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Praxeas 10-19-2010 03:49 PM

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What Would Coco Say? :spit

coadie 10-19-2010 03:49 PM

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This ruling should be reversed. The judge is outside her jurisdiction.
The congress should step back and let the military make the rule. They are the ones risking lives.

notofworks 10-19-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 974803)
Just as long as they are all clothed though, right?


:lolLike I said, I'm not crazy about being in the buff with anybody.....well, nearly anybody!

Mr. Smith 10-19-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 974806)
This ruling should be reversed. The judge is outside her jurisdiction.
The congress should step back and let the military make the rule. They are the ones risking lives.


Oh great. Here goes the thread.

dizzyde 10-19-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 974800)
I've never understood why it bothers straight people to be around gay people. What's the problem? If you're truly straight, what are you afraid of? Like, are you afraid it's gonna rub off on you or something?

I've known many and it has never "rubbed off" (GROOOOOOSSSSSSSS) on me in the least.

I have never been one to hide my head in the sand over this issue, I think it is HUGE problem in the church, there is just as much of an "don't ask, don't tell" mentality in the church culture as there is in the military. It amazes me that people just want to ignore the elephant in the room.

I am well aware that there are no easy answers on the subject in regards to the church, but I am convinced that the current methods are broken. The way that most churches view it and deal with it doesn't even come close to being appropriate. The whole "they are evil and must be destroyed" mentality makes me sick to my stomach. If you believe it is sin, then that is just it, it is sin. What is your method of dealing with sinners, hopefully compelling them with love? Unless you want to start hating people because they gossip, or lie, or whatever...

In my life, I have never know one person who was gay who choose to be that way. In reality they usually hide it, fight it, try to blend in, deny it... for years. Who would choose something that made them hated, laughed at, picked on, discriminated against?

notofworks 10-19-2010 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzyde (Post 974811)
I've known many and it has never "rubbed off" (GROOOOOOSSSSSSSS) on me in the least.

I have never been one to hide my head in the sand over this issue, I think it is HUGE problem in the church, there is just as much of an "don't ask, don't tell" mentality in the church culture as there is in the military. It amazes me that people just want to ignore the elephant in the room.

I am well aware that there are no easy answers on the subject in regards to the church, but I am convinced that the current methods are broken. The way that most churches view it and deal with it doesn't even come close to being appropriate. The whole "they are evil and must be destroyed" mentality makes me sick to my stomach. If you believe it is sin, then that is just it, it is sin. What is your method of dealing with sinners, hopefully compelling them with love? Unless you want to start hating people because they gossip, or lie, or whatever...

In my life, I have never know one person who was gay who choose to be that way. In reality they usually hide it, fight it, try to blend in, deny it... for years. Who would choose something that made them hated, laughed at, picked on, discriminated against?


You said so many good things in this post, I don't even know where to start. I'll just say, "AMEN." "Don't ask, don't tell" is alive and well in the church, especially in the music department. Just play good stuff, make us dance and run around the church, and keep your private time private!!

Adam 10-19-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 974797)
Marion, IL. Really?

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coadie 10-19-2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 974760)
Sounds very bigoted. Can you give an explanation that goes beyond your "Mentally handicapped" theory?

Not bigoted in any way. it is personal preference. If gays are entitled to personal preference, so are normal people. It is a two way street.

coadie 10-19-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzyde (Post 974785)
There is every possibility that you have served with one or more and never knew it. You seriously think that their sexual orientation would affect their ability to serve? If they made it to a unit, they made it through boot camp...

Do you know that there are people who were decorated officers when they came out and were forced out of the military?

With oodles and gobs of rainbow ribons on their metals?

Adam 10-19-2010 05:50 PM

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notofworks,

Got your PM, but apparently I can't PM you back. Everything's cool, dude. :)

Adam


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