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Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?

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Originally Posted by keith4him (Post 574294)

Sounds good to me, how would think his statement of faith to be problematic?

I Didn't point it out as "Problematic", The wording is that of a one-stepper. Even those that are of the same persausion agree. I would venture to say that most would be interested in knowning exactly
where he stands.

......And not neccessarily just for the sake of arguing the differences in Doctrine.

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?

This is off somewhat off subject, but did anybody notice the video gallery on Suber's church site? I thought it was really interesting that all three were of other churches. The Rock in Sacramento, CA, IBC in Indianapolis, IN, and Mark Condon's in Columbus, OH.

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?

George,

Perhaps this church does not have a video ministry yet?

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?

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Originally Posted by George (Post 574325)

Actually the truth of the matter was I brought this up to JS 4 weeks ago while fellowshipping with he and Steph in our hotel room while there preaching for him...

His exact words were, "I didn't know that site was still public. That whole website was just a trial run put together by a guy just showing me what he could do. We are not even going to use that domain name. I didn't know he went public with it for more than just a week."

To that I responded, "You really should get that guy to pull the site."

To that he responded, "I will, but we don't advertise that site anyway...when we get our real site we will obviously need to link that domain name to our real one."

This is clearly why you don't see anything on the calender of events on the site, why rock church is on the video page, and why there has been NO UPDATE to this site in 6 months....if you don't believe me just look at the "pastor's blog" link under the "pastoral leadership" link.

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?

The pastor's blog made more sense than some I have read!

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?

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Originally Posted by tv1a (Post 574176)

What a salvo!!!!

Although gr pretty well lost me about halfway through his statement of faith. I have to give the devil his due. At the end of all that mess he has a link to get you to convert to messianic judiasm.

Reckhart is nowhere near Messianic Judaism!

He also has a few good points and many uhhh let's just say bad points! hehehehe

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 574499)

The pastor's blog made more sense than some I have read!

LOL!!!

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?

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Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 574173)

Ok, let's pretend this is fair. I'm a single mom with 4 kids. Going to church at all is a nightmare. I'm also desperate to be fed while at church. Ok. That's two strikes against visiting church after church just to find one that has a doctrine I can agree with.

FWIW, I'm not a church hopper. I don't post about the reason I left the church I did, because it doesn't really matter. Some people here go to churches like that and they're happy, some like me, have left churches like that because they weren't going to be ok there.

I did finally find a church, online, and moved 2000 miles to attend it. Crazy, I know, but I wouldn't change it for anything.

A website reaching the unsaved is an interesting idea. I'm not so sure it'd work very well, but it's interesting all the same. You do realize that the doctrinal statement is usually hidden pretty well on most church sites, right? And, you do realize that most people looking at a church website didn't stumble on it, they're looking for it, and the sort of people who are looking for a church online are probably going to be the people to whom a doctrinal statement does matter.

Or move 2000 miles to attend the church... But that wasn't anything about the church website, it was about the people in the church who I met and got to know.

Wow, I am sure you have your reasons. But to uproot 4 children and taking them 2000 miles away just to change churches? :dunno

Seems a bit extreme imo.

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?

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Originally Posted by BoJangles (Post 574532)

Wow, I am sure you have your reasons. But to uproot 4 children and taking them 2000 miles away just to change churches? :dunno

Seems a bit extreme imo.

MOving 2000 miles to get fed tells me they are very picky eaters and will not be satisfied with the meals served where they move. The probelm is the eater I say not the meal. 2,000 miles??????????????????????

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?

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Originally Posted by BoJangles (Post 574532)

Wow, I am sure you have your reasons. But to uproot 4 children and taking them 2000 miles away just to change churches? :dunno

Seems a bit extreme imo.

:) There were, obviously, more reasons why I moved.

Unfortunately, there weren't many roots where we were. This move is an improvement for us financially as well, and for myself for education and future career options. I have more roots now, 2.5 months after arriving here, than I did after almost 7 years in the area we moved from.