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IAintMovin 01-04-2008 11:04 AM

WOW>>>>>>>Worth the Read.............
 
I seldom ever read forwards in email, but for some reason I read this one......it was sent by DQ...........does give you something to think about..........


Have a Great Day All..............




Don't Mock Jesus

Death is certain but the Bible speaks about untimely death! Make a personal reflection about this.....
Very interesting, read until the end.....It is written in the Bible (Galatians 6:7):

"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Here are some men and women who mocked God :

John Lennon (Singer):
Some years before, during his interview with an American Magazine, he said: "Christianity will end, it will disappear. I do not have to argue about that. I am certain. Jesus was ok, but his subjects were too simple, Today we are more famous than Him" (1966). Lennon, after saying that the Beatles were more famous than Jesus Christ, was shot six times.

Tancredo Neves (President of Brazil ):
During the Presidential campaign, h e said if he got 500,000 votes from his party, not even God would remove him from Presidency. Sure he got the votes, but he got sick a day before being made
President, then he died.

Cazuza (Bi-sexual Brazilian composer, singer and poet):
During a show in Canecio ( Rio de Janeiro ), while smoking his cigarette, he puffed out some smoke into the air and said: "God, that's for you." He died at the age of 32 of AIDS in a horrible manner.

The man who built the Titanic
After the construction of Titanic, a reporter asked him how safe the Titanic would be. With an ironic tone he said: "Not even God can sink it" The result: I think you all know what happened to the Titanic

Marilyn Monroe (Actress)
She was visited by Billy Graham during a presentation of a show. He said the Spirit of God had sent him to preach to her. After hearing what the Preacher had to say, she said: "I don't need your Jesus".
A week later, she was found dead in her apartment

Bon Scott (Singer)
The ex-vocalist of the AC/DC. On one of his 1979 songs he sang: "Don't stop me, I'm going down all the way, down the highway to hell". On the 19th of February 1980, Bon Scott was found dead, he had
been choked by his own vomit.

Campinas (IN 2005)
In Campinas, Brazil a group of friends, drunk, went to pick up a friend.....The mother accompanied her to the car and was so worried about the drunkenness of her friends and she said to the daughter holding
her hand, who was already seated in the car: "My Daughter, Go With God And May He Protect You.." She responded: "Only If He (God) travels in the trunk, cause inside here.....it's already full " Hours later, news came by th at they had been involved in a fatal accident, everyone had died, the car could not be recognized what type of car it had been, but surprisingly, the trunk was intact. The police said there was no way the trunk could have remained intact. To their surprise, inside the trunk was a crate of eggs, none was broken.

Christine Hewitt Jamaican Journalist and entertainer Said the Bible (Word of God) was the worst book ever written. In June 2006 she was found burnt beyond recognition in her motor vehicle .

LadyChocolate 01-04-2008 11:10 AM

Terribly sad... and if people only realized that God is not out to get them but give them peace and love... To fill a void that will never be filled by the things of this world! Sad...

Rhoni 01-04-2008 11:46 AM

I think this is a truly typical cultish way to say God will punish you for thinking contrary to my belief system. Got enough of that through the years.

Apprehended 01-04-2008 04:02 PM

A man of God was falsely accused for a crime that he did not do. After spending two years in Prison at a Federal Prison near Texarkana, he was exonorated and set free.

While he was in the prison, he prayed all the time. The supervisor saw the man's sincerity as he walked around with uplifted hands praying and ministering to other prisoners, many of whom he led to the Lord. Finally, the warden or the supervision gave him an area all of his own where he can pray. It was a big oak tree near the corner of the yard far away from the other population. He walked around that tree praying until he wore a rut in the ground.

There was a big man in the prison that had harrassed him almost from the beginning. One day this man walked out there where this man of God was praying to speak to him. He said to him, "Here is what I think of your Jesus," as he drew a cross in the dirt near the rut with his shoe. He then cursed Jesus and spat on the cross that he drew in the ground.

The man of God said to him, "Sir, I wish you would not do that. God has your very life in his hands and you may see the judgements of God very quickly." The man then cursed him again and spat on the cross again. Again the man of God told him that he is in severe and immediate danger.

