states are under a national emergency. So "easing restrictions" is no longer a state issue, but a Federal Emergency Management issue.

The lockdown will (eventually) be lifted - but there will be a price to pay. Moat likely you will be required to submit to a completely phony test and if you are allowed to be negative you will be given paperwork to show you have permission to leave your house. That peperwork will - ACCORDING TO THEM - likely be transitioned to a permanent digital ID (ID2020) showing your status. You will be squeezed out of society and starved to death or sent to a FEMA camp if you don't take the vaccine that they will be rolling out.

Normalcy bias is a real thing, and very dangerous to health and welfare.

TakingDominion 04-13-2020 11:59 PM

Re: Tony Spell has church in spite of the ban
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1585969)
The President just recently declared all 50 states are under a national emergency. So "easing restrictions" is no longer a state issue, but a Federal Emergency Management issue.

The lockdown will (eventually) be lifted - but there will be a price to pay. Moat likely you will be required to submit to a completely phony test and if you are allowed to be negative you will be given paperwork to show you have permission to leave your house. That peperwork will - ACCORDING TO THEM - likely be transitioned to a permanent digital ID (ID2020) showing your status. You will be squeezed out of society and starved to death or sent to a FEMA camp if you don't take the vaccine that they will be rolling out.

Normalcy bias is a real thing, and very dangerous to health and welfare.

I don't believe any of that will happen. I'm not taking any test. I won't accept a vaccine. I definitely won't be wearing any digital id. Will you be posting a retraction or apology when none of these doomsday scenarios come to pass?

Esaias 04-14-2020 12:33 AM

Re: Tony Spell has church in spite of the ban
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TakingDominion (Post 1585971)
I don't believe any of that will happen. I'm not taking any test. I won't accept a vaccine. I definitely won't be wearing any digital id. Will you be posting a retraction or apology when none of these doomsday scenarios come to pass?

A retraction? Did I say THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN? Or did I say "most likely"? And why is it that the WHO, CDC, Bill Gates, and even the Governor of Texas are repeating my crazy tin foil hat conspuracy theories? Could it be because all I've been doing is taking what THEY SAY as indicators of THEIR PLANS?

You don't believe testing for coronavirus won't be a part of the requirements for de-quarantining? The governor of Texas just said that's going to be a part of the lifting of the lockdown. If it doesn't happen it won't mean MY "scenario" didn't come to pass. It would mean THEIR SCENARIO THAT THEY CLAIM THEY WANT didn't come to pass.

Doomsday scenarios? Are you paying attention to what the GOVERNMENT ITSELF HAS BEEN TELLING YOU?

TakingDominion 04-14-2020 01:38 AM

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Here's a direct quote from one of your posts in another thread.....

This is where America is. A literal communist dictatorship. Using a bogus viral (non)pandemic as the excuse to enslave everybody. It's already happened.


I want to point out, I didn't say anything about tin foil hats or conspiracy theories.

I just don't think any of that is in the realm of possibility. When they(the gubment) mention testing as being important to dequarantining, it is in reference to increased testing of people that have symptoms. Not testing every Tom, Dick or Harry sitting at home eating cheetos.

I've heard about these immunity tests that have been proposed. Everything I've heard is that they won't be used because they're not accurate enough.

Yes, some governors have overreached their authority and ticketed churches for drive in services. This is already being corrected in places like Louisville where a federal judge has ruled in favor of churches. Also, after talking this week to various pastors around the country, I believe the majority of states are allowing drive in services to continue. While I disagree with their methods,I believe these state and local authorities that are overreaching are doing it with the intention of stopping the spread. Not as a small part of a much larger operation to rob Americans of their rights and freedom.

Yes there is a virus.
Yes it seems to be sickening and even killing people, though not at a rate that would justify these radical lockdown measures.
Yes the government seems to be inflating these numbers somewhat (when do they not).
Yes, politicians are going to use this crisis to push their agendas, though not by turning America into the People's Republic of China.
Yes, there will eventually be a vaccine. Though it will be voluntary just like EVERY OTHER VACCINE.
Yes, Bill Gates is a weird dude with more money than God.
Yes, some officials at the CDC and WHO have suggested even more drastic measures. I don't believe the more drastic measures such as house to house seizures will ever be implemented.
Yes God is in control.
Yes I trust Him.

james34 04-14-2020 06:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TakingDominion (Post 1585980)
Here's a direct quote from one of your posts in another thread.....

