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StMark 02-19-2008 03:05 PM

Re: Where Have All Of The Conservatives Gone?
 
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 393925)
Something smells funny............

Absolutley. And as far the the "scoop" is concerned.
There is more to this than meets the eye folks but you wont get me to post it

Elizabeth 02-19-2008 03:07 PM

Re: Where Have All Of The Cons Gone?
 
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 394242)
Baby come back!!!!

Cuz I just can't live without you ......

...any kind of fool could see I was wrong and I just cant live without you...

thanks now that dumb songs gonna be in my head!:crazyluv

StillStanding 02-19-2008 03:12 PM

Re: Where Have All Of The Cons Gone?
 
The conservatives didn't leave AFF, the AFF left them! :lol

Does this sound familiar? :D

Elizabeth 02-19-2008 03:37 PM

Re: Where Have All Of The Conservatives Gone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 394247)
Absolutley. And as far the the "scoop" is concerned.
There is more to this than meets the eye folks but you wont get me to post it

:thwak

No there's not!:girlytantrum

Esther 02-19-2008 03:39 PM

Re: Where Have All Of The Conservatives Gone?
 
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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 394038)
Sealed with his approval--that same thing??:happydance

Can't beat His approval. :)

papapraiz 02-19-2008 03:53 PM

Re: Where Have All Of The Conservatives Gone?
 
or is that 7,000 ......... ?

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 393570)
I'm still here CC. If I must bear the conservative burden alone, I'll do what I must.......


But the Lord has spoken to me and said that there are yet 6,000 who have not bowed their knee to Baal............................


SDG 02-19-2008 03:53 PM

Re: Where Have All Of The Conservatives Gone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 393925)
Something smells funny............

It wasn't me.

Elizabeth 02-19-2008 03:56 PM

Re: Where Have All Of The Conservatives Gone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 394342)
It wasn't me.

:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny

CC1 02-19-2008 04:14 PM

Re: Where Have All Of The Conservatives Gone?
 
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner (Post 393623)
I still read here and post here. Haven't "left" anywhere.

To Prax and others who say some of us are "not up to" defending the doctrine...let's get real. :)

I've been doing the forum thing for several years now, and I have done more than my share of stepping up to the plate and going round and round with all comers. I'm not intimidated by the recent crop of liberal intelligentsia here, some of whom seem to think their insights are new and fresh...:)

For goodness sake, on old FCF I climbed in the ring with Newman day in and day out. And there aren't too many libs around now that can unzip her Bible cover when it comes to the sort of debate we are talking about. So the old "they are intimidated by people who know the Word and ask questions" deal won't fly. Hogwash.

I have just reached a place after several years of duking it out where I am not as energized about the debate process anymore. I am not so sure it is all that productive for me. In fact, I have begun to feel as if I would be better served to scale back my participation in that kind of debate.

I had a pastor through my teens and early twenties who had been a presbyter for decades. He told me once, in a moment of candor, that he felt he had been on the district board too long. He said he had dealt with so many issues involving unscrupulous preachers, men falling into sin, etc. that it had begun to affect his thinking. He said he found himself wondering if there was anybody that was real, and true. He was becoming suspicious because of dealing so much with the bad apples.

I love this Apostolic message. I love this precious Truth. It is more to me than just an intellectual exercise. It is in my heart and soul, in the marrow of my bones.

I am finding that I am weary of spending signifigant portions of time seeing things unspeakably dear to me mocked and scoffed at.

In the past three years or so, I have seen my wife's home church and my home church both go totally charismatic.

I have seen the devastation that has been wreaked in many lives when the fabric of their souls was wrent by some preacher who thought he had a new revelation, and their mooring was destroyed. I have heard their cynical words and listened to them express their doubts about everything you can imagine now.

I've watched them drift farther and farther from God and truth...people that I love. Some of them my own family.

And so, over time, I guess I have become more and more sensitive about the issue. More and more, when I see the same spirit that wrecked two good churches I loved being given a voice and a platform, rather than climb back in the ring to debate people whose minds are already made up, I just cringe, remember my backslidden loved ones, and click the red X at the right hand corner.

I found FCF about a year before all the changes began to takeplacein the churches I reference.

I was able to tell my family when it all began exactly what the progression would be when our pastor began to articulate the same concepts I read about on FCF. I knew where it was going.

They have since, some of them, admitted that I called it exactly like it turned out. My every sad prediction came to pass.

So honestly, the debate just isn't much fun to me these days.

The Word of God is my life. The propagation of this Truth is what my world is about. It is serious to me. Sacred.

I know all the arguments; I know the counter-arguments. I've been well-schooled on these boards.

But I am not much interested in continuing to fuss the same old fusses over and over again. I don't really enjoy it anymore.

Once in a while I still like to jump in, but the relish is gone.

I'm not mad at anybody, and I have never been a crusader to try and "change" this forum or any other. I don't think I am that important or powerful, and I would never be so presumptuous as to think I should demand that a whole group of folks alter what they are doing just for my personal comfort level. If a place gets to be not so much to my taste, I don't try and get the whole world to get in step with me; I just move on myself.

I am not "abandoning" the forum. There are folks here that I have come to appreciate and enjoy interacting with.

CC1, for example, has proven to be a real friend, not just here but in real life. I love him and his family. We don't agree on some things, but he's my friend. I pray for him. I will always appreciate him.

There are lots of others.

So I will hang around some for that reason. but don't look for me to be as involved in hashing out the same old issues as I have been at other times, because I most likely won't. I'm sure there will be times when I can't resist weighing in on something...but that isn'tlikely to be the norm.

Anyway, I hope you all know that there is no great conspiracy, and no dark, hidden agenda. No deliberate, organized conservative "exodus." Just more than likely the passage of time, and the changes that come with it.

Blessings to you all.

Coonskinner,

I appreciate your post and understand where you are coming from. I also have a degree of burn out when it comes to hashing out the same old issues.

I also have been disappointed with some of the "libs" that have supposedly represented my point of view on AFF. The quality of discourse has undoubtedly gone down.

Good discussion is based upon mutual respect and courtesy while one contends for different positions and not on how inflamnatory one can be. I fear that truth has been lost on many.

My hope is that new conservative, ultra conservative, moderate, and liberal folks will step forward, perhaps moving from lurkers to posters, and give AFF a new spark.

While there is "nothing new under the sun" there certainly can be new and inspiring discussions about the same old subjects.

AmazingGrace 02-19-2008 04:16 PM

Re: Where Have All Of The Cons Gone?
 
Can I just say in the famous words of a wonderful poster... admin and well yall all know......................WOW


Ok I am over it!


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