Just then, the man of God told me that lightening began shooting through his body that jumped out of him and hit the man in the head. The lightening split the man in two from the crown of his hiead right down the middle even dividing his private parts in two. The man was slaughtered and butchered right there before him. When this happened, there were some men standing near and they were hit with the same lightening and fell dead too.

This was seen and recorded on Prison security cameras. Needless to say, the respect for this man of God soared among the prison population. Now for the rest of the story. The brother kept the tree for himself, praying and praising God with uplifted arms walking around the tree. Finally, prisoners began getting permission to walk out to the tree to get "saved." They were granted permission by the prison staff to go see the man of God, one by one. Many came.

One day, word was sent to the man of God that the Warden needed to see him. The man of God left the tree to see the him. He was then informed that he was being released and that he could go home. The man of God asked if he could be dismissed to go back to the tree once more. He was granted that permission. He went back to the tree, took off his shoes and tied them by the laces upon a limb. He later walked out of the prison barefooted.

After the man of God left the prison, many of the prisoners who had gotten saved got permission to visit the tree. The picture of what happened next appeared in the USA Today. Prisoners took off theri shoes and humg them alll over the big oak tree. The tree with all of those shoes tied up all over the tree was a sight to behold. The pictured that appeared in the USA Today captioned the tree as "The Praying Tree." A little of the story was told in the paper.

The Praying Tree. Dear God! We need a lot of praying trees. Alas, I doubt that we will see many of them anymore.

"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of an angry God."

"Fear him not who can destroy the body and can do no more. Yea, fear God who can fear destroy both body and soul in hell."

The story that I told you is true. I am well aware of it.

Rhoni 01-04-2008 05:55 PM

Now that one...I truly believe! Thank-you for sharing this with us. I believe God can take a very bad situation and use it for his glory and the salvation of not just the person it is happening to...but those who witness it.

Blessings, Rhoni

Bro-Larry 01-04-2008 09:34 PM

I believe that when someone rejects the work of Jesus, they expose themselves to attack from the one whose only intent is to steal, kill, and destroy. Jn 10:10

Timmy 01-05-2008 09:05 AM

Quote:

The story that I told you is true. I am well aware of it.
Can you post some links? Names, dates?

marthaolivia 01-05-2008 01:34 PM

Kathy Griffin should really be repenting now after the remarks she made about Jesus..

Arphaxad 01-05-2008 04:02 PM

I used to mock God before I was saved. I'm glad I didn't die in my sins. THANK YOU LORD FOR SAVING ME!!!!!!!



ARPH :doggyrun

Timmy 01-06-2008 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 348365)
Can you post some links? Names, dates?

Bump.

IAintMovin 01-06-2008 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 347239)
I think this is a truly typical cultish way to say God will punish you for thinking contrary to my belief system. Got enough of that through the years.

Somehow I am not surprised by your own cultish answer..........typical of the camp........



Apprehended 01-06-2008 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 348365)
Can you post some links? Names, dates?

Any name dropped or link posted would involved personalities from which, including Jesus himself, there would be a controversy ensued. It will become an us vs. them. It always happens.

However, you might refer to the USA Today sometime back in the 1980s for a little of the story. Consult the Texarkana prison video archives for the the other part of the story.

Timmy 01-07-2008 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 349528)
Any name dropped or link posted would involved personalities from which, including Jesus himself, there would be a controversy ensued. It will become an us vs. them. It always happens.

However, you might refer to the USA Today sometime back in the 1980s for a little of the story. Consult the Texarkana prison video archives for the the other part of the story.

The online archive of USA Today goes back only to 1987, and I can't find anything like this story. Was it before then? If you have the article, could you scan it?

Did it happen at the Federal Correctional Institution of Texarkana? Will they really give me access to their 20+ year old video archive?

Cindy 01-07-2008 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 350134)
The online archive of USA Today goes back only to 1987, and I can't find anything like this story. Was it before then? If you have the article, could you scan it?

Did it happen at the Federal Correctional Institution of Texarkana? Will they really give me access to their 20+ year old video archive?

That's the only fed prison in Texarkana. I don't know if that would be considered public record or not, so maybe not.

Timmy 01-07-2008 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 350140)
That's the only fed prison in Texarkana. I don't know if that would be considered public record or not, so maybe not.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Hoping there's some record of this incredible incident at the prison. The deaths of several prisoners on the same day would be a major event, requiring investigation etc.

