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Truthseeker 11-30-2007 09:06 AM

Supplements/herbs
 
Just thought I start a thread to hear from others about if they taken supplement/herbs with goog results. I'll start


I've taken mangosteen juice for irritable bowel. I went on a 6 day fast and it threw my system in a tail spin, never happen before from fasting. By taking mangosteen, Noni juices it cleared it up. There's also a apple cider mixture I hear is realy good for the GI.

The Mrs 11-30-2007 09:08 AM

Aaaarrrrrrgggghhhh!!!! :ranting

Truthseeker 11-30-2007 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mrs (Post 314786)
Aaaarrrrrrgggghhhh!!!! :ranting

is that your gastric tubing making that sound? :hanky

The Mrs 11-30-2007 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 314787)
is that your gastric tubing making that sound? :hanky


I guess I didn't get any 'goog' results... :tease

Titus2Mom 11-30-2007 10:23 AM

I have suffered from migraines for years. Mine are hormonal-related. I started taking Dong Quai as a preventative, and no more migraines.

My husband had a boil, and I gave him Red Clover Blossoms, and it healed.

I got a really good book called "Prescription for Herbal Healing" by Phyllis A. Balch and it is really helpful, especially when just starting to learn this stuff.

(P.S. those are just a couple examples. We have been making major changes in our home involving diet and OTC meds and such, and have all been much healthier)

HeavenlyOne 11-30-2007 10:27 AM

One has to be very careful with herbal supplements and vitamins, as there are certain medications that are contraindicated, and even medical conditions as well.

When asked what meds you take, always include vitamins, herbal supplements, and OTC meds, not just prescriptions.

commonsense 11-30-2007 12:02 PM

Nutrition???
 
I've been self medicating for 30+ years. I take vitamins and herbal supplements. I think it helps my over all health. Even if you're not a nutcase like myself it's important to remember that #1 The RDA levels on vitamins are probably much too low. #2 Even if you eat healthy, you cannot get all the necessary nutrition from the "American" diet.

On a recent 9 hr trip I listened to a CD by the guy that ate at Mac D's for a month. He gives some scary info on our typical fast food frenzy.:donuts
I was never a fast food addict but I did stop for a quick burger or my favorite, a jamoca shake from Arby's. Now I can't do it.

The nutrition advice is to shop the perimeter of the grocery store and stay away from anything in a box. Easy to say if you don't work 40 hours +5 hours for lunch,18 mile round trip to work.....it's all about time!!!!!

If you read the ingredient panel you end up putting it back on the shelf.
The worst offender is high fructose corn syrup. I already knew it was the bad dude but the CD gave lots more data on the evils of hfcs. Don't eat it!!

Ferd 11-30-2007 12:10 PM

HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP IS THE DEVIL!

did you all hear me?


LOL.


anybody know good herbal supliments to lower cholostol?

LaVonne 11-30-2007 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 314913)
HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP IS THE DEVIL!

did you all hear me?


LOL.


anybody know good herbal supliments to lower cholostol?


Not a supplement, but Oolong tea (green...yuk!) is supposed to be excellent for lowering cholesterol...my FIL drinks it every morning religiously and has had great results.

Ferd 11-30-2007 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CareyM (Post 314918)
Not a supplement, but Oolong tea (green...yuk!) is supposed to be excellent for lowering cholesterol...my FIL drinks it every morning religiously and has had great results.

oolong or Green? arent those different?

HeavenlyOne 11-30-2007 12:24 PM

Fish oil is good for high cholesterol. So is oatmeal.

Of course, eating venison helps keep cholesterol from getting high in the first place!

LaVonne 11-30-2007 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 314920)
oolong or Green? arent those different?

From what I understand, Oolong is a green tea. At least the buds (the stuff I've seen is in little buds) I've seen are quite green.

Ferd 11-30-2007 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CareyM (Post 314926)
From what I understand, Oolong is a green tea. At least the buds (the stuff I've seen is in little buds) I've seen are quite green.

guess i need to dring more. I do dring a good bit of green tea.

Kae 11-30-2007 12:32 PM

Medicinal herbs taken long turn can harm the body just as medicine can. The herbs you take on a consistent basis should be whole food grade herbs. By whole I mean they have five parts: fatty acids, carbohydrates, protein, vitamins, and minerals. If they do not have all five parts your body will start leaching what it is missing from your tissues. You will feel great at first, but over the long run it will start to weaken your body. If you are taking vitamin supplements your body is leaching the other 4 parts from from your tissues. Eating a diet that is rich in raw foods and cutting down on your cooked foods will help a lot.

LaVonne 11-30-2007 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 314932)
guess i need to dring more. I do dring a good bit of green tea.

Try to drink Oolong, not just green tea, there is a difference!

Timmy 11-30-2007 02:01 PM

My son was having stomach trouble. We were referred to a Chinese herb "doctor". Sold us a bunch of weird stuff to make a tea with. Sure enough, the vomiting stopped. After three days, just like the "doctor" said! :slaphappy

Do you remember the pills (I forget the name) advertised a couple of years ago, for weight loss? Yep, they really worked, too, so I heard. Just take them at bed time, on an empty stomach (i.e., stop eating three hours before). Amazing! :toofunny

Truthseeker 11-30-2007 02:03 PM

Did you know if you feel a cold or something coming you can take 4,000mg of Vitamen C and knock it? I've done it once. A ER doc told me about and I read an article about it as well. Some say take 2,000mg every hour for three times total. Vit C acan't hurt ys just pee it out.

It can cause loose stools, but didn;t with me.

MissBrattified 11-30-2007 02:13 PM

I certainly believe in natural/herbal remedies...HOWEVER, you have to make sure you have a good, trustworthy, reliable, moral, ethical herbal consultant!!!!! (Can I stress this point some more?)

We have one that we have used since I was a kid (In Missouri), and we still go to her, whether we have to drive 2 hours to see her, or call her over the phone and describe symptoms. She's very, very good. I don't know what we'll do when she finally retires.

A lot of home remedies are curative, and others will just make you feel better--while you're sick. LOL. Others are just trial and error...they may work for one person, but do nothing at all for the next. We know what works for us, and we stick with it. Saves lots of money on doctor bills, IF they work.

We also have a pediatrician who appreciates natural healing and remedies, so I feel comfortable discussing different things with her, and she will give me a good opinion.

Last year, Sarah had some warts come up on her hands, and within a couple of months, she had 13 warts. (spread over both hands) We put compound W on them, we tried the stuff that freezes them off, nothing. Called up my herbalist, and she prescribed the following: Liquid Chlorophyll, VS-C (Viral-Immune Formula), and one other herb I can't remember the name of.

Regardless, after two months of frustration, Sarah took the herbs for two days, and I kid you not, every single wart dried up and went away. That's only one example.

The problem you run into, is that natural remedies and such are largely unregulated, so you are really left to your own devices, research and intelligence when it comes to sorting through the quackery.

MissBrattified 11-30-2007 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 315057)
Did you know if you feel a cold or something coming you can take 4,000mg of Vitamen C and knock it? I've done it once. A ER doc told me about and I read an article about it as well. Some say take 2,000mg every hour for three times total. Vit C acan't hurt ys just pee it out.

It can cause loose stools, but didn;t with me.

I have warded off several colds this way. However, I've found that if you don't catch it with the first sniffle or two, it won't do much good.

ILG 11-30-2007 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 314924)
Fish oil is good for high cholesterol. So is oatmeal.

Of course, eating venison helps keep cholesterol from getting high in the first place!

Good rty but we've eaten venison as the main stay red meat for years and my husband has high cholesterol. BUT!! If he ate beef it would probably be HIGHER!! :)

They say high cholesterol is often the result of too little fiber.

ILG 11-30-2007 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kae (Post 314933)
Medicinal herbs taken long turn can harm the body just as medicine can. The herbs you take on a consistent basis should be whole food grade herbs. By whole I mean they have five parts: fatty acids, carbohydrates, protein, vitamins, and minerals. If they do not have all five parts your body will start leaching what it is missing from your tissues. You will feel great at first, but over the long run it will start to weaken your body. If you are taking vitamin supplements your body is leaching the other 4 parts from from your tissues. Eating a diet that is rich in raw foods and cutting down on your cooked foods will help a lot.

I've never heard this before. PLease back it up with some references. Thanks.

ILG 11-30-2007 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 315071)
I have warded off several colds this way. However, I've found that if you don't catch it with the first sniffle or two, it won't do much good.

Dittos.

ILG 11-30-2007 02:19 PM

I'm into a lot of the natural stuff. It's hard to know what works and what doesn't sometimes though. Last year I had two sinus infections first time in my life. This year I am using nasal rinses and none so far...

LaVonne 11-30-2007 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 315071)
I have warded off several colds this way. However, I've found that if you don't catch it with the first sniffle or two, it won't do much good.

I've also found that 2 ginger capsules 3 times a day will knock out a cold, sinus infection and stomach problems really quick!

commonsense 11-30-2007 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 315071)
I have warded off several colds this way. However, I've found that if you don't catch it with the first sniffle or two, it won't do much good.

I have also taken mega doses of Vit C through the years to prevent a cold . And
as has been stated, there's no serious danger since it is water soluble and leaves the body.

HeavenlyOne 11-30-2007 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 314932)
guess i need to dring more. I do dring a good bit of green tea.


Uh, Ferd. Maybe you should lay off the tea for now, eh?










:D

HeavenlyOne 11-30-2007 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 315075)
Good rty but we've eaten venison as the main stay red meat for years and my husband has high cholesterol. BUT!! If he ate beef it would probably be HIGHER!! :)

They say high cholesterol is often the result of too little fiber.

Genetics also has a lot to do with it.

But I'm glad he eats venison!

HeavenlyOne 11-30-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CareyM (Post 315161)
I've also found that 2 ginger capsules 3 times a day will knock out a cold, sinus infection and stomach problems really quick!

And eating crystalized ginger will knock out nausea and vomiting too. It's great for motion sickness too.

pelathais 11-30-2007 10:57 PM

I try to take Vitamin B supplements. I'm not very religious about it, but with the crazy diet that I'm forced to follow and the crazy schedule I need all the help I can get. I just picked up a bottle of fish oil because it occurs to me that I haven't been eating much fish. These tabs are huge! Like little sardines themselves.

I think the schedule is the worst culprit of all. We make so many compromises just to keep a schedule.

Walk and Talk 12-01-2007 12:19 AM

Clean out them arteries
 
In the mid-90s, after some tests, I was told my arteries were 50% blocked. I did not have medical insurance, so my wife and I put me on daily (at least two heaping tablespoons) granulated LECITHIN. (We purchase it at our local health food store.)

Two years ago the heart cath I received showed my arteries were completely clean and clear.

We heard about this from a lady that owned a health food store in Burien Washington. She said her husband found that his arteries were clogged pretty bad. She said she and he had him start on daily Vit C, garlic, and Lecithin. She said when he finally died (from other causes), the autopsy showed his arteries were completely clean.

Walk and Talk 12-01-2007 12:23 AM

Colodial Silver
 
We make our own colloidal silver. At the first sign of a cold, sore throat, flu, having ingested bad food, etc. we make up a quart of the stuff and slowly drink it down over the next maybe 4 hours. If we catch the problem quick enough, it always stops the problem dead in its tracks.

Sore throats and colds need the stuff held in the mouth and throat for at least 6 minutes prior to swallowing it.

HeavenlyOne 12-01-2007 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Walk and Talk (Post 315513)
We make our own colloidal silver. At the first sign of a cold, sore throat, flu, having ingested bad food, etc. we make up a quart of the stuff and slowly drink it down over the next maybe 4 hours. If we catch the problem quick enough, it always stops the problem dead in its tracks.

Sore throats and colds need the stuff held in the mouth and throat for at least 6 minutes prior to swallowing it.

I'd like to know more about this. My mother, who is a sucker for every 'sounds too good to be true but I believe it' promotion there is, recently came into contact with a company that produces this stuff, and they claim it cures everything from acne to MRSA.

Walk and Talk 12-01-2007 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 315543)
I'd like to know more about this. My mother, who is a sucker for every 'sounds too good to be true but I believe it' promotion there is, recently came into contact with a company that produces this stuff, and they claim it cures everything from acne to MRSA.

Silver is used in water filters to "purify" the water. It is reported that NASA has the astronauts using it somehow. The colloidal part is what allows it to pass into the blood easily and get to the other areas of the body.

Making your own silver is so easy. However, the places that sell it in small quantities, sell it for outrages prices.

Yes, it is reported to be helpful for most anything that ails you. I can't answer to that. It does help with colds and sore throats, and when I've eaten bad food (almost instantly). YET, it is reported to not hurt any of the bodies good bugs (in the gut, etc.)

Silver is reported to kill most bad bugs after only 6 minutes of contact. Therefore the need to keep the silver in the mouth and throat for at least 6 minutes before swallowing. You just frequently repeat this when fighting something.

Materials needed:
  • * Jar (quart is what we use)
    * "Pure" silver wire (stainless silver will work if needed)
    * Three 9-volt batteries (attach two to the plus and minus posts of the third)
    * 2 wires with clips on one end of each of the wires, for attaching to a 9 volt battery (found at Radio Shack), and an alligator clip on the other end (also found at RS).
    * Hot/warm water with a pinch or two of salt in it (more if you are using distilled water, less if you are using regular water) Stir to mix in the salt. (We don't like using city water with lots of added chemicals.) The water should not taste salty.
When hooked up, you will almost instantly see a grey/white cloud coming off one of the silver wires. Let this process continue until the water is cloudy with a white cloud - cloudy enough to have difficulty seeing something on the opposite side of the jar. If the cloud begins to turn dark, stop the process. It is still usable, but you don't really want it dark.