This is where America is. A literal communist dictatorship. Using a bogus viral (non)pandemic as the excuse to enslave everybody. It's already happened.


I want to point out, I didn't say anything about tin foil hats or conspiracy theories.

I just don't think any of that is in the realm of possibility. When they(the gubment) mention testing as being important to dequarantining, it is in reference to increased testing of people that have symptoms. Not testing every Tom, Dick or Harry sitting at home eating cheetos.

I've heard about these immunity tests that have been proposed. Everything I've heard is that they won't be used because they're not accurate enough.

Yes, some governors have overreached their authority and ticketed churches for drive in services. This is already being corrected in places like Louisville where a federal judge has ruled in favor of churches. Also, after talking this week to various pastors around the country, I believe the majority of states are allowing drive in services to continue. While I disagree with their methods,I believe these state and local authorities that are overreaching are doing it with the intention of stopping the spread. Not as a small part of a much larger operation to rob Americans of their rights and freedom.

Yes there is a virus.
Yes it seems to be sickening and even killing people, though not at a rate that would justify these radical lockdown measures.
Yes the government seems to be inflating these numbers somewhat (when do they not).
Yes, politicians are going to use this crisis to push their agendas, though not by turning America into the People's Republic of China.
Yes, there will eventually be a vaccine. Though it will be voluntary just like EVERY OTHER VACCINE.
Yes, Bill Gates is a weird dude with more money than God.
Yes, some officials at the CDC and WHO have suggested even more drastic measures. I don't believe the more drastic measures such as house to house seizures will ever be implemented.
Yes God is in control.
Yes I trust Him.

To realise all of these things and not be skeptical of the Governments plans, is the very definition of drinking the Kool-aid. Here is what does not make sense, is to trust a government and their propaganda tool(the media) and then look at those who dont and wonder why they cant come to the supposed rational conclusion as the Kool-aid drinkers.
They keep saying,"this isnt some doomsday scenario that is playing out. What is a doomsday scenario and where do these ideas come from?.....Oh wait they are biblical, these things are foretold , we are told to watch and pray......but I suppose it's more comfortable to reject that things could be this bad. Does America have God on her side, have we done anything to offend.
The bible says if we sin willfully after the k knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for our sins. But a certain looking for of fiery judgment and indignation which shall devour the adversaries.........I think right before this it said something about not forsaking the assembling of yourselves together.
Well has USA offended?...the wicked shall be turned into hell and any nation that forgets God......Remember as you said,"God is in control".
So given the present spiritual situation of the US, why should we expect anything less than chastisement and judgement?

TakingDominion 04-14-2020 06:51 AM

Re: Tony Spell has church in spite of the ban
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james34 (Post 1585983)
To realise all of these things and not be skeptical of the Governments plans, is the very definition of drinking the Kool-aid. Here is what does not make sense, is to trust a government and their propaganda tool(the media) and then look at those who dont and wonder why they cant come to the supposed rational conclusion as the Kool-aid drinkers.
They keep saying,"this isnt some doomsday scenario that is playing out. What is a doomsday scenario and where do these ideas come from?.....Oh wait they are biblical, these things are foretold , we are told to watch and pray......but I suppose it's more comfortable to reject that things could be this bad. Does America have God on her side, have we done anything to offend.
The bible says if we sin willfully after the k knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for our sins. But a certain looking for of fiery judgment and indignation which shall devour the adversaries.........I think right before this it said something about not forsaking the assembling of yourselves together.
Well has USA offended?...the wicked shall be turned into hell and any nation that forgets God......Remember as you said,"God is in control".
So given the present spiritual situation of the US, why should we expect anything less than chastisement and judgement?

Kool aid is delicious. Will you post an apology if none of this happens?


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