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Prophesy of Pam Bondi means what?

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Brother, could you tell me what did you mean when you mentioned the above?

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Chris Reed:
This was the original Pam Bondi prophecy from November, 2019. All glory to God. It’s Him. Not me. I’m thankful HE gave me the words “AGeneral”, for Attorney General. They call the attorney general the “AG “. As far as I know, she never served in the military or the army, but she’s apart of one now ! In the mouth of 2 or three witnesses let every word be established. Let’s pray this into reality.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1Dj8z9oPmP/

Chris Reed 11/23/2019
Pam Bondi, former attorney general of Florida. You have been chosen prophetically by God to become a great voice for JUSTICE and fairness in America. Your days of serving this great nation are not over. Will you accept ? You will rise higher than ever before to be a voice of reason and a voice for the weak. The scales of justice you hold in your hand. Though despised by many, this will change, and you will fill a role in this nation to BOND A divided nation back together. While protecting the weak and a healing balm to a wounded nation, you will be AGeneral in an army to lead a further exposing of corruption and evil. You will have a chance to shine bright. Don’t miss the time of your opportunity. Prophetic word given to Chris Reed on 11-23-19.

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Gotta be true then. No doubt about it.

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When I was a kid they tried to convince me that Jesus is a republican.

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She will expose corruption and evil?

Maybe the prophecy was God telling Chris that his evil was going to be exposed?

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Sad.

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Gasp! You mean He's not?

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As I already stated, I was wondering if you heard of either one. If you heard of Chris Reed starting another ministry, or if you heard him prophesy about Pam Bondi becoming the AG of America?

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But if you want to discuss his prophecy and how it has come to pass, Im all ears.

Could he have heard this “prophecy” from God? I don’t think this was done as a “gift of perception”, or a “I know your house number”, or “you’re middle name is dean”. He said the name and what she was to become, and she was just confirmed as the AG of America.

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He would’ve been more of a libertarian. :heeheehee

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Bondi will BOND a divided nation? Like Trump was the LAST TRUMPet!?

Throw out some names. Let’s play a game. :lol

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As you said I’m the loudest voice against this joker.
How would you know that if you weren’t following the thread? You would see that I posted about him opening up a soul trap for the weak.

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Chris Reed is a messenger of Satan.

Even a broken clock is right at least once a day

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:thumbsup

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Would Jesus do drugs?


https://youtu.be/27pQkhJBNUc?si=L4offtwgZx_jQiHZ

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Chris Reed being accused of calling his saints and asking for tithes because he Jonesing for drugs?

Who is Joe Sweet of Shekina Worship Center?

They say Chris Reed lies all the time? How can that be?

This life insurance guy is also calling Mr Reed a sexual deviant?

I wonder if Chris Reed ever prophesied that this was going to happen?

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Along the same lines, Mike Winger deep dives into the corruption of the so called current charismatic prophetic movement.

It's heart breaking but needs exposed:

https://youtu.be/GH05S53QlY0?si=MY0MCC6J9Ibq51uV

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Even sadder that these con artist ecclesiastical grifters go back all the way to the early revivalist movement in the United States. The big difference we have now is information on these people. The Internet isn't kind, and there are so many people who are available to expose this. Mike Bickle was always a serpent, and grifter. When the focus is on size of the building and the people stuffed into these buildings becomes the only focus. Then criminology just falls into place. The whole cold reading, warm reading, and hot reading prophetical pathetical is what draws crowds. Mainly because it makes money. Therefore these individuals hone their manipulation to shear the sheep, and lead as many as they can into the nearest ditch. I pray that these people would repent, but since they can't see themselves lifting bags of concrete or pushing a wheelbarrow. Having to start all over with a secular job, for the reason they wouldn't be pulling down the mountains of money as they did when they were bringing in the ecclesiastical sheaves. They refuse to die to their own human will, and repent and receive the Holy Ghost and speak with real honest to goodness tongues. What is really horrible while these jokers get exposed, more will pop up to take their place. People need to fall in love with the Word, and with the Holy Ghost. they need to get a revelation of godly critique when they are dealing with those who claim to be a messenger of light 1 John 4:1-5, 2 Corinthians 11:14.

