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rava61 01-26-2009 09:57 PM

Re: The "Abomination that Maketh Desolate"
 
OK - what does the ceasation of sacrifices have to do with it? He's talking about the action of the 'Man of Perdition', right?

RV

mfblume 01-26-2009 11:21 PM

Re: The "Abomination that Maketh Desolate"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rava61 (Post 691929)
OK - what does the ceasation of sacrifices have to do with it? He's talking about the action of the 'Man of Perdition', right?

RV

Here is where I am coming from. From my futurist days, it was taught that the abomination of desolation was caused by the son of perdition in 2 Thess 2. It was also claimed in that form of eschatology that the son of perdition was the same one who caused sacrifices to cease according to Daniel 9:27. I now believe that this idea was in error in confusing the desolator as the one who caused sacrifices to cease. Dan 9:27 never did say the desolator caused sacrifices to cease, but rather was a person totally apart from the one who causes sacrifices to cease.

In reality, you are correct. There is nothing about the son of perdition that causes sacrifices to cease. But futurism teaches there is. I just thought you were of the futurist persuasion that makes the desolator and the causer of the sacrifices to cease one and the same person, who is the son of perdition in 2 Thess 2.

What I teach is that the verse in Dan 9:27 shows Jesus cited as the one causing the sacrifices to cease after 3.5 years of his ministry when he died on the cross. That is what Heb 10 claims as the cause for sacrifices to cease.

The abomination of desolation Jesus referred to in Matt 24 was mentioned in Dan 9:27, but would not occur in the 70 weeks of Daniel, but afterwards.

So, what are your thoughts on who causes sacrifices to cease according to Dan 9:27?

God bless!

ElderM 02-01-2009 03:11 PM

Re: The "Abomination that Maketh Desolate"
 
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mfblume 02-02-2009 04:48 PM

Re: The "Abomination that Maketh Desolate"
 
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Originally Posted by ElderM (Post 696496)
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This will be from a full preterist perspective.

Godsdrummer 02-17-2009 11:08 PM

Re: The "Abomination that Maketh Desolate"
 
Amen
falla39 and mfblume guess ya all know which way I lean But I call it kingdom theology the Kingdom of God is hear today and we are it.


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