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Scott Hutchinson 07-08-2008 12:11 PM
Re: Is Water Baptism Necessary For Salvation?
 
MARK 16:16,17 is scripture and we can't chunk em,however a if a person has true faith I believe they will express it by being buried with Christ in baptism.

BrotherEastman 07-08-2008 12:29 PM
Re: Is Water Baptism Necessary For Salvation?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AbundantGrace (Post 520653)
Simply put, if a person receives Christ, repents and is filled with the Holy Spirit on a Sunday evening and decides to wait until Wednesday evening to be baptized for whatever reason, yet dies on Monday evening, without be water baptized, is he/she saved or lost and why?
I guess the real question should be: Is obedience to God's word necessary?

Steve Epley 07-08-2008 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 521699)
I guess the real question should be: Is obedience to God's word necessary?
Absolutely NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anything done or not done is works. Salvation is of the Lord we do nothing. Jesus did it all we add nothing or cooperate in nothing.

BrotherEastman 07-08-2008 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 521735)
Absolutely NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anything done or not done is works. Salvation is of the Lord we do nothing. Jesus did it all we add nothing or cooperate in nothing.
LOL! Didn't I tell you to Stop it!?;)

Steve Epley 07-08-2008 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 521744)
LOL! Didn't I tell you to Stop it!?;)
This places me in a quandry if I stop it is works and if I continue it is works. Woe is me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Salvation is of the Lord.

DividedThigh 07-08-2008 01:19 PM
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course it is, in light of your question about dying on mon, that is up to god, he knows our hearts and will judge us accordingly, dt

Ferd 07-08-2008 01:23 PM
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Baptism is only required if you are on fire and have not repented yet....


or some such.

Aquila 07-08-2008 01:24 PM
Re: Is Water Baptism Necessary For Salvation?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew (Post 521413)
Ever hear of bath tubs?? Kids Plastic swimming pools??

IF I was taught that baptism was necessary for salvation, I would not leave until I was baptized. And the lady we baptized in the bath tub was just that way. She would not leave until she was baptized in Jesus name, cause she saw it.


Just as with Phillip and the Eunuch, I believe God will always provide water in some shape or form.
I too have seen people told to wait because the baptismal was unprepared or because the pastor was out of town. I've also seen minors told to remain unbaptized until the church could get parental permission from parents who were not attending church prior to baptism. I've seen baptism refused until the person has a bible study so they know what they are taking part in.

We have plenty of people who believe it's essential to be water baptize who stall baptism for one reason or another.

Aquila 07-08-2008 01:30 PM
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Here's a question I've always had...

If a person's sins are not forgiven until water baptism...how did they receive the Holy Ghost prior to water baptism? Will God fill an unforgiven temple with His Holy Ghost?

Rico 07-08-2008 01:31 PM
Re: Is Water Baptism Necessary For Salvation?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 521783)
I too have seen people told to wait because the baptismal was unprepared or because the pastor was out of town. I've also seen minors told to remain unbaptized until the church could get parental permission from parents who were not attending church prior to baptism. I've seen baptism refused until the person has a bible study so they know what they are taking part in.

We have plenty of people who believe it's essential to be water baptize who stall baptism for one reason or another.
Regarding parental permission: I think it's a very good idea. We live in a sue happy society. People are looking for any way they can make some money. Churches are as big a target as any other institution in the USA.


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