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Cindy 12-24-2007 12:23 PM

Jesus anointed with the Holy Ghost
 
Acts 10:38
How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Luke 4:1
And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness.


I really find these scriptures fascinating. It is my understanding Jesus power came from the Holy Ghost. Was Jesus the first Apostolic?

Joelel 12-24-2007 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 336330)
Acts 10:38
How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Luke 4:1
And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness.


I really find these scriptures fascinating. It is my understanding Jesus power came from the Holy Ghost. Was Jesus the first Apostolic?

Yes

Truly Blessed 12-24-2007 10:49 PM

No, He never spoke in tongues! :)

Joelel 12-25-2007 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed (Post 336571)
No, He never spoke in tongues! :)

Guess you don't know what the word apostolic means.Apostolic don't mean to speak with tongues.

Cindy 12-26-2007 09:00 AM

Was Jesus baptized in his own name?

Truly Blessed 12-26-2007 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Joelel (Post 336765)
Guess you don't know what the word apostolic means.Apostolic don't mean to speak with tongues.

It was TIC, hence the smiley. Tell some Apostolics that! The Roman Catholic Church considers itself Apostolic.

crakjak 12-26-2007 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 337032)
Was Jesus baptized in his own name?

Of course not, he was baptized in John's name, because John being a respected rabbi confirmed Jesus to the masses by acknowledging that He came from God, therefore they should "hear ye Him".

Falla39 12-26-2007 10:31 AM

Jesus anointed with the Holy Ghost.
 
Jesus was our example! He was baptized to "fulfill all righteousness".

Jesus is the measure of the "temple of the Living God". When we

look into the "Mirror" (The Word of God), and see HIM, we will have

become! Meanwhile we are becoming...like unto His glorious Body.

Meanwhile:

Write on the parchment of my soul today;
The message that You'd wish, my life to say.
I'm weary with my way, it's Your's I must find,
So mold me and bend me, not my will but Thine!

Create in me, Your Image, O, Lord,
Let me be all You've dreamed I could be.
And when You have finished Your work, Lord, in me,
I pray that JESUS is all they can see.

Often I've reached for this world and it's gain,
Each time to find out, it brought only pain.
I've finally learned that Your Way, Lord, is best,
And with the learning has brought peace and rest.

The words to this beautiful song was written by Sis. Joan Ewing,

and sung so beautifully by her husband, Bro. Merle Ewing.

I have loved it because it expresses the desire of my heart to

be like Jesus!

Blessings,

Falla39

mfblume 01-01-2008 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed (Post 336571)
No, He never spoke in tongues! :)

Wait a second...

Matthew 27:46 KJV And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

;)

Sam 01-01-2008 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 337049)
Of course not, he was baptized in John's name, because John being a respected rabbi confirmed Jesus to the masses by acknowledging that He came from God, therefore they should "hear ye Him".

Jesus was baptized "in John's name" because John witnessed the baptism.
Some of Jesus' early disciples were first disciples of John (ref John 1:35-42) so they had also been baptized in John's name. Is there any record that they were later re-baptized by Jesus?

Sam 01-01-2008 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 342772)
Wait a second...

Matthew 27:46 KJV And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

;)

Some of the old-timers in Pentecost used verses like that where Jesus is quoted as having spoken in Aramaic and said that these verses showed that Jesus spoke with tongues. If I remember correctly, I think Joel Hemphill stated that also.

mfblume 01-01-2008 12:12 PM

Sincere question: Why would we say Jesus was baptized in John's name simply because John baptized Him?

I would say he was simply baptized. No name was invoked. It was for righteousness' sake. Baptizing in a NAME is invoking the power of that name. John's name had no power to invoke!

mfblume 01-01-2008 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 342787)
Some of the old-timers in Pentecost used verses like that where Jesus is quoted as having spoken in Aramaic and said that these verses showed that Jesus spoke with tongues. If I remember correctly, I think Joel Hemphill stated that also.

I was not that serious about that, but I do consider it a possibility.

Sam 01-01-2008 12:13 PM

38 How Jesus (as God) anointed Jesus (as man) of Nazareth with the Spirit of Jesus and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for Jesus (as God) was with Jesus (as man).

Sam 01-01-2008 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 342789)
Sincere question: Why would we say Jesus was baptized in John's name simply because John baptized Him?
...

Baptism/mikveh at that time was a triple self-immersion.
John witnessed Jesus' baptism/mikveh so it would be said that Jesus was baptized in the name of John.

