Where are all the Acts 2:38 folks (3-steppers)??
 

I am seeing less and less of the traditional Acts 2:38 believers posting here. Who is left that still believes that it takes obeying Acts 2:38 in its completion to be saved??


Is this the beginning of the end for this forum being an Apostolic forum?? Have we gone charismatic?? Is the fat lady singing??

They are busy removing their idol, err, Christmas tree from their homes.

No, but really. I think they are tired of going in circles with the Bapticostals. One group is not going to persuade the other. It kinda gets old, ya know? No new ideas. No new arguments. Same ol' same ol'.

One side believes they are walking the 'old paths'. The other side says 'wait, but our founders believed that the baptists was saved.' etc etc

BTW,
I believe it takes ACTS 2:38 in completion to be saved. I believe it is the fulfillment of John 3:5. I don't see a better interpretation of John 3:5 than that.

But, I just have questions that I can't seem to find the answers to. No big deal. Life moves on, or it should.

I'm here.

:horn

agree 100%, the arguing gets old after awhile. I think everyone should preach what they believe and let God confirm the message by fire or annointing. I'm a die hard 3 stepper and no amount of grammatical dissection is going to change that. As if Peter were concerned with grammar, I think he was concerned with the manifestation of the HG. jmo

I'm with you on this one:star

Blessings, Rhonda

They got tired of being called Papists, Mormons, sacramentalists and baptismal regenerationalists and left is my guess

I don't have the foggiest notion of what you are talking about...

First, "obeying Acts 2:38 in it's completion" does not indicate that one is saved.

I can name some, but I won't, who have done all of the things some of us believe are necessary, and are as far from God as one can get.

Second, how do we know if someone has "gone charismatic?!"

Third, I don't feel like singing, so just what ARE you talking about?!

I'm still here but considering a break in the new year.

Yep, that's one of the reasons I'm taking a break. :santathumb

A lot of people have been persuaded that "exclusivism" is wrong and have sought a deeper more meaningful relationship with Jesus Christ as a result.

I was one of the dogmatic "3 Steppers" for most of my adult life. It took years of study to loosen its grip on my mind. Then, one day when I sort of "woke up" and looked around, I realized that maintaining the "3 Stepper" way wasn't doing me any good and it was obviously hurting its loudest proponents.

How can you ask, "Is this the beginning of the end for this forum being an Apostolic forum??" ???

Like Berkeley pointed out in a rather off handed manner, the pioneers of the Apostolic Faith movement weren't "3 Stepper" exclusivists anyway.

I'm still here... though I don't bother argueing with the saved by grace calvinites .

Ain't name calling fun! ;)

Thad is an "antagonizer?" From what I read of his doctrine it seems he's pretty much committed to the Acts 2:38 way of life.

"Saved by grace" was the primary theme of the Wesleyan and Holiness movements. Not to mention a rather important aspect of the Gospel itself.

You don't believe we are saved by grace? Hmmmm...

Acts 15:11

11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
KJV

And who are the Calvinites on this board?!

I'm with ya brother! Us "19 steps for men" and "65 steps for women" will be with ya to the end!

I joined this forum just a few months ago, I have posted on several threads and have found the typical response from most on here is "my traditional way of believing is wrong". I have looked at several other threads here and see a moving from what true apostolic has always been to something that resembles an over all attitude that says "if you don't want to live like you should then twist the word to live like you want". ( That very statement got me called "an old time all going to hell self righteous traditionalist") I have thought about e-mailing admin or posting my opinion on here but figured it would do more damage than help so I simply don't come here much anymore. Since you have started a thread on the subject I will go ahead and post. ( Then duck , because the firestorm thats coming this thread I'm not sure can be handled by the server)
The Apostolic beliefs of this forum as posted in the "Welcome" thread are no where to be seen within the forum itself. After much searching and reading I have found most all of the Acts:238ers have been "degraded to dwell in the Fellowship, playground and more "softer" threads simply because they are being run out of debate and theological threads. While the "new crowd" says its because they can't stand on their own any more, most I talk to say it is because people are either open to discussion or they are not, if they are not then its all about arguing. That is the other thing I have noticed, you may see a "3 stepper" make a post or two and thats it, while the opposition makes insults. It's not hard to tell the difference in beliefs just looking at the attitude in the post.

Yes stmatthew, your forum has become segregated, The 3 steppers have opted to the occasional post in discusion while the new crowd argues , fights, insults and bickers over beliefs. The 3-steppers post scripture and believes what it says, the others favor scholars and websites to back their beliefs. The 3-steppers post with obvious love birth from a heart filled with the Holy Spirit. The others throw subtile disgraces that tear at ones spirit and reak of hate and despise.

The next few lines I wish you to read understanding that I am typing them with the utmost respect for what the forum was once built on.
I am also a member of UPCI forums and Apostolic forums alike. I see some on this forum posting on other forums, yet, if I were to copy and paste some of their post from this forum onto other forums, they would be banned from those. So that tells me alot about that person. I see things on here I don't see on any other forum that stands on Acts 2-38 as the doctrine of salvation. Some where in the give a little, take a little, all has been forsaken. I will continue to peek in and read and post on occasion, but this is not one of the sites I come to on a daily basis and I have yet to recommend it to fellow bro. and sis. Sorry.