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This is a mountain of information. Shawn Bolz is the new Peter Popoff :lol

Shawn Bolz was calling out a women's address and the woman's address he came up with was a different woman with the same name on the same street. These jokers are so laughable. :heeheehee

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In these churches everyone is a prophet. If they are all prophets how didn't they know beforehand that Chris Reed had issues? Again, they aren't discerning through the Spirit of God, but the spirit of suspicion. They discerned Chris Reed as being a drug user, from what they saw personally, from hanging out with him. So, no matter what time stamps they have on their cell phones concerning what the Lord said to them about Chris Reed, they already had formed their thoughts on Chris through their experiences with Chris. This is more about a guy not having accountability within a church family. Keep in mind that these people gathered under Chris after he got caught with his girlfriend situation. So, no tears should be shed, because these guys knew what car they were buying. They knew it had a bad transmission, bad charging system, and dirty fuel injectors. Yet, still they are shocked that they were left on the side of the road. These individual claim they knew these things for years? I've known Chris had issues...for years! The difference is, I wouldn't let Chris shovel snow. They say they would quit the pulpit before they would do what Chris has done? But they say they knew for years? Joe Sweet, Chris Reed, and Eric and Loretta Rote, all knew each other for awhile. These people have fellowshipped for sometimes it seems, why didn't someone act on Chris' bad behavior before? If you see tread and steel belts coming out of your tire, you know it will become flat? So, obviously you will change it. Yet, like so many other people who are in these situations, no one says anything, no one changes the tire. They ride around until they are stuck on the side of the road. When anyone does speak up and point the false prophet out, they are attacked. By individuals who will later sheepishly apologize to the ones who knew the guy was banged up. Cognitive Dissonance and Confirmation Bias keeps individuals stuck in these situations, until it gets to be a circus train wreck. Again, from this video this situation was long long running. The car was purchased with a knocking motor, even mechanics told these people the car was going to throw a rod. But, now they are just shocked that the motor is blown, and oil is running down the driveway.


https://youtu.be/fsfPjQ3GqP4?si=j9OA84q4p0u8lCh9

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This is Chris' response.

https://www.youtube.com/live/NS_Q26i...CsUmWyT5Mj7Tau

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1g20...ew?usp=sharing

This the pastor, Joe Sweet who called out Reed.

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You know something, this is just the tip of the iceberg. Just the very tip. The old snowball effect. When someone in ministry doesn't stop and sit "themselves" down, it only gets worse. This is pretty bad. Holding onto a ministry when it is capsizing, because to sit down, and reexamine one's life requires a change in vocation. Lifting bags of concrete, stocking shelves at Walmart, or being a night watchman. Can't be fathomed, because of a "self-image" of the prophet, pastor, evangelist, apostle teacher. The focus should be on Jesus Christ, His death, burial, and resurrection. The whole sitting on the platform, and holding a microphone can get a little out of hand. If we allow our own self image remove the good fear of God. Which is respect. Taking the guard of the circular saw, and sticking your carpenter pencil in the end to lock it open, happens from time to time. But, once we lose respect (carefulness) of what that tool's spinning blade can do, and why the guard must spring back to cover the spinning teeth. One accident can be life changing. When we lose respect for what we are doing in ministry, and become self delusional. Time works it's super power, and sooner or later heads will roll.

https://www.youtube.com/live/VTDkJL_...xcEbPByr8rLDwX

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The word of the day is "Data Mining"

While this term has other definitions, it has one for the charismatic "prophet"

As it is being used ecclesiastically, data mining refers to the practice of covertly gathering personal information from social media profiles (such as Facebook or Instagram) of attendees or followers to use that information during "prophetic" moments during a service. They find the information on family, friends, addresses, past history, illnesses. Peter Popoff dream come true. The individuals in this video are clobbering Chris Reed. Preaching can be so rewarding to one's soul. It's awesome. But if you are focused on titles, positions, fame and FOURTUNE! You are asking for all sorts of mayhem. Chris should've fell in love with Jesus Christ, stayed in the prayer room, and never set a foot on a platform. He could of had a fishing trip ministry, where he could've led people to the Gospel, prayed people through to the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues, and baptized them in the name of Jesus Christ. Instead of prophet lying, and getting into all kinds of mess. Jesus really knows how to lead us to greener pastures, and help us to help others. To die in obscurity but to be loved by Christ isn't a bad thing. It's pretty cool I must say. The Apostle Paul only wanted to know Christ in the death, burial, and the power of the resurrection.


https://www.youtube.com/live/_pGzDGs...3sBcnDLt77EsJ_

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I watched it. I have been following Mike on YouTube for those videos exposing corruption. Very eyes opening.