Sam 01-01-2008 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 342791)
I was not that serious about that, but I do consider it a possibility.

Some say there is a possibility that King Hezekiah prayed in tongues 700 years BC because of the wording of Isaiah 38:14

Bro-Larry 01-05-2008 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 342793)
38 How Jesus (as God) anointed Jesus (as man) of Nazareth with the Spirit of Jesus and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for Jesus (as God) was with Jesus (as man).

Bro Clinton, I'd say you are spinning that one. :search:scripture lololl

Bro-Larry 01-05-2008 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 342791)
I was not that serious about that, but I do consider it a possibility.

Bro Blume, I used to teach that Jesus spoke with tongues. but I'm not sure, so I don't teach that anymore. If he was speaking in a tongue that he did not know then it would be a valid doctrine. There is some doubt, in my mind, about it being Aramaic, because those that heard him did not understand it.

Either way, I don't think it's something to be contentious over.

Bro-Larry 01-05-2008 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 337032)
Was Jesus baptized in his own name?

Jesus' baptism and His annointing by the Holy Ghost occurred at the same event.

John said, "He that sent me to baptize .... said to me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on.......is the Son of God."
Jn 1:33-34


This was John's personal sign to identify the Christ.

Falla39 01-05-2008 05:47 PM

Could this be the "anointing" of the Most Holy! Wasn't Jesus the temple

or "dwelling place of the Most Holy" while on earth. The Holy Place would

no doubt be where God dwells. Now He dwells in us, if so be the Spirit of

Christ dwell in you. Not man made temples made with hands.

Just some thoughts!

Blessings,

Falla39

Cindy 01-05-2008 06:49 PM

Yes ma'am I believe that is right.

Bro-Larry 01-07-2008 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big-larry (Post 348867)
Jesus' baptism and His annointing by the Holy Ghost occurred at the same event.

John said, "He that sent me to baptize .... said to me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on.......is the Son of God."
Jn 1:33-34

This was John's personal sign to identify the Christ.



Jesus had lived 30 years and never did one miracle. Why?

Because He couldn't. He did not have the power to do those things, until He was anointed of the Holy Ghost. Isa 61:1. If God could have done those things as God, without operating through some man born of a woman, then Jesus would not have had to come as a man.

Jesus ministered as a man, anointed of the Holy Ghost, and He stood in the office of a prophet. He did not minister as GOD. AS I mentioned above, If He could have destroyed the works of the devil, as GOD, he would not have had to become a man. Jn 5:27.

Why does God have to operate through a man, born in the Earth, and born of a woman? Because God had set those limits on Himself when He gave mankind dominion of all the Earth in Genesis 1:26.

Joelel 01-08-2008 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed (Post 337035)
It was TIC, hence the smiley. Tell some Apostolics that! The Roman Catholic Church considers itself Apostolic.

Yes they do but are not.

Main Entry: ap·os·tol·ic
Pronunciation: \ˌa-pə-ˈstä-lik\
Function: adjective
Date: 13th century
1 a: of or relating to an apostle b: of, relating to, or conforming to the teachings of the New Testament apostles
2 a: of or relating to a succession of spiritual authority from the apostles held (as by Roman Catholics, Anglicans, and Eastern Orthodox) to be perpetuated by successive ordinations of bishops and to be necessary for valid sacraments and orders b: papal
— apos·to·lic·i·ty \ə-ˌpäs-tə-ˈli-sə-tē\ noun

Joelel 01-08-2008 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 342772)
Wait a second...

Matthew 27:46 KJV And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

;)

Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? is hebrew for My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? NOT TONGUES

Joelel 01-08-2008 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 342780)
Jesus was baptized "in John's name" because John witnessed the baptism.
Some of Jesus' early disciples were first disciples of John (ref John 1:35-42) so they had also been baptized in John's name. Is there any record that they were later re-baptized by Jesus?

John didn't baptize in his name,he only said.

Acts19
[4] Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus

Also please note to those who think baptism and repentance is two different things,it says hear baptism is the baptism of repentance.

Joelel 01-08-2008 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 342787)
Some of the old-timers in Pentecost used verses like that where Jesus is quoted as having spoken in Aramaic and said that these verses showed that Jesus spoke with tongues. If I remember correctly, I think Joel Hemphill stated that also.

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http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/poly/mat027.htm

Joelel 01-08-2008 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 342789)
Sincere question: Why would we say Jesus was baptized in John's name simply because John baptized Him?

