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Jermyn Davidson 10-10-2008 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 607031)
? how so? i heard his comments, there was nothing in what he said that suggested the police were going to somehow use their position to harm those that voted for Obama.

All he did was introduce Palin.


Im not following your logic here....


Did you feel strongly about the group of law inforcement officials in Missouri who have said they would procecute anyone running an ad on TV that wasnt "truthful"?

by the way that group of law enforcment officials goes by the name Obama supporters for Truth or some such.


My understanding of all the flack is that he was at this rally, speaking in an official capacity as the Sheriff of Lee County, FL, in uniform.

That IS against the law and is the reason for the investigation.

The use of "Hussein" in this country conjures up very negative images. So whenever anyone uses his name, MOST OF THE TIME, they are using that name to inspire the negativity associated with it.

So that was the icing on the cake for this Sheriff. But where he messed up is appearing at a political rally, in uniform, in an official capacity as the Sheriff.

This is clearly unethical.

Jermyn Davidson 10-10-2008 06:09 PM

Re: ***Its a CRIME to say HUSSEIN!****
 
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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 607012)
Hatch Act

Permitted Activities
Covered state and local employees may-

run for public office in nonpartisan elections
campaign for and hold office in political clubs and organizations
actively campaign for candidates for public office in partisan and nonpartisan elections
contribute money to political organizations and attend political fundraising functions



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Prohibited Activities

Covered state and local employees may not-

be candidates for public office in a partisan election
use official authority or influence to interfere with or affect the results of an election or nomination
directly or indirectly coerce contributions from subordinates in support of a political party or candidate


Looks like there's not a problem at all with him introducing McCain. The complaints are that he said "On November 4, let's leave Barack Hussein Obama wondering what happened"


This is where that Sheriff messed up. In an official capacity, introduced as the Sheriff, spoke as the Sheriff, while in uniform-- maybe he was even on the clock.

UNETHICAL!

jezebelslayer 10-11-2008 02:10 PM

Re: ***Its a CRIME to say HUSSEIN!****
 
Did someone ask this sheriff to do the introduction or did he just run up on the platform and do the intro? Just curious:crazy

Jermyn Davidson 10-11-2008 11:59 PM

Re: ***Its a CRIME to say HUSSEIN!****
 
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Originally Posted by jezebelslayer (Post 607590)
Did someone ask this sheriff to do the introduction or did he just run up on the platform and do the intro? Just curious:crazy

Would it matter if he was asked to or not?

jaxfam6 10-12-2008 10:08 AM

Re: ***Its a CRIME to say HUSSAIN!****
 
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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 606979)
Sheriff's comment scorches phone lines

Originally posted on: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 by NBC2 News
Last updated on: 10/7/2008 7:08:37 PM

FORT MYERS: The phone lines lit up at the Lee County Sheriff's Office this morning after Sheriff Mike Scott's comments at the Sarah Palin rally Monday.

In urging voters to choose John McCain in the November election, Scott used Barack Obama's middle name - "Hussein."

Both the Obama and McCain campaign's immediately criticized the statement. McCain's camp said it distracted from their message, while Obama's office said Scott was trying to stoke the fires of a whisper campaign claiming Obama is a Muslim, which is not true.

This is what gets me. If it isn't true why do they really care?

They make to much out of it and to me it is SCREAMING that he is and they want to try to cover it up.

Me thinks they protest to much.

SOUNWORTHY 10-12-2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxfam6 (Post 608138)
This is what gets me. If it isn't true why do they really care?

They make to much out of it and to me it is SCREAMING that he is and they want to try to cover it up.

Me thinks they protest to much.

Isn't it human nature to get vocal and object when we are guilty of something and are trying to hide it. If we are innocent we just kinda shrug it off.:)

MikeinAR 10-12-2008 11:51 AM

Re: ***Its a CRIME to say HUSSEIN!****
 
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Originally Posted by jaxfam6 (Post 608138)
This is what gets me. If it isn't true why do they really care?

They make to much out of it and to me it is SCREAMING that he is and they want to try to cover it up.

Me thinks they protest to much.

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Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY (Post 608162)
Isn't it human nature to get vocal and object when we are guilty of something and are trying to hide it. If we are innocent we just kinda shrug it off.:)

There you two go again. :crazy

SOUNWORTHY 10-12-2008 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeinAR (Post 608167)
There you two go again. :crazy

At least we're going in the same direction and that's the right direction. It's just a matter of two great minds agreeing.:tease

George 10-12-2008 03:08 PM

Re: ***Its a CRIME to say HUSSEIN!****
 
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Originally Posted by Tarp80 (Post 607043)
It is evident why, most American lack an understanding behind the meaning of Arabic names. So, when the name "Hussein" is used the immediate association is that of negativity. How many of us ever take the time to understand Islamic tradition? I can asure you not many. If we had, we would learn that "Hussein's" (hu-sein) pronounced, hoo-SAYN. Arabic origins translates in english to "good, small handsome one". Not that scary when knowledge is injected in place of bigotry.

You bring about a good point how Arabic names are seen in a negative light. This, unfortunately, came about because of 9/11. There are many Arabs in our country who are kind, nice people. People should also realize an Arabic name does not make the person Islamic/Muslim. In fact, there are Pentecostal Arabs! .

I will add, however, because of Obama's friendships with known Arabic terrorists, his Arabic name has caused a greater concern among some people.

Jermyn Davidson 10-12-2008 06:01 PM

Re: ***Its a CRIME to say HUSSEIN!****
 
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Originally Posted by George (Post 608212)
I will add, however, because of Obama's friendships with known Arabic terrorists, his Arabic name has caused a greater concern among some people.


Do you have any documentation to back up this claim?



If he was friends with Arabic terrorists, it has never made the news in the Washington. DC area.

I guess the FBI and the CIA are just going to keep this information under wraps. Don't forget the Pentagon, they're in on the "secret" too.


THIS IS A LIE!


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