Re: Shouting at NAYC
 

Exactly! It is pure sensationalism. My goodness. It totally breaks my heart! And now how many churches are going to, which already do so, put a larger measuring stick on your personal walk with God on how loud you are in a service. It's already happening.

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Always some new gimmick with this guy.

The guys drilling to hell wasn't enough.

There was also the laying on of split ends and the holy magic hair doctrine.

What else?

Osama Bib Laden's wives waxed glossolalic.

I can't believe this guy still draws a crowd.

Re: Shouting at NAYC
 

Some people love and enjoy hearing him preach. :)

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funny... new gimmick...

sorry that aint new.

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He can claim that he was abducted by aliens and converted them... and people would PTL and roll on the floor.

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But the conversion would still be that they went down in the water in Jesus name and when they came up they were SPEAKING IN OTHER TONGUES!

Wow, I felt a shout coming on just typing that while in my head hearing Brother Stonking saying those words!

PLEASE CLAP AS YOU ARE SEATED! :happydance

Re: Shouting at NAYC
 

I said this on the other thread about this blog - he's a self admitted "post modern". The name of his blog is designed to draw younger apostolics in so he can feed them poison.

Shouting is Biblical.

Stoneking is... not my cup of tea.

Next?

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I think he was referring to the context in which the message regarding shouting was delivered as being the gimmick. Focusing on the "decibel level" and going into what science says on the subject seems like the gimmick.

It places the focus on us and not the power of the Holy Ghost. It's the same situation as the magic hair, IMO.

The bottom line - everything is about our faith in Jesus Christ. We don't need to go into areas of "witches use their hair" or "scientific evidence shows", etc.

Tell me about Jesus Christ and the power of the Holy Ghost. Don't come at me with scientific evidence that if I lift my voice to a certain degree, I can war with the prince of the power of the air. Because, it is not me - I can do all things "THROUGH CHRIST" who gives me strength.

Shout all you want, but let if be because of your faith and not because you understand something about decibel levels.

Let's keep our focus vertically and not horizontally.

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God commanded the Israelites to shout and battles were won. There's Biblical principle in this, not just scientific evidence. The reason I posted about the scientific proof is because people were questioning whether it was true. Like it or not, God has used various means through which to show His power and might, including the command to shout.

As to Stoneking, watch the video. He stated: "God spoke to me just about 30 minutes ago and told me that if you would do a certain thing, that He would totally deliver you from all fear and inhibitions." He then gave reference to the Old Testament, when God commanded His people to shout. After this, he related the information about sound waves, "shredding" the air, etc.

If you have issue with this, then you have issue with God's commands to the children of Israel in the Old Testament.

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"I'm not sure I understand this...What is it about shouting that would cause such a tremendous manifestation of power?"

I understand it. It is "FAITH". God parted the Red Sea, and He made the walls of Jericho fall.

He would have done well enough to stop with scriptures.