Just my opinion, God bless you all in the name of Jesus.

#1 killer of children .. drugs
#1 killer of adults .... cancer
#1 killer of christians . COMPROMISE

We are saved through active faith... faith without works is dead... Jesus told Peter he has the keys. Peter preached a sermon to a bunch of people who mocked the Holy Ghost falling on the Disciples. When they realized that they were mocking God, they were pricked in their hearts. Peter, sensitive to the Spirit communing within him, continued preaching... repent, be baptized in Jesus name, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Active faith... even Abraham was imputed righteous only after God tested his faith and showed active faith.

I still believe in Acts 2:38 salvation, however I take exception with "3 steps" I believe it is "one step" all inclusive!

Death-Repentance, Burial-Water Baptism In Jesus Name-Resurrection-Holy Ghost
Infilling Evidenced by speaking in an unknown tongue as the Spirit gives the utterance!

All other possible modes of salvation are just idle speculation.

Well Matt, I think you can take a look at the first 2 pages of this tHread and find the reasons behind parts of the exodus.

"I know some 3 steppers who are as far from God as you can be"

"19 steps for men 65 steps for women"

and given a little bit of time, I suspect there will be more of the molotov launchers to prove the point even further.

Same here, even posted it once. Mockery was the response I got. Yet I will endure being called a "three-stepper" since that is the terminology some enjoy using.

God Bless you .

Isn't it amazing how this attitude permeates the apostolic movement?
Actually poking fun in a condescending manner at the idea of "saved by grace".

Really, it is ignorance.

This sums up what I have noticed. I have only been active here for a few weeks, though have been associated with it from the very begining and before from the beginning of FCF, I have been more active here than I ever was at any of the incarnations of FCF.

But overall I agree with Scotty's assesment.

I am with Scotty. Bro, you did a pretty salty job of nailing it.

St Matthew please take the time to read and consider.

Sadly that is not what the poster meant but your conditioning has further proved the point.


we dont talk to each other, we talk at each other. It really is bad form.

Is it?

Was Moses & the Israelites saved when they came to the Red Sea & needed to cross over, or did they have to do something to help secure thier Salvation, like Moses stretching out his hand & the people walking over?

You see it all throughout the Bible that God would do something for his people if they would obey in response to what God had said he would do for them.

Shucks people even when someone receives the Holy Ghost they are Worshiping God (works) in response to his faith in his promise of the gift
of the Holy Ghost.

It isn't a one sided relationship--that's how covenants work something is required of both parties.

Doesn't negate Grace or Faith at all!

I agree... a lot of talking at each other

I think you have nailed it.

I will add this,

#1 killer of good hearted people returning to discuss relevant honest issues-

A LACK OF RESPECT FOR ANOTHER'S VIEW!

Actually I was referring to the post that preceeded this one about "saved by grace" being Calvinist.

Where are all the Acts 2:38 folks (3-steppers)??
 

I Thess. 5:21, tells us to "Prove (test) all things; hold fast that which is
good".


When our eldest grandson (who will be married four years in a few days)

and his wife, have our first great-grandchild, it will began the sixth (6th)

generation that I have lived to see the truth of the Acts 2:38 message

proved!


I believe with all my heart the story of how my paternal grandmother, who

was a devout Methodist, walking in all the light she knew, heard the message

of Acts 2:38, checked it out in the Word, believed and obeyed it. My late

father who heard this message, along with my mother, also heard, believed

and obeyed this message, That was in the mid-30's and in the late 1950's,

I also received the Holy Spirit that they had received earlier.


Our children, who were born from 1960 until 1975, also have all believed and

obeyed this message and all of our grandchildren who are old enough to

understand have also believed and obeyed. All are active in church and the

two eldest are in the ministry. The oldest grandson is a licensed minister of

this gospel and his brother three years younger, will be licensed shortly.


Glory, glory, hallelujah, HIS TRUTH is marching ON and ON and ON........!!

Thank you, Lord Jesus! I would highly recommend it to anyone! God is NOT

the author of confusion!


Incidentally, I had never heard of 3-stepper until this forum. Who started

labeling??


Blessings,

Falla39

Well admin, sounds like the congregation is calling for a
"revival"

:yahoo:yahoo:clap:clap:clap:woohoo:woohoo:woohoo:a men:amen

:itsover

I know what you were refering to.

One more Acts 2:38 believer here! WOO-HOO!

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Falla, that is a wonderful testimony! You are blessed!
What a rich heritage!

Sister Falla, My maternal Great Grandmother was the first in our family to come to this Truth. She won her mother to the Lord, and my Grandmother (her daughter) as well. My Mother was raised Apostolic, and now I am raising the sixth generation of Apostolics in our family!

Granny Hammock was Methodist also!

re·viv·al http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/g...una/thinsp.png–noun 1.restoration to life, consciousness, vigor, strength, etc. 2.restoration to use, acceptance, or currency: the revival of old customs. 3.a new production of an old play. (love this one.....In other words we need to have an encore production of the Day of Penntecost!!!!!)

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Great Ferd, I stand on my original comment because aside from the statement made here about "saving grace" and Calviniist, I have heard similar comments for,oh going on 27 years now.