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Apprehended 01-05-2008 07:32 PM

Some Old Books by Oneness Authors in My Library
 
Brother Ron started a thread regarding A.D. Urshan's book, "The Supreme Need of the Hour." Since I have that book, I started looking through my library for it. I found it and some other old books as well. Here are a few of them:

1. Prayer The Supreme Need of the Hour

2. The Life of Andrew Bar David Urshan

3. The Almighty God in the LOrd JEsus Christ

4. The Doctrine of Redemption and the Redemption of the Body

5. Timely Messages of Comfort

6. My Study of Modern Pentecostals

7. Timely Message of Warning

These books are all authored by A.D. Urshan

By Ralph Reynolds:

1. Pentecostal Bible Study Course

2. Making Full Proof of Our Ministry

3. Can A Believer Be Lost

4. Truth Shall Triumph by Ralph V. Reynolds

Lying, the Most Common and Damnable Sin by Elder B.E. Echols

4 Essentials unto Salvation by Elder B.E. Echols

Is Jesus In The Godhead or is the Godhead in Jesus...Gordon Magee

Prophet or Priest by Paul D. Dugas

A Biblican Approach to Theological Church Government by Paul Dugas

Delivering Up The Kingdom by D.L. Welch

Pentecostal Message by Don C. Marler

Lera by Lerthansung

The Best Way To Win Souls by Theodore Fitch

Who Is This That Defies and Challenges by Bishop S.C. Johnson

The Life and Writings of Elder G.T. Haywood

"Babylon" Origin of Religions by Laura Francis Duprau

Treasures of Truth byt Anna Schrader

Miracles for Mortals by Anna Schrader

The Angels Demons & People, volumes one and two by Kenneth V. Reeves, LL.B, J.D.

The Lost Sons of God by Kenneth V. Reeves

All the Fullness by David Campbell

And The World Did NOt Know HIm by Don L. Rose

The Name and the Book by Frank J. Ewart

These few as a start. I have hundreds. I'll be back later with some more titles.

Rev 01-05-2008 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 349022)
Brother Ron started a thread regarding A.D. Urshan's book, "The Supreme Need of the Hour." Since I have that book, I started looking through my library for it. I found it and some other old books as well. Here are a few of them:

1. Prayer The Supreme Need of the Hour

2. The Life of Andrew Bar David Urshan

3. The Almighty God in the LOrd JEsus Christ

4. The Doctrine of Redemption and the Redemption of the Body

5. Timely Messages of Comfort

6. My Study of Modern Pentecostals

7. Timely Message of Warning

These books are all authored by A.D. Urshan

By Ralph Reynolds:

1. Pentecostal Bible Study Course

2. Making Full Proof of Our Ministry

3. Can A Believer Be Lost

4. Truth Shall Triumph by Ralph V. Reynolds

Lying, the Most Common and Damnable Sin by Elder B.E. Echols

4 Essentials unto Salvation by Elder B.E. Echols

Is Jesus In The Godhead or is the Godhead in Jesus...Gordon Magee

Prophet or Priest by Paul D. Dugas

A Biblican Approach to Theological Church Government by Paul Dugas

Delivering Up The Kingdom by D.L. Welch

Pentecostal Message by Don C. Marler

Lera by Lerthansung

The Best Way To Win Souls by Theodore Fitch

Who Is This That Defies and Challenges by Bishop S.C. Johnson

The Life and Writings of Elder G.T. Haywood

"Babylon" Origin of Religions by Laura Francis Duprau

Treasures of Truth byt Anna Schrader

Miracles for Mortals by Anna Schrader

The Angels Demons & People, volumes one and two by Kenneth V. Reeves, LL.B, J.D.

The Lost Sons of God by Kenneth V. Reeves

All the Fullness by David Campbell

And The World Did NOt Know HIm by Don L. Rose

The Name and the Book by Frank J. Ewart

These few as a start. I have hundreds. I'll be back later with some more titles.

I have some of them. But you are certainly showing your age. :toofunny

Apprehended 01-05-2008 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev (Post 349038)
I have some of them. But you are certainly showing your age. :toofunny

What????

I look better today than I did the day I was born. :happydance

Rev 01-05-2008 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 349043)
What????

