"Hello, this is Evangelist..." : Do you let them come preach?
 

When my dad evangelized he would have references that he would share.

He would also do back ground interest checks on the pastor as well.

He got put into some crazy situations by not knowing who he was going to preach for.

I think the I'm in the area call does not happen as much anymore...

I'm not a pastor so my opinion matters little, bit the Bible says to know them that labor among you...

I'd be careful who I let address my sheep. Especially the young in the Lord.

Absolutely. I would be asking them who I might call for a reference, or who would I know that they know.

However, if an evangelist did come and preach something contrary to the church's teaching, I would hope the Pastor would get up and say that is enough and do a sermon of his own.

That snake oil might just cost more in the long run.

I know of a situation, ( I hope it rightfully pertains to this thread)

Where a pastor recommended an evangelist to other pastors, confident of the work that was done in his church by this evangelist would benefit others.

Well things started to unravel for this evangelist and they stated messing up with lies and other rather not so ethical behavior fitting a VISITING minister.

And other pastors started to complain to the pastor about the Evangelist.

So you know what that pastor did??? (BIG KUDOS TO THIS MAN)

He went to the evangelists Pastor (drove 2+ hours) and told the man all about it so the Pastor could handle the evangelist.
Plus he talked to all the other pastors letting him know what was being done!

:thumbsup

If I have ever called anyone on the phone it was because I was referred by another Elder, and I had references for the Brother to check out. Know them that labor among you.

You want to help Brothers who are passing through and you can usually pick up on a right Brother when you speak with him and meet his family, but you still want to check his references and who he knows.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

References and recommendations, I usually would have someone if a friend recommended them. Though I did feel sorry for a guy when I pastored in Idaho, he basically preached out of the Geography Section of the Thompson Chain Bible. Me and my wife still laugh about it.

When I evanglized I would have a host pastor call anyone that they thought would click with my ministry and I could help.

If I would have stuck with it, I believe I would have had no problem staying busy or booked.

But I got lonely :family and wanted to earn a Masters Degree.

But the evangelist cold calling the pastor for an invite?

I just walk in and they ask me to say something and the Holy Ghost moves so strong they ask me to come back.The Holy Ghost tells the story,Amen

Lonely is a killer when you are sitting alone in a trailer every night after everyone has gone home. Most of the time my wife wasn't with me.

:toofunny

ha ha

I miss Mellalucah

Seriously, the whole process needs to be re-vamped, in reality it comes down to the I know so and so, very intimidating for the God called, shy evanglist that has a call and anointing but has no clue about the process because no one has shown them how.

There are two opposite spectrums ends, the camp/philosophy that tells you if your called God will open doors, no calls, no networking , just pray and wait. You wait and wait, go to conferences, watch all the carnal preachers kids that you saw in Bible College fornicate and fool around, while you studied, prayed and was obedient get meetings, churches and promoted by their buddies.
(Boy keith you sound bitter, well I once was, but India took it all away)


The other end are the self promoters with their neat little Outreach.com promotions that have no idea of a gift making room for you.

I think somewhere in the middle is where it should be.

Everything other than "old time" revivals needs to be done away with.

I know my dad would go to General Conference. Because it was in Sept/Oct he would fill his entire schedule up for the next year.

The nice thing about the GC was he could find men from the same area of the country and set travel times up to be with churches in the same general area.

It saved travel costs...

He also after a few years had regular standing invites year after year.

I understand your postion.

I would be nervous as a pastor....

Nathan

I think the way things are done in the day we're in now is not conducive to "old time" evangelists....

I am wary of and don't like having somebody preach that I don't already know in some manner beforehand. I would rather approach and ask them, than to have them ask me anyday....

That being said, people don't fellowship one another anymore, so nobody ever learns about who any evangelists are, and the evangelists don't get to know anybody else.... If I'm visiting a meeting somewhere and hear a good preacher, I might want to get ahold of him and invite him to preach for me too. And vice versa, the evangelist would get to meet me if I was visiting there... And some networking would go on.

I think that by and large, most people reside in their own little hole and don't know anything that's going on at the church down the road, across town, or the next town over....except for all the bad stuff that everybody gossips about...that spreads like wildfire...but the good stuff nobody talks about, and they won't associate with each other, so nobody knows anybody.

I agree.....

14 plus years I never did this. Too much pride to beg I think.

Oh...and I might add, God forbid that the evangelist go visit a service that he's not preaching at just so he might meet some people on his own too....*cough*

I doubt you would understand.

Oh Joel, that was rude. He asked an honest question.

Not considering an other post he posted to me,I don't think he would understand.If he thinks i blow smoke,why would i think he might understand what i said here ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steadfast
Methinks thou blowest much smoke!

I was taught that you should never call a man and ask to preach for him. That could be why I don't preach out much.........:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny

When I was at IBC my roommate was Josh Yohe and his dad was the late evangelist Jim Yohe. I traveled down to LA and spent time at their home several times over the years and also traveled with Jim when he was in the midwest. Jim used to telemarket for about 40-50% of his appointments. When he came back into the church and felt a call to preach in his adult years the local pastors wouldnt give him a chance since he was the "backslidden" son of his father. So he took the advice of TF Tenny and started calling pastors outside of LA and TX and he got most of his action in the midwest.

I remember sitting in his living room/den in Independence, LA and watching him book his next 3 months of appointments by phone. He told me that in the beginning it was brute force telemarketing using the UPC manual but later it got easier with referrals, but he still did alot of cold where he talked to them and then sent them a tape or article and did later followup.

I'm not a pastor, I stated that before and I think it's pretty obvious lol..
but
Having seen firsthand the damage that can be done (by an evangelist coming and preaching who hasn't heard from the Lord first) to babies in the Lord... I can completely understand churches who are careful who they have preach.

Is what we call an Evangelist in modern day, what the Bible referred to as Evangelist? Someone who comes, preaches, leaves? Or was an Evangelist something a little different in Bible terms?

If my father didn't know them he would ask who their pastor was. My father would call their pastor and get a feel about the evang. My dad was a friend to the evangelist and wanted to help them all.

QUESTION: Do you let them come or do you generally turn them down?
Obviously if we have something else going on, it takes care of the situation right away. IF there is nothing going on, I try to find out more about the preacher before saying yes or no. If it's a name I've heard of I might be more willing to say yes over the phone.



QUESTION: What is your philosophy of dealing with those calling wanting to preach for you? Depends on whether I know them or not and what they're gifting is. If it's someone I don't know, I'm going to want references. I'll ask him who else they have preached for and I'll call a Pastor or two.



QUESTION: Have you ever been 'burned' by someone and wished you hadn't let them come? I was burned by a missionary who decided to preach personal opinions he has against what he calls "emotional worship" rather than preach a general sermon and give a report about his country. (it was his first time visiting the Church)

Tell the evangelist that since he has some time to spare, come mow the church's lawn. In fact, there are some other chores that needed to be attended too like sweeping the parking lot for instance.

On the other hand, let's hope the Pastor is a little more tuned to the Spirit of God than to listen to some jack-leg looking to pick up a few bucks by strutting in his pulpit. No one is profited by it.

Whatever happened to the idea of servanthood?

Why do you appear to assume the worst?