Apprehended 01-07-2008 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 350134)
The online archive of USA Today goes back only to 1987, and I can't find anything like this story. Was it before then? If you have the article, could you scan it?

Did it happen at the Federal Correctional Institution of Texarkana? Will they really give me access to their 20+ year old video archive?

He was discharged in 1983, if I rightly recall. No, I did not keep a copy of the article.

It was a Tax evasion case for which he was exonorated and all properties confiscated was returned to him WITH AN APOLOGY from the IRS. It is said that the IRS never apologies to anyone. So yes, it was in a federal institution.

It was said that the struck man was hit by lightening as it was seen on surveillance cameras. However, there was not a cloud in the sky at the time.

But, if you were see a miracle would you believe God? No. Those who depend on miracles to believe God, never really come to believe him...only to just remain curious. Faith is based on the Word and not on some sensation.

DividedThigh 01-07-2008 11:59 AM

it is never a good idea to mock god, period, regardless of these stories being true, or even if they werent, dt:reaction

Apprehended 01-07-2008 12:04 PM

Look what happened to the boys who mocked Elisha. She bears made dinner out of those boys.

Look what happened to Herrod who accepted the praises of the people who said, "It is the voice of God, not of a man," Angel standing nearby struck him and he fell down being eat up with worms.

Many cases are illustrated in the Word.

Timmy 01-07-2008 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 350267)
But, if you were see a miracle would you believe God? No. Those who depend on miracles to believe God, never really come to believe him...only to just remain curious. Faith is based on the Word and not on some sensation.

It so happens that I do believe in God. Why would you think otherwise? But I agree that stories of miracles are not good support for belief. That's kinda my point, in fact. And if that's true, what is the point of these miraculous murders, if not to alert people to the danger of not believing?

If I'm not mistaken, the point of these stories (the ones on this thread, not all miracle stories) is that God will (or might) kill you if you mock Him or disrespect Him or disbelieve the people who claim to speak for Him. In other words, contrary to LadyChocolate's post, God is "out to get you". Toe the line, or else.

Timmy 01-09-2008 08:39 AM

I emailed the FCI Texarkana. The reply was that they have no knowledge of anything like this ever happening.

Apprehended, how and when did you learn of this incident? Did you ever see the USA Today article?

Timmy 01-09-2008 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 350313)
It so happens that I do believe in God. Why would you think otherwise? But I agree that stories of miracles are not good support for belief. That's kinda my point, in fact. And if that's true, what is the point of these miraculous murders, if not to alert people to the danger of not believing?

If I'm not mistaken, the point of these stories (the ones on this thread, not all miracle stories) is that God will (or might) kill you if you mock Him or disrespect Him or disbelieve the people who claim to speak for Him. In other words, contrary to LadyChocolate's post, God is "out to get you". Toe the line, or else.

Just noticed you said "believe God", not "believe in God", sorry. Same answer, though. I believe everything God has ever said!

Apprehended 01-09-2008 08:49 AM

Yes, I saw the USA Today article after it was told me. I found someone who kept some back copies of it. We went back through the stack that was a couple of weeks old. I asked the person, (a neighbor) if I could keep the paper which he granted me permission to keep. Unfortunately, I did not keep it.

The story of the deaths (not murder, mind you) of the prisoners was told by the man of God himself, and also verified to me in private by one of the prisoners that was "saved" and later released.

But, what is the point? You can either accept this as possible, or just reject it out of hand. There is no need to worry your mind over it. It you have trouble with this incident, you would have a great deal of trouble with many other incidents of modern times.

Timmy 01-09-2008 09:12 AM

It seems that a lot of folks are not bothered about whether a story like this one is actually true or not. (And yes, my belief is that this particular story is not true in all of its details. Most likely, it has been embellished a lot, and grew with the retellings. Not accusing you of anything, but the "man of God" has most likely done the embellishments. That's usually how it goes.)

As to whether this was murder, are you not implying that God indeed killed that mocker? Where did the lightning come from? The man of God himself? If so, it was a murder committed by that man of God. If it was from God, then God was the murderer. Was it a natural event (genuine lightning)? You went to some trouble to rule that out! ("However, there was not a cloud in the sky at the time.") So clearly, you think someone (whether God or that man) decided to end the mocker's life, obviously because of the mocking that he did. You don't call that murder?

I could go into the reasons I have my doubts about this story, if you like. But you probably shouldn't worry your mind over them! :winkgrin

Apprehended 01-09-2008 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 353009)
It seems that a lot of folks are not bothered about whether a story like this one is actually true or not. (And yes, my belief is that this particular story is not true in all of its details. Most likely, it has been embellished a lot, and grew with the retellings. Not accusing you of anything, but the "man of God" has most likely done the embellishments. That's usually how it goes.)

As to whether this was murder, are you not implying that God indeed killed that mocker? Where did the lightning come from? The man of God himself? If so, it was a murder committed by that man of God. If it was from God, then God was the murderer. Was it a natural event (genuine lightning)? You went to some trouble to rule that out! ("However, there was not a cloud in the sky at the time.") So clearly, you think someone (whether God or that man) decided to end the mocker's life, obviously because of the mocking that he did. You don't call that murder?

I could go into the reasons I have my doubts about this story, if you like. But you probably shouldn't worry your mind over them! :winkgrin

Timmy...

It seems that you are having a major problem.

Murder??? God does not murder! Neither would a natural bolt of lightening be MURDER. Good grief. Don't you know what murder is? God is not a murderer. The devil is a murderer.

The definition of MURDER for all who does not understand it is, the UNLAWFUL taking of human life.

Esther 01-09-2008 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 347691)
A man of God was falsely accused for a crime that he did not do. After spending two years in Prison at a Federal Prison near Texarkana, he was exonorated and set free.

While he was in the prison, he prayed all the time. The supervisor saw the man's sincerity as he walked around with uplifted hands praying and ministering to other prisoners, many of whom he led to the Lord. Finally, the warden or the supervision gave him an area all of his own where he can pray. It was a big oak tree near the corner of the yard far away from the other population. He walked around that tree praying until he wore a rut in the ground.

There was a big man in the prison that had harrassed him almost from the beginning. One day this man walked out there where this man of God was praying to speak to him. He said to him, "Here is what I think of your Jesus," as he drew a cross in the dirt near the rut with his shoe. He then cursed Jesus and spat on the cross that he drew in the ground.

The man of God said to him, "Sir, I wish you would not do that. God has your very life in his hands and you may see the judgements of God very quickly." The man then cursed him again and spat on the cross again. Again the man of God told him that he is in severe and immediate danger.

Just then, the man of God told me that lightening began shooting through his body that jumped out of him and hit the man in the head. The lightening split the man in two from the crown of his hiead right down the middle even dividing his private parts in two. The man was slaughtered and butchered right there before him. When this happened, there were some men standing near and they were hit with the same lightening and fell dead too.

This was seen and recorded on Prison security cameras. Needless to say, the respect for this man of God soared among the prison population. Now for the rest of the story. The brother kept the tree for himself, praying and praising God with uplifted arms walking around the tree. Finally, prisoners began getting permission to walk out to the tree to get "saved." They were granted permission by the prison staff to go see the man of God, one by one. Many came.

One day, word was sent to the man of God that the Warden needed to see him. The man of God left the tree to see the him. He was then informed that he was being released and that he could go home. The man of God asked if he could be dismissed to go back to the tree once more. He was granted that permission. He went back to the tree, took off his shoes and tied them by the laces upon a limb. He later walked out of the prison barefooted.

After the man of God left the prison, many of the prisoners who had gotten saved got permission to visit the tree. The picture of what happened next appeared in the USA Today. Prisoners took off theri shoes and humg them alll over the big oak tree. The tree with all of those shoes tied up all over the tree was a sight to behold. The pictured that appeared in the USA Today captioned the tree as "The Praying Tree." A little of the story was told in the paper.

The Praying Tree. Dear God! We need a lot of praying trees. Alas, I doubt that we will see many of them anymore.

"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of an angry God."

"Fear him not who can destroy the body and can do no more. Yea, fear God who can fear destroy both body and soul in hell."

The story that I told you is true. I am well aware of it.

Reminds me of a pulpit that was slipt into.

Apprehended 01-09-2008 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esther (Post 353037)
Reminds me of a pulpit that was slipt into.

Right.

One of these days I am going to get over there and look at that pulpit. RH said they put it aside where anyone can see it if they want to.

I've often wondered about that. I bet it was God's warning, "Repent or this day the kingdom is torn from you." The lightening strike and the bursting asunder of the pulpit was a sign.