I look better today than I did the day I was born. :happydance

I do to but only because of the Holy Ghost. :ohplease

James Griffin 01-05-2008 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 349022)
Brother Ron started a thread regarding A.D. Urshan's book, "The Supreme Need of the Hour." Since I have that book, I started looking through my library for it. I found it and some other old books as well. Here are a few of them:

1. Prayer The Supreme Need of the Hour

2. The Life of Andrew Bar David Urshan

3. The Almighty God in the LOrd JEsus Christ

4. The Doctrine of Redemption and the Redemption of the Body

5. Timely Messages of Comfort

6. My Study of Modern Pentecostals

7. Timely Message of Warning

These books are all authored by A.D. Urshan

By Ralph Reynolds:

1. Pentecostal Bible Study Course

2. Making Full Proof of Our Ministry

3. Can A Believer Be Lost

4. Truth Shall Triumph by Ralph V. Reynolds

Lying, the Most Common and Damnable Sin by Elder B.E. Echols

4 Essentials unto Salvation by Elder B.E. Echols

Is Jesus In The Godhead or is the Godhead in Jesus...Gordon Magee

Prophet or Priest by Paul D. Dugas

A Biblican Approach to Theological Church Government by Paul Dugas

Delivering Up The Kingdom by D.L. Welch

Pentecostal Message by Don C. Marler

Lera by Lerthansung

The Best Way To Win Souls by Theodore Fitch

Who Is This That Defies and Challenges by Bishop S.C. Johnson

The Life and Writings of Elder G.T. Haywood

"Babylon" Origin of Religions by Laura Francis Duprau

Treasures of Truth byt Anna Schrader

Miracles for Mortals by Anna Schrader

The Angels Demons & People, volumes one and two by Kenneth V. Reeves, LL.B, J.D.

The Lost Sons of God by Kenneth V. Reeves

All the Fullness by David Campbell

And The World Did NOt Know HIm by Don L. Rose

The Name and the Book by Frank J. Ewart

These few as a start. I have hundreds. I'll be back later with some more titles.

May just have to pay you a visit someday just to sit in your library and read!!!!!


Wish they had a "green with envy" smiley.
:-)

Cindy 01-05-2008 07:57 PM

Amazon has some used copies of Bro. Urshan's book Prayer The Supreme Need Of The Hour.

Apprehended 01-05-2008 08:04 PM

Here are a few more and then I am going to bed...

A Rose Blossomed in the Desert (Biography of Rev. and Mrs Edwin E. Roark Pioneer Pentecostals of East Texas 1909 - 1963 by Adell (Roark) Cooper

United We stand by Arthur L. Clanton both Hardback and paperback. Don't know how I ended up with both... Maybe I swiped one of the from someone :D

Their Story: 20th Century Pentecostals by Fred J. Foster

The Winds of God by Ethel E. Goss

2nd Annual Southern Conference by William Booth-Cleburn

The Flame Still Burns T.F. Tenny (Not that old but worth the mention)

The Early Pentecostal Revial by James L. Tyson (Again, not that old but worth the mention)

1. The Boy Preacher by Harvey Shearer

2. Husbands and Wives by Harvey Shearer

3. Apostolic Revivals and Campmeetings by Harvey Shearer

Visions Beyond the Veil by H.A. Baker (I've read this most stirring book many times)

I'll list some more tomorrow...

Good night all....

Apprehended 01-05-2008 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Griffin (Post 349049)
May just have to pay you a visit someday just to sit in your library and read!!!!!


Wish they had a "green with envy" smiley.
:-)

Y'all come on by. I would be glad to have you.

Apprehended 01-05-2008 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev (Post 349048)
I do to but only because of the Holy Ghost. :ohplease

A good solid rap on my butt the day I was born helped me out an awful lot. :D

Cindy 01-05-2008 08:14 PM

I would like to read that one about the Roarks. Does anyone know if PPH publishes some old books?

Apprehended 01-05-2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 349074)
I would like to read that one about the Roarks. Does anyone know if PPH publishes some old books?

IT is 220 pages of very interesting historical facts. It is well worth the read and revealing some little known events of early Oneness Pentecost. He was first licensed with the AOG and was among the ones in the picture taken in Hot Springs Ark Feb 12th, 1914.

Cindy 01-05-2008 08:23 PM

Thanks for the information. Gonna go over to the UPCI website, I think the have some history related items there.

Cindy 01-05-2008 08:24 PM

I meant PPH sorry, getting tired.

Rev 01-05-2008 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 349082)
IT is 220 pages of very interesting historical facts. It is well worth the read and revealing some little known events of early Oneness Pentecost. He was first licensed with the AOG and was among the ones in the picture taken in Hot Springs Ark Feb 12th, 1914.

Does that book mention Bro. Womble? He was my wife's Grand-Dad. He's in the book "Old-Time Preacher Men" and he was from that area.

Apprehended 01-05-2008 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev (Post 349090)
Does that book mention Bro. Womble? He was my wife's Grand-Dad. He's in the book "Old-Time Preacher Men" and he was from that area.

I don't remember if it does or not. It has been a while since I read it. Like I said, it is about 220 pages long and has no Appendix or Biblography in the back.

Are you talkling about Bro. and Sister Warren Womble from Friendship, Arkansas?

Rev 01-05-2008 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 349095)
I don't remember if it does or not. It has been a while since I read it. Like I said, it is about 220 pages long and has no Appendix or Biblography in the back.

Are you talkling about Bro. and Sister Warren Womble from Friendship, Arkansas?

Yes!

Apprehended 01-05-2008 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev (Post 349098)
Yes!

Actually, brother and Sister Roark were from around Linwood (East) Texas. I'll thumb through the book to see if bro. and Sister Wombel is mentioned in it.

BoredOutOfMyMind 01-05-2008 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 349051)
Amazon has some used copies of Bro. Urshan's book Prayer The Supreme Need Of The Hour.

The supreme need of the hour and the source of mighty revivals (Unknown Binding)
by Andrew D Urshan (Author)

Currently unavailable

Cindy 01-05-2008 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 349123)
The supreme need of the hour and the source of mighty revivals (Unknown Binding)
by Andrew D Urshan (Author)

Currently unavailable

uh oh, guess my sis-in-law got the last copy. She just ordered it tonight.

Cindy 01-05-2008 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 349108)
Actually, brother and Sister Roark were from around Linwood (East) Texas. I'll thumb through the book to see if bro. and Sister Wombel is mentioned in it.

Oh they were from down around Cherokee County.

rrford 01-05-2008 09:35 PM

So, how many of these are for sale and how much are they? :nod

Apprehended 01-06-2008 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rrford (Post 349173)
So, how many of these are for sale and how much are they? :nod

None for sale.

Another thread was started about an old book by A.D. Urshan. I started sifting through my Library and started noticing some of those old books by oneness authors. While glancing through them, I wondered if there was anyone else that recognized them or had some of those titles.

I'm looking for a book (title (?)) that I have that was written by Emmanuel Swedenberg. He was a very strong Oneness theologian that lived back in the days of John Wesley. I've not read it in a great while but he was very definite in his declaration of the person of Jesus Christ as the only one true God.

Hoovie 01-06-2008 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 349479)
None for sale.

Another thread was started about an old book by A.D. Urshan. I started sifting through my Library and started noticing some of those old books by oneness authors. While glancing through them, I wondered if there was anyone else that recognized them or had some of those titles.

I'm looking for a book (title (?)) that I have that was written by Emmanuel Swedenberg. He was a very strong Oneness theologian that lived back in the days of John Wesley. I've not read it in a great while but he was very definite in his declaration of the person of Jesus Christ as the only one true God.

I have read some about Swedenborg. I am not sure that his Christology matched anything in todays Oneness Pentecostalism. I know Helen Keller and Johney Appleseed were devotees.

Cindy 01-06-2008 09:32 AM

Well PPH didn't have but one or two books from old oneness authors. Apparently at Amazon.com people buy and sale things including books. Like a garage sale. Apprehended, they didn't have any about the Roark's. There is also a website United Pentecostal Historical Center. A lot of good articles there. That is just UPC I think but some of it is before the UPC was even formed also.
I have really gotten interested in the history of the church since coming to this forum.
Some of y'all make it so interesting.

Apprehended 01-06-2008 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 349492)
Well PPH didn't have but one or two books from old oneness authors. Apparently at Amazon.com people buy and sale things including books. Like a garage sale. Apprehended, they didn't have any about the Roark's. There is also a website United Pentecostal Historical Center. A lot of good articles there. That is just UPC I think but some of it is before the UPC was even formed also.
I have really gotten interested in the history of the church since coming to this forum.
Some of y'all make it so interesting.

At one time I was a fanatical Pentecostal History buff. This is not so much true anymore though I sometimes relapse back into a momentary interest. But that condition soon passes since I am aware that history can be rewritten to suit the times and the acceptable thinking of the day. It has almost become "history de jour."

I found the Archives in Hazelwood less than fully willing to help. I found the archives in Springfield more than willing to help, having no desire to cover any dirty laundry. I was impressed with them.