To some extent the Lord puts a responsibility on the hearers to judge the prophets in the OT and false teachers in the NT. This also shows once more that a believer really needs to pay attention to the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles, they need to be truly a disciples of Christ independently, instead of being disciples of a denomination or leader. They need to put their teaching and guidance in perspective.

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I am actually coming more and more to the conclusion that paid full time ministry is not a good idea.

During the times of Jesus, the culture was that teachers were supposed to have a job. They were encouraged to arrange their lives so they could dedicate themselves as much as possible to the Torah and its teachings while keeping work. The saying was that the teacher that has no profession can't be a good teacher. Some did that by having periods of hard work and periods of not working. Traveling teachers expenses were the only thing expected to be fully covered, and usually by the means of hospitality, not salaries. This is explained in the Jewish Encyclopedia from 1906, and can also be seen in the Didache.

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The pressure of a hugh platform and expectation of bringing in massive finances to support it definitely invite corruption.

It's better If you have a small church with several teaching Elders who can share the responsibility and still are able to work. More personal and honest.

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:thumbsup

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I believe you are referencing the Ethics of the Fathers? "Rabbi Gamaliel the son of Rabbi Judah Hanasi said: excellent is the study of the Torah when combined with a worldly occupation, for toil in them both keeps sin out of one’s mind; But [study of the] Torah which is not combined with a worldly occupation, in the end comes to be neglected and becomes the cause of sin. And all who labor with the community, should labor with them for the sake of Heaven, for the merit of their forefathers sustains them (the community), and their (the forefather’s) righteousness endures for ever; And as for you, [God in such case says] I credit you with a rich reward, as if you [yourselves] had [actually] accomplished [it all]."

Basically gives the opinion that those who study Torah, should be combine with a trade. Because Torah study alone without work will in the end be nullified and lead to a sinful life. Which in Modern Israel most Yeshivas have students who live off welfare. One must always keep in mind that Rabbinical Talmudism isn't monolithic. Rabbinical Talmudic Judaism is highly debatable. That's not my opinion, that is actually how it is structured. The rabbis debate the Torah, and give their many conclusions. The Didache pretty much echoes the thoughts of the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 9. Preachers who settle among the people must not be burdensome, never ask for money. The people are to support the ministry, but only if he is a true prophet, teacher. Only then are they worthy of the support of the people. What happens to the Chris Reeds of the world is that all they know is being a snake oil hucksters. They aren't delusional where they do what they do and believe in God at the same time. They are fully aware they are ecclesiastical criminals, and would steal the gold fillings out of your head, rather than pray them into your head.

Reason being they have a death grip on the pulpit. They won't dig ditches and they won't stock shelves in Target. They want to hit the heights, and live in a mansion right here on earth. They want the reward now, and lifting bags of cement into a wheelbarrow isn't part of the equation.

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I personally have no problem with supporting full time ministry. I see the call to show hospitality to the preachers and the teachers too (gal 6:6) and I also see sending support, not just hospitality.

Perhaps that can be applied all the way to full time support all the way to retirement for congregations that can afford it, because, after all, the support in the NT was to allow for ministers to dedicate the needed time by some financial support.

That being said, sometimes, I do wonder if the application is a little bit stretched after I have seen the results of it.

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You are so correct. It is just what happens when bad examples get a hold of positions of trust and authority. Hence you have a duty to never allow it to happen under your watch. Children and animals are innocent, they need protection and care by those who are responsible for them. Yet, there are some horrifying stories of them being abused. Jesus warned that anyone harming a child would be better off being drowned in the sea, and a weight tied around their neck. The mark of the godly is seen by how they care for their animals, and the mark of the wicked is that they mistreat their animals. I said all that to say this, while we have some brutal examples around us, we should never see the examples as being a standard, which would cause good examples to suffer. There are great men and women who love the people of God, and would lay down their lives to see those in their church families prosper. Support isn't even in their focus, only souls. Elders should be able to survive even without support from the church family. The Apostle Paul said he would rather die, then make his glorying void, 1 Corinthians 9:15. Everything he penned out in 1 Corinthians 9 wasn't written so people would give support out of coercion. The Apostle was more than capable to support himself, and those other elders who were with him. I hope you are doing well coksiw, and your ministry, and church family are also prospering In Jesus name.