Originally Posted by Tyrel Sackett (Post 592406)

The way that you posted this thread is insinuating that you got off of CAF due to the overwhelming opinion of ministers that were against interacial marriages. That is not the truth..

Originally Posted by Tyrel Sackett (Post 592406)

I ask the question: You got of of CAF because 20% disagreed with you? What kind of joke is that? I did read that you said one of the "many" reasons, but I kind of find it hilarious that 20% of CAF would disagree with you and you get your feeling hurt and run off...

Originally Posted by Tyrel Sackett (Post 592406)

my reason for stating this is that you make it sound as if the overwhelming majority opposes the interacial marriage. That is obviously not true.

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4 (Post 591800)

I'm about to post this on EA in response to an interracial marriage thread. This was one of many reasons I resigned membership on CAF.

I hope you CAF'ers read this too!


I'll start by openly declaring I'm for interracial marriages! Sadly, I'm acquainted with pastors and even saints which refuse to acknowledge interracial marriages, and advise against it. The despicable excuses utilized to advise against interracial marriages are 'think of society and/or culture, what will they say" or "think of the children, it will be hard on them growing up."

To pastors and saints adhering to the idiotic excuses above, to them I reply in the following fashion. Sir/Mrs/Ms, if you're worried what society/culture might think, you best leave the church and train your children in the ways of sin!

Attention readers, society has already ostracized us! We're already ridiculed and condemned for serving and obeying God! Being ridiculed for interracial marriage shouldn't make anymore of a difference. Children and teens are still ridiculed for dressing holy, not participating in certain events, and being identified as a pentecostal! My Goodness, we're already accused of being demoniacally possessed for speaking in tongues!

I'll boldly state I forbid society to dictate the love shared between any Holy Ghost filled interracial couple!

Any I'll leave the following message to those whom are against interracial marriage. Matthew 19:6 reads "..... What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."

When you prevent or advise against marriage between saints, due solely to ethnicity, you're in direct violation of God's divine mandate! You're also found on dangerous ground by putting asunder what God has joined together!

I think these so-called Pentecostals bearing these excuses have deeper underlying issues and need a real Holy-Ghost experience.

Blessings,
Bro. A.C.

Originally Posted by Tyrel Sackett (Post 592407)

No. I do not. For the most part, it is not a biblical doctrine as much as it is a personal preference.

Originally Posted by Tyrel Sackett (Post 592407)

For the most part, it is not a biblical doctrine as much as it is a personal preferance.

Originally Posted by Tyrel Sackett (Post 592407)

It was stated for the sake of the children and other reasons.

Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 592082)

This is a very interesting thread, albeit a completely irrelevant one. The premise of this thread implies that many or a large portion of poster's on the CA forum are opposed to inter-racial marriage. This is completely false. I have gone back and read the two threads in quetions on CAF, the poll started by this thread starter and another one on the same subject and have found the most are in strong support of interracial marriages. While a few presented some reservations to the idea because the racist tendencies of the communities in which they labour. While I would vehemently disagree with those who hold those positions I have an even bigger problem someone who would intentionally spread false information. Where I come from thats called lying. The poll started on CAF by this AFF thread starter showed that 80% of respondants were in agreement with his position and the very few who didn't admitted that it was certainly not a biblical prohibition but the result of the cultural taboos of the community in which they labour.

80%!!!!


We probably couldn't get 80% of the people on this forum to agree what day it was let alone agree 80% on a subject that been a contentious issue across america since 1865

I'm not a prophet nor the son of a prophet but me thinks that this thread starter has other motivations for this thread.

JMHO

Originally Posted by Margies3 (Post 592564)

Most of us here wouldn't know whether this is accurate or not since we are not welcome on CAF :stirpot

Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 592516)

I'm so thankful I was raised free of racial discrimination. Never heard it or saw it exampled in our home outside of a few comments once in a while about the French being ignorant. :lol LOL! (I grew up, as a child, in a city that was about 50% French/English).

I just can't imagine someone being against racial discrimination but will discriminate against their own brothers and sisters in the Church for other reasons. Seems like that would be just a wee bit hypocritical. ;) :)

Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 592546)

If you don't think 20% of a [hypothetical] group of Apostolics opposing interracial relationships is disturbing, then I don't know what your thought process is on this, brother.

I personally know people who've been affected by such attitudes in the church, and I know from scripture there's just no place for it in God's church. I believe such attitudes are wrong on multiple levels, and too many Apostolics have been making excuses for the inexcusable for far too long.


It's personal preference?
How about maybe "it's prejudice". Why not just call it what it is?

This is specifically bothersome when this stuff comes down from Pastors and others in church leadership, because other people can be influenced to adopt or maintain the same attitude also. Ironically, some of these men claim to be so faithful to the word, and will fight you to the death over precise wording of baptismal formula, mode of baptism, the wording of Godhead doctrine, etc... but will teach and preach racial intolerance regarding relationships between saints of different backgrounds-- even though they know there's no biblical basis for their views. If these men know their bible as much as they claim to, they should know that interracial and inter-ethnic marriage is not only prevalent in the bible, but there's nothing in scripture that forbids it.

**When pastors let it be known they will not officiate marriages between members of their church who are of different races, that goes beyond personal preference. That is prejudice.

**When Pastors discourage Brother X or Sister Y from marrying each other because of their race, that now has gone beyond the pastor's personal preference. That is prejudice. He's not the one getting married; he's not the one who's choosing to settle down with this person. As long as the person's mate is a saint of God who's living right, and both parties have been prayerful about their choice of a spouse, its not his business what the other person's race or ethnic background is. His place at that point is to give solid premarital counsel to this Christian couple --- not try to get them to break off their relationship because of his "personal preference".

**When a certain Bible College makes a rule that if students of different races wish to date each other, the college must first notify their parents first, (yes, a real-life situation that I know of) don't try and tell me there's no prejudice at the root of that.



It was "stated" for the sake of the children. Yes, I know it's often stated as such, but let's not be naive and pretend that it's always about "the children". I think common sense tells us that many people will "state" such a reason as a smokescreen to cover up their own intolerance on that issue. Yes, there are times when people do have sincere concerns about the long-term impact it may have on the couple's children, family, etc,... but too often it's just a cop-out.

Originally Posted by Margies3 (Post 592564)

Most of us here wouldn't know whether this is accurate or not since we are not welcome on CAF :stirpot

Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 592567)

Indeed. CAF has a reputation for kicking people out who don't fit the narrow mold of what they consider a 'conservative Apostolic' to be.