Because they were so forthcoming, at my death, I will bequeath some very old stuff that they only have bits and pieces of, as a token of appreciation for their complete cooperation.

Apprehended 01-06-2008 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 349486)
I have read some about Swedenborg. I am not sure that his Christology matched anything in todays Oneness Pentecostalism. I know Helen Keller and Johney Appleseed were devotees.

I don't remember exactly either. However, in reading his material, it became quite evident that he was entirely Oneness, whether or not it matched today's Oneness Christology or not.

I do remember that bro. J.L. Hall said that he was oneness, but of the Divine Flesh theory. With those words on my mind, I read carefully his take on the subject. He was not of the D.F. doctrine that we know today as D.F., even though he referred to Jesus as the divne Human. I think that we can all agree that Jesus is both Human and Divine. How this works out as to differences in what he thought at the time and what we think today, I can't say for sure at the moment. But, in the book that I have, he clearly stated that all would be refused into heaven that did not acknowledge Jesus as God in the flesh.

I thought that statement was rather striking while I remeber that there are people that have obeyed Acts 2:38 who do not have this understanding and do not acknowledge it.

Hoovie 01-06-2008 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 349500)
I don't remember exactly either. However, in reading his material, it became quite evident that he was entirely Oneness, whether or not it matched today's Oneness Christology or not.

I do remember that bro. J.L. Hall said that he was oneness, but of the Divine Flesh theory. With those words on my mind, I read carefully his take on the subject. He was not of the D.F. doctrine that we know today as D.F., even though he referred to Jesus as the divne Human. I think that we can all agree that Jesus is both Human and Divine. How this works out as to differences in what he thought at the time and what we think today, I can't say for sure at the moment. But, in the book that I have, he clearly stated that all would be refused into heaven that did not acknowledge Jesus as God in the flesh.

I thought that statement was rather striking while I remeber that there are people that have obeyed Acts 2:38 who do not have this understanding and do not acknowledge it.

It depends on what is poured into this acknowledgement right? Personally, I can say I have never met any knowlegeable professing Christian who denied Jesus was God come in flesh - Trinitarian OR Oneness.

Rev 01-06-2008 10:37 AM

Apprehended

Talking about old books - I have a bible that was printed in the 1800s. That's not that rare but what is rare about this bible is that it is in three volumes, each volume being about 14x8 inches with the Matthew Henry commentary. They belonged to my great grand-dad who came over from England built a church in Canada then came down to OK. as a missionary to the Indians.

Apprehended 01-06-2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 349509)
It depends on what is poured into this acknowledgement right? Personally, I can say I have never met any knowlegeable professing Christian who denied Jesus was God come in flesh - Trinitarian OR Oneness.

Yes, that would be right. I agree.

Swedenberg drew clear distinctions in what he believed and taught compared to Trinitarianism. In my mind, he left no doubt.

Apprehended 01-06-2008 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rev (Post 349511)
Apprehended

Talking about old books - I have a bible that was printed in the 1800s. That's not that rare but what is rare about this bible is that it is in three volumes, each volume being about 14x8 inches with the Matthew Henry commentary. They belonged to my great grand-dad who came over from England built a church in Canada then came down to OK. as a missionary to the Indians.

That would probably be the old Weslyan bible. Matthew Henry was a Weslyan devotee, as I recall. He wrote emphatically against the idea of Eternal Sonship, as preached by Wesley.

John Wesley and Finney were tongue talkers. They had a heavenly gift and scarcely realized what they had. Amazing. My grandmother who was born at the end of the Civil War was an old time Methodist. She remembered when the Methodist used to get the "goose jabbers," speaking in a funny language. Many of them had to be carried home in wagons. Some went out in visions and saw glorious things.

I wonder if we have as much Holy Ghost as they did, even though we have paid careful attention to ALL THEE STEPS.

Rev 01-06-2008 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 349532)
That would probably be the old Weslyan bible. Matthew Henry was a Weslyan devotee, as I recall. He wrote emphatically against the idea of Eternal Sonship, as preached by Wesley.

John Wesley and Finney were tongue talkers. They had a heavenly gift and scarcely realized what they had. Amazing. My grandmother who was born at the end of the Civil War was an old time Methodist. She remembered when the Methodist used to get the "goose jabbers," speaking in a funny language. Many of them had to be carried home in wagons. Some went out in visions and saw glorious things.

I wonder if we have as much Holy Ghost as they did, even though we have paid careful attention to ALL THEE STEPS.