The process usually takes from 20 - 40 minutes, start to completion. It depends on the water temperature, amount of minerals in the water (thus the salt), and the battery power level.

DON'T let the wires touch each other. (We try to keep the wires on opposite sides of the inside of the jar.)

We go to our local jeweler and purchase about 18 inches of "pure" silver wire. We purchase the wire that is not real thin - rather stout. Silver wire used in this fashion will last you a long time.

We get a quart jar with hot/warm water in it - and the 1/8 teaspoon of salt in it; cut the silver wire in half; put the two silver wires into the jar opposite each other, and loop the wires up and over and down the lip and side of the outside of the jar (This gives you wire inside the jar (to the bottom) and securely outside the jar to attach the alligator clips to.)

It is reported that people that drink gallons of this stuff will turn permanently purple (Old time royalty were called "blue bloods" because they drank from silver mugs.) However, experiments show you need to drink copious amounts of colloidal silver over a long time to have this result showing on your skin. Consider this - silver is in your water filter. How much water have you consumed from your water filter? Have you turned blue yet? Personally, if I am fighting something, I will drink 2-3 quarts daily, for a week or two if necessary (rarely if ever necessary) - until the problem is gone.

Keep your made silver water in a dark place (cupboard ???). Sunlight will turn it dark and slightly bitter pretty quickly. I recommend you use it within a day or two most.

A slight amount of black residue in the water is normal and will not be harmful when consumed. I like to skim off, and toss, the black stuff - just because.

We use a green scrubby from the sink to rub the resultant crud off the silver wires after each use.

Retailers will tell you a million reasons why you should purchase from them, but this home brew method is all that is needed. AND, it will save you LOTS of money.

BTW - some people like to use 4 9-volt batteries, but the original suggested way is with 3.

[[((BTW - In my experience; it is my understanding, the best way to quickly cure most cancers and most anything else is with Rife Frequencies. There are MANY testimonies of people sent home to die, that have been brought back to complete health fairly quickly with the use of a rife machine. Just do a Google search on Rife Frequencies))]]

pelathais 12-01-2007 02:29 AM

Stan Jones, a Libertarian candidate for the US Senate from Montanta drank colliodal silver from a home made electrical kit. The press called him the "true blue" candidate.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2297471.stm

Titus2Mom 12-01-2007 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 315075)
Good rty but we've eaten venison as the main stay red meat for years and my husband has high cholesterol. BUT!! If he ate beef it would probably be HIGHER!! :)

They say high cholesterol is often the result of too little fiber.

There are genetic factors too.

The book I mentioned, has listed with each item, contraindications and tells you not to take certain herbs if you are taking other specific herbs or traditional meds.

It has a huge section on high cholesterol. All sorts of herbs that help, things to change in your diet, etc. I originally found it at my library, and bought a copy from amazon for about $8 or so.

My hubby had high cholesterol, and I know that adding garlic and mushrooms to your diet can help too.

ILG 12-01-2007 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 315463)
Genetics also has a lot to do with it.

But I'm glad he eats venison!

Just butchered our second deer this year today. I'm glad it's almost done except for the grinding and packaging!!

ILG 12-01-2007 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walk and Talk (Post 315513)
We make our own colloidal silver. At the first sign of a cold, sore throat, flu, having ingested bad food, etc. we make up a quart of the stuff and slowly drink it down over the next maybe 4 hours. If we catch the problem quick enough, it always stops the problem dead in its tracks.

Sore throats and colds need the stuff held in the mouth and throat for at least 6 minutes prior to swallowing it.

How do you make it?

Brother Price 12-01-2007 01:15 PM

As of late, I have not been eating well myself. And, because of this, I am having to turn to some supplements to help regulate my sugar, along side my normal meds.

Cinnamon and red yeast Rice can be good, taken separately, for maintaining sugar. Vinegar works well on blood pressure.

Walk and Talk 12-01-2007 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 315827)
How do you make it?

Back a couple posts, I went into detail about how to make it. I hope it helps.

philjones 12-01-2007 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 315460)
Uh, Ferd. Maybe you should lay off the tea for now, eh?










:D

He was only trying to ensure that he got GooG results.:santathumb


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