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Timmy 04-17-2010 06:19 PM

Re: Is God a person?
 
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Originally Posted by Falla39 (Post 899909)
As I understand it, Timmy, the Jehovah God of the Old Testament,
came to visit His people in the New Testament. HE didn't come as
they supposed He would come. God (Spirit) overshadowed Mary and
HE begot/fathered Immanuel/Jesus through a little Jewish virgin named
Mary. He was not ready to be manifested as the Son of God at twelve
yrs. old. But when he was about 30 yrs. old, he was baptized by John
in the river Jordan. As he came up out of the water he (John) saw the
heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him (Jesus).
And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son
IN whom I am well pleased. (to dwell in) or in whom I am pleased to dwell
in. After Jesus ministry of three and one half yrs and Jesus was sacrificed
for the sins of the world, was buried and was resurrected, He ascended
back up to where he had come from. He had finished the work his Father
(God, Spirit) had told Him to do and say. He went back to the Father and
submitted himself. The Father (Spirit, God) could not do as the Spirit what
needed to be done as the Son. Neither could the Son do what the Father
could do as the Spirit. The work was accomplished by the Father in the Son.
Jesus told his disciples that without him, they could do nothing. The work
of redemption was accomplished by the Father IN THE Son.

Timmy, The only (person, image) I can see as God would be when He (Spirit)
was manifested IN and through the SON, Christ Jesus.

1 Tim.3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest
in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles,
believed on in the world, received up into glory".

The Jews lost contact with their Jehovah God when He was manifested in
the Son. All through the OT He sent prophets, rising up early and sending
them but they kept persecuting and killing them. Then finally He came IN the
Son and they didn't recognize who He was, so they killed him too. IF they had
known who He was, they would not have crucified the King of Glory.

Falla39

You sound almost ready to vote. :D

mizpeh 04-17-2010 06:28 PM

Re: Is God a person?
 
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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 899930)
You sound almost ready to vote. :D

Have you voted, Timmy? :grampa

Timmy 04-17-2010 06:31 PM

Re: Is God a person?
 
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Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 899936)
Have you voted, Timmy? :grampa

I'm abstaining. Or maybe I'll vote after there's a consensus. :lol (But should I vote with or against it? :hmmm)

MonoTheist 04-17-2010 10:56 PM

Re: Is God a person?
 
Of course God is a person..and Jesus Christ expressed God to mankind...Heb 1:3

Neck 04-17-2010 11:29 PM

Re: Is God a person?
 
From man's definition, concept and understanding we visualize God better by defining him as a person. God does not define himself or confine himself to a person and for sure not person's.

Sam 04-18-2010 07:33 AM

Re: Is God a person?
 
humans have always made God in their image

Falla39 04-18-2010 07:49 AM

Re: Is God a person?
 
[QUOTE=Falla39;

The Jews lost contact with their Jehovah God when He was manifested in
the Son. All through the OT He sent prophets, rising up early and sending
them but they kept persecuting and killing them. Then finally He came IN
the Son and they didn't recognize who He was, so they killed him too. IF
they had known who He was, they would not have crucified the King of Glory.
Falla39[/QUOTE]

Jesus chose twelve men to be his disciples to follow him. He walked
and talked among him and taught them. They saw the miracles he did. They
saw him heal the sick and raise the dead, and forgive sins. After his death,
burial and resurrection, he appeared to them and others. Before his ascension,
he appeared to them and taught them some more.

Luke 36-48.
Then in vs 49 he tells them, "And behold I send the promise of my Father unto
you: BUT tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from
on high" And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands
and blessed them. And while he blessed them, he was parted from them and carr-
ied up into heaven. AND they WORSHIPPED him, and returned to Jerusalem with
GREAT JOY: And continued in the temple, praising and blessing GOD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_guvjMANAKs

Timmy, I won't be voting on a yes or no! I vote JESUS! NAME Above
ALL Names!

Falla39

Timmy 04-18-2010 10:51 AM

Re: Is God a person?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Falla39 (Post 900023)
Jesus chose twelve men to be his disciples to follow him. He walked
and talked among him and taught them. They saw the miracles he did. They
saw him heal the sick and raise the dead, and forgive sins. After his death,
burial and resurrection, he appeared to them and others. Before his ascension,
he appeared to them and taught them some more.

Luke 36-48.
Then in vs 49 he tells them, "And behold I send the promise of my Father unto
you: BUT tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from
on high" And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands
and blessed them. And while he blessed them, he was parted from them and carr-
ied up into heaven. AND they WORSHIPPED him, and returned to Jerusalem with
GREAT JOY: And continued in the temple, praising and blessing GOD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_guvjMANAKs

Timmy, I won't be voting on a yes or no! I vote JESUS! NAME Above
ALL Names!

Falla39

I'll vote if you will! :D

pelathais 04-18-2010 12:22 PM

Re: Is God a person?
 
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Originally Posted by Neck (Post 900000)
From man's definition, concept and understanding we visualize God better by defining him as a person. God does not define himself or confine himself to a person and for sure not person's.

Excellent point, Neck.

What we "see" as being God is filtered through our own humanity and "personhood." We tend to then attribute "anthropomorphisms" back onto Deity.

It's an inevitable consequence of being human and no big deal usually; but as Neck points out we should keep it in mind.

God is what He says He is - not always what we "see" Him to be.

Praxeas 04-18-2010 02:16 PM

Re: Is God a person?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neck (Post 900000)
From man's definition, concept and understanding we visualize God better by defining him as a person. God does not define himself or confine himself to a person and for sure not person's.

Where does the bible say God does not consider Himself to be a person? Does God consider Himself to be living? Does God consider Himself to be rational?


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