My wife has told me about her great grand-mom - Sis Womble's mother who they often had to carry home.

Do we have as much Holy Ghost? I think the answer is no. We could have but we just don't commit the way they did. My wife would often go stay with the Womble's and she said they went to someone's home almost every day and had a prayer meeting. If someone was sick they would all gather in that person's home to pray. Don't see that now.

Sam 01-06-2008 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 349532)
...
I wonder if we have as much Holy Ghost as they did, ...

We probably have as much Holy Ghost as they did.
The Holy Ghost probably doesn't have as much of us as He did of them.

Cindy 01-06-2008 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev (Post 349553)
My wife has told me about her great grand-mom - Sis Womble's mother who they often had to carry home.

Do we have as much Holy Ghost? I think the answer is no. We could have but we just don't commit the way they did. My wife would often go stay with the Womble's and she said they went to someone's home almost every day and had a prayer meeting. If someone was sick they would all gather in that person's home to pray. Don't see that now.

My mom and several ladies from the church I grew up in were like that. Go to each other's houses and have prayer meetings. My mom was a woman of great faith and a prayer warrior. This was back in the 60's.

Rev 01-06-2008 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 349752)
We probably have as much Holy Ghost as they did.
The Holy Ghost probably doesn't have as much of us as He did of them.

I wish I'd said that! :toofunny

Cindy 01-06-2008 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev (Post 349767)
I wish I'd said that! :toofunny

Me too!
That was a good one Bro. Sam.

stmatthew 01-06-2008 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 349532)
That would probably be the old Weslyan bible. Matthew Henry was a Weslyan devotee, as I recall. He wrote emphatically against the idea of Eternal Sonship, as preached by Wesley.

John Wesley and Finney were tongue talkers. They had a heavenly gift and scarcely realized what they had. Amazing. My grandmother who was born at the end of the Civil War was an old time Methodist. She remembered when the Methodist used to get the "goose jabbers," speaking in a funny language. Many of them had to be carried home in wagons. Some went out in visions and saw glorious things.

I wonder if we have as much Holy Ghost as they did, even though we have paid careful attention to ALL THEE STEPS.

I don't think you can blame our lack on the THREE STEPS, but all those other steps we do in our entertainment driven lives.

I have never read of any revival that was not born on someones knees. It was usually very long hours of weeping and crying out to God. Nowadays we spend 30 minutes in prayer and feel like we should be commended. I can remember my dad fasting 40 days and nights several times. He would pray hours at a time. It is no wonder as a youth I saw so many mighty miracles, and Oh the times that you thought the heavens themselves had rent and God had come down in the services. I truly miss those days, and long for their return.

Cindy 01-06-2008 07:07 PM

And sometimes church wasn't over until midnight, (on school nights even). And when we were little we made pallets between the pews to sleep on. And I don't remember anyone getting stepped on by someone shouting or dancing in the spirit.

stmatthew 01-06-2008 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 349778)
And sometimes church wasn't over until midnight, (on school nights even). And when we were little we made pallets between the pews to sleep on. And I don't remember anyone getting stepped on by someone shouting or dancing in the spirit.

Do they still shout and dance in the spirit like they used to 40 years ago??

Rev 01-06-2008 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew (Post 349776)
I don't think you can blame our lack on the THREE STEPS, but all those other steps we do in our entertainment driven lives.

I have never read of any revival that was not born on someones knees. It was usually very long hours of weeping and crying out to God. Nowadays we spend 30 minutes in prayer and feel like we should be commended. I can remember my dad fasting 40 days and nights several times. He would pray hours at a time. It is no wonder as a youth I saw so many mighty miracles, and Oh the times that you thought the heavens themselves had rent and God had come down in the services. I truly miss those days, and long for their return.

Same here about revival coming through prayer. Just reading about your Dad gives me goose bumps.

ReformedDave 01-06-2008 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 349532)
That would probably be the old Weslyan bible. Matthew Henry was a Weslyan devotee, as I recall. He wrote emphatically against the idea of Eternal Sonship, as preached by Wesley.

John Wesley and Finney were tongue talkers. They had a heavenly gift and scarcely realized what they had. Amazing. My grandmother who was born at the end of the Civil War was an old time Methodist. She remembered when the Methodist used to get the "goose jabbers," speaking in a funny language. Many of them had to be carried home in wagons. Some went out in visions and saw glorious things.

I wonder if we have as much Holy Ghost as they did, even though we have paid careful attention to ALL THEE STEPS.

What are your references to Wesley and Finney??????


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