I'm just glad that TT and RH got out of there alive.

But don't tell Timmy. He might want to investigate.

Timmy 01-09-2008 09:48 AM

If someone mocked me and I killed him, would that be murder? Of course! But God can do this, just because He's God, is that it? Is there anything that's not "lawful" for him to do?

The devil? Whom has the devil murdered? God, according to the Bible, has killed (whether you want to call it murder or not, that's up to you) millions of people. All the firstborn of Egypt, e.g. Uzzah, for steadying the ark, e.g. And He ordered his armies to slaughter entire cities, including children and babies.

You don't have a problem with any of that? And I have a serious problem?

Esther 01-09-2008 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 353046)
If someone mocked me and I killed him, would that be murder? Of course! But God can do this, just because He's God, is that it? Is there anything that's not "lawful" for him to do?

The devil? Whom has the devil murdered? God, according to the Bible, has killed (whether you want to call it murder or not, that's up to you) millions of people. All the firstborn of Egypt, e.g. Uzzah, for steadying the ark, e.g. And He ordered his armies to slaughter entire cities, including children and babies.

You don't have a problem with any of that? And I have a serious problem?

God can do anything He wants too. He is the boss. :)

Light 01-09-2008 10:26 AM

If this really happened it would have been in every news paper and on every TV station in the country.

Esther 01-09-2008 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 353088)
If this really happened it would have been in every news paper and on every TV station in the country.

You have more confidence in the media that I do.

Sarah 01-09-2008 10:34 AM

This was reported in a newspaper at least a decade ago.

Two men were in a boat, out on the lake.

One of the men, an attorney, stood, lifted his arms and said " if there's a God, let him strike me dead". That is exactly what happened. He was struck dead, by lightning.

The other man, who if I remember correctly, is also a lawyer, gave this account.

Mrs. LPW 01-09-2008 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 350277)
it is never a good idea to mock god, period, regardless of these stories being true, or even if they werent,

I am in complete agreement. The Titanic wasn't just a coincidence I'm sure... but God is also merciful and slow to anger...

True, not true, or embellished, I wouldn't want to mock God.

Apprehended 01-09-2008 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 353088)
If this really happened it would have been in every news paper and on every TV station in the country.

Your total confidence and complete trust in the media is quite remarkable. Seldom have I seen such total trust.

Some of us are closely familiar with the lightening bolt that came down in a Apostolic church in Houston, knocking preachers down, bursting the pulpit right in two. After investigation, it was reported by professionals that examined it that it that there was no NATURAL explanation for this to have happened.

Light...

There was not a peep in the media about it as far as I know.

Timmy 01-09-2008 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 353109)
I am in complete agreement. The Titanic wasn't just a coincidence I'm sure... but God is also merciful and slow to anger...

True, not true, or embellished, I wouldn't want to mock God.

Seriously? I mean you really think God killed thousands of people, because of the boasting of one man? Yikes!

Apprehended 01-09-2008 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah (Post 353104)
This was reported in a newspaper at least a decade ago.

Two men were in a boat, out on the lake.

One of the men, an attorney, stood, lifted his arms and said " if there's a God, let him strike me dead". That is exactly what happened. He was struck dead, by lightning.

The other man, who if I remember correctly, is also a lawyer, gave this account.

Reminds me of the scoffer that got cancer in his tongue and throat and died from it after scoffing about the testimony of a sister that was healed from cancer of the tongue and throat saying, "if that be true, then let God strike me with it."

He prayed for his healing but there was none. He died in that condition.

Timmy 01-09-2008 11:00 AM

My son's pet bunny bit me and died.

Mrs. LPW 01-09-2008 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 353114)
Seriously? I mean you really think God killed thousands of people, because of the boasting of one man? Yikes!

He's done it before...

Timmy 01-09-2008 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 353123)
He's done it before...

Good point. If you believe the stories, anyway.

philjones 01-09-2008 11:06 AM

Just something I am at peace with....

ANY action the Almighty God takes, regardless how it is viewed through man's eyes, is righteous!

Apprehended 01-09-2008 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 353122)
My son's pet bunny bit me and died.

OK...

My six year old grandson prayed for the newly born blind eyes of the puppies. A few days later, they could all see. Ot was a miracle!


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