Originally Posted by South of I 90 (Post 485629)

This can't be serious! :eek:

Originally Posted by Jeanie (Post 485639)

I think he is.

Originally Posted by Kae (Post 484881)

If you are raised from a child that it is wrong to wear pants is it a conviction or a learned behavior or any standard?

Originally Posted by bkstokes (Post 485129)

I was not raised pentecostal, and I am a guy. Thus, when I obeyed Acts 2:38 I did not really even consider the topic. I just took it for what they said it was. Don't get me wrong I looked at the scriptures and amened the pastor when he preached it, but that was about it.

My wife also was not raised in this but she followed the standards for a while. Then when her hair started to grow really long -- her scalp started having all types of problems (she has got really thick hair) -- and she got tremendous headaches.

She finally told me that she had never been convinced of such teaching and that she was going to cut her hair. I told her that she was responsible to God and could do what she wanted to. Nevertheless, I started to really study out all the issues. After study I came to the conclusion that if someone wanted to do the standards -- as unto the Lord -- then I believed God respected their conscience.

Nevertheless, I could not scripturally find a backing for them. The only inconvience about the whole matter is how people treat us (me included) because my wife doesn't look like them. Friends quit calling. People stopped inviting me to preach, etc.

Ever time we would go to a different church they would immediatly want to get my wife baptized or pray with her to receive the Holy Ghost. IT WAS NOT MY WIFE STOP FOLLOWING THE STANDARDS THAT DID HER DAMAGE. IT WAS HOW PEOPLE TREATED HER AFTERWARDS.

Originally Posted by Darcie (Post 485118)

St. Mark my avatar is when I was still UPC.

I don't think I look ugly or older than my husband.

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 485654)

Wanna know what's sad?

When I read this post, I immediately looked at your picture (I've seen it several times before, but with the knowledge that you aren't saved..I mean, UPC) and right away noticed that your blouse is too low.
This is what I mean by how my mind thinks because of how I was raised. See, I didn't think it was too low (in fact, I honestly didn't notice it at all) until you said that your pic was taken when you were still UPC.

I hate doing that. I want to change. But I was raised to be judgmental toward people and even though I don't do it outwardly anymore, my mind still does before I can stop it.

My apologies, Dar. I think you are beautiful and don't think you are immodest in that pic at all. Not that it would matter if I did think so anyway.

Originally Posted by dizzyde (Post 485644)

I don't think Bro. Alex jokes much...

Originally Posted by South of I 90 (Post 485629)

This can't be serious! :eek:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 485303)

My views on standards have changed, but I still look and dress exactly the same as I always have. Well.......I wear shorts sometimes to play golf! :)

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 485656)

Hmmm....how fast can I hit that back button and find her avatar again!!!!:happydance

On a serious note to your point I experienced the same thing for several years after leaving the Mothership. Even though intellectually and spiritually in study and prayer I knew what was right I would find myself (circa mid 1980's) judging guys by the length of their hair (over the ears = backslid or never saved), facial hair, etc. I didn't mean to but that was my instantaneous mental judgement upon seeing these guys. I would catch myself and be so aggravated at that psychological conditionig I had from the first 23 years of my life.

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 485654)

Wanna know what's sad?

When I read this post, I immediately looked at your picture (I've seen it several times before, but with the knowledge that you aren't saved..I mean, UPC) and right away noticed that your blouse is too low.

This is what I mean by how my mind thinks because of how I was raised. See, I didn't think it was too low (in fact, I honestly didn't notice it at all) until you said that your pic was taken when you were still UPC.

I hate doing that. I want to change. But I was raised to be judgmental toward people and even though I don't do it outwardly anymore, my mind still does before I can stop it.

My apologies, Dar. I think you are beautiful and don't think you are immodest in that pic at all. Not that it would matter if I did think so anyway.

Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen (Post 485658)

I WAS serious! :bliss I forgot to upload my "OBEY ACTS 2:38" pic, I'll put that in my album, to show that I really took that pic, and so that my trip to the beach will be validated.

HeavenlyOne,
Did you grow up in a conservative UPC church?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex