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Charnock 01-27-2011 09:40 PM

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 
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Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1019398)
I recently let my license drop.

I know of six other ministers whom I am close to in both age and ideology who have done the same.

They're sick of it.

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1019432)
Can you explain "sick of it"? What exactly is causing you guys to let your license drop

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 1019507)
Sick of what?

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Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 1019536)
What are you sick of?

Hypocrisy.
Politics.
False doctrine.
Legalism.
Hatefulness.
Religious Pride.

BeenThinkin 01-27-2011 09:43 PM

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 
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Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1019607)
Hypocrisy.
Politics.
False doctrine.
Legalism.
Hatefulness.
Religious Pride.

Is that all? .... (Yep, been there, done that and have the Tee shirt to boot, but it's short sleeve so I can't wear it to Gen Conf. if I was of the mind to go! NOT! :heeheehee

Been Thinkin

mizpeh 01-27-2011 09:45 PM

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 
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Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1019607)
Hypocrisy.
Politics.
False doctrine.
Legalism.
Hatefulness.
Religious Pride.

What did you think of BOTT?

Charnock 01-27-2011 09:48 PM

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 
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Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 1019611)
What did you think of BOTT?

Overall, it was very good.

Mike Williams message was my favorite, but Mark Morgan was very good as well.

DKB used the term Apostolic Identity no less than three times in his fifteen minute message, and Jeff Arnold couldn't stop using words like poop and bastard, not to mention insulting everyone from the host pastor to the politicos in attendance.

Other than that, I enjoyed the experience.

pelathais 01-27-2011 09:57 PM

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 
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Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 1019577)
Good to know, Pel. Do you suppose there is a correlation between sectarianism and dispensational eschatology?

Definitely. Just look at the UPC. How did they respond when faced with an apparently "competing" eschatology (Partial Preterism)? They immediately divided and kicked out the PP's.

Tim LaHaye is perhaps the one most responsible for popularizing Dispensationalism in recent years. Read his earlier books, "The Battle for the Mind" and "The Battle for the Bible." He draws some very exclusivistic boxes around what he thinks is "correct" belief and "incorrect" beliefs.

Dispensationalism depends upon a very literal interpretation of the entire Bible. Dwight Pentecost's book "Things to Come" - which was used as a prophecy text in most UPC Bible Colleges at one time or the other - emphasizes the need for a consistent literal interpretation.

Every disagreement about obviously symbolic passages, disagreements about the meanings of symbols used in "literal" passages, the constant frustration in attempting to reconcile dates and chronologies... it all leads to innumerable divisions whenever one side or the other claims that "God told me so..."

BeenThinkin 01-27-2011 09:58 PM

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 
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Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1019612)
Overall, it was very good.

Mike Williams message was my favorite, but Mark Morgan was very good as well.

DKB used the term Apostolic Identity no less than three times in his fifteen minute message, and Jeff Arnold couldn't stop using words like poop and bastard, not to mention insulting everyone from the host pastor to the politicos in attendance.

Other than that, I enjoyed the experience.

Jeff Arnold needs to go back to doing magic tricks..... he wasn't as insulting when he was doing that! Oh, wait! Maybe he was!

Been Thinkin

pelathais 01-27-2011 10:02 PM

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 
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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin (Post 1019619)
Jeff Arnold needs to go back to doing magic tricks..... he wasn't as insulting when he was doing that! Oh, wait! Maybe he was!

Been Thinkin

Hah! You are a brother if you were around that long ago.

BeenThinkin 01-27-2011 10:06 PM

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 
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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 1019622)
Hah! You are a brother if you were around that long ago.

Yep! He made a fool out of me one day.....moving around dots on a card! I suddenly thought I had it figured out and he acted like I had and then made a fool out of me in front of everyone! So come to think about it.... he was a smartaleck even then! lol

BT

DAII 01-27-2011 10:15 PM

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 
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Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1019607)
Hypocrisy.
Politics.
False doctrine.
Legalism.
Hatefulness.
Religious Pride.

Your bitter and have an agenda

Jason B 01-27-2011 10:36 PM

Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
 
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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 1019631)
Your bitter and have an agenda

And a compromiser with a charismatic cherry on top ;)


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