I would say he was simply baptized. No name was invoked. It was for righteousness' sake. Baptizing in a NAME is invoking the power of that name. John's name had no power to invoke!

Right

1faith 01-08-2008 04:05 AM

According to the dictionary apostolic 1)could relate to an apostole or the teachings of the New Testament apostoles. 2) relating to the succesion of spiritual authority from apostles, or papal (apostolicity).

An apostle is someone sent on a mission to preach the gospel and made up esp. of Christ's 12 original disciples and Paul, b) the first prominent Christian missionary to a region or group 2) one who initiates a great moral reform or first advocates an improtant belief or system 3) the highest ecclessitical official in some churchorganizations

So....let's see Jesus did have a mission, perhaps one could say he was the first apostolic although I usually associate apostolic with his followers.

1faith

Falla39 01-08-2008 06:23 AM

Jesus anointed with the Holy Ghost
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big-larry (Post 351045)
Jesus had lived 30 years and never did one miracle. Why?

Because He couldn't. He did not have the power to do those things, until He was anointed of the Holy Ghost. Isa 61:1. If God could have done those things as God, without operating through some man born of a woman, then Jesus would not have had to come as a man.

Jesus ministered as a man, anointed of the Holy Ghost, and He stood in the office of a prophet. He did not minister as GOD. AS I mentioned above, If He could have destroyed the works of the devil, as GOD, he would not have had to become a man. Jn 5:27.

Why does God have to operate through a man, born in the Earth, and born of a woman? Because God had set those limits on Himself when He gave mankind dominion of all the Earth in Genesis 1:26.

Big Larry,

Very good! In the fulness of time, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman,

born under the law, to fulfill God's Great Redemption Plan.


The law was given because of transgression, until the SEED, Jesus Christ

could come. God didn't say to Abraham, to seeds many but to that ONE Seed

and that ONE SEED was Christ (The Anointed One). God show-cased His Son,

a man born of a woman, as our example. He was obedient to his earthly

parents and later obedient to the death of the cross. It didn't start with the

cross. It led to the cross!!!


Daniel speaks of the anointing of the most holy. How much holier can you

get than with THE Holy God (Spirit) fully inside you. Jesus SAID and DID ONLY

the things the Father (God, Spirit,Deity) told him to. He was totally submitted

to His Father. Jesus was totally Spirit led. We need to be the same.


After the incident when he was twelve years old, he submitted to Mary and

Joseph, and grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God AND man.

God (Spirit) was showing man the process. through Jesus. He was sinless

from the foundation of the world. God was showing mankind how to live by

His Word (Son). God showed the world how to live, in and through His Son.


Obey your father and mother (earthly) that that days may be long. Children

are to obey. If they don't. parents should correct or discipline their children.

Train up! Earthly parents are to correct their children. God corrects or

chastens adults.

Blessings,

Falla39

Joelel 01-08-2008 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1faith (Post 351181)
According to the dictionary apostolic 1)could relate to an apostole or the teachings of the New Testament apostoles. 2) relating to the succesion of spiritual authority from apostles, or papal (apostolicity).

An apostle is someone sent on a mission to preach the gospel and made up esp. of Christ's 12 original disciples and Paul, b) the first prominent Christian missionary to a region or group 2) one who initiates a great moral reform or first advocates an improtant belief or system 3) the highest ecclessitical official in some churchorganizations

So....let's see Jesus did have a mission, perhaps one could say he was the first apostolic although I usually associate apostolic with his followers.

1faith

Yes,to make it simple,apostolic means to teach the same teaching as the apostles.

MrsMcD 01-08-2008 01:16 PM

If Jesus didn't need to speak in tongues, why do we need to speak in tongues?

Bro-Larry 01-08-2008 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 336330)
Was Jesus the first Apostolic?

Yes, Cindy. Jesus is the first Apostle. An Apostle is a "sent one". He is the cornerstone, the capstone, which is the top stone of a pyramid. He is the first level of Apostleship. He was sent to recover mankind out of the snare (trap) of the devil. He was sent to destroy the works of the devil.

The next level of Apostles is the twelve, plus Paul, who was one born out of due season. You had to have actually seen Christ, in order to be accounted in this level of Apostles. These apostles were sent to make disciples of all men.

The third level of Apostleship consists of "God called" men and women, sent to places where there is no church and start one. These are people who have special abilities to handle finances and gifts of administration. They then turn those churches over to elders to continue the work, while they themselves go on to start another new work. This is the Office of Apostle that is set in the Church today.


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