ATTENTION all ATTENTION Hogs!
 

I thought this was going to be a thread about the AR Razorbacks. lol

Steady: Maybe you could get your attention hogs to come on the forum with ya and have them share their stories with us.

Nobody else (after 20 looks) seems to wanna butcher their hogs in open forum

I hope that 15 yr old never comes across this...

Maybe he's just a bit star-struck with the ministry...

Maybe if we took the time to speak with these folks more often than just Sunday or Wednesday they would have more or less to say...

Wasn't there a something in the Book about a chariot of fire and a young guy there because he happened to be with the elder all the time!:stirpot

Love you Steadfast

Being a preacher's son, I remember certain folks that were like this to my dad. I guess some folks are just needy!

The sad part (at least it was with my dad) is that if you don't give them attention, they'll turn on you! :drama

well there you have it. One thousand threads about how bad preachers are. One light hearted thread about some of the things preachers have to deal with and already the preacher is being ponted out as the bad guy.

nice.

I remember this lady that always needed to come to the pastor/sunday school teacher/ sunday school superintendant/ choir director/ youth pastor at lest once a week and get them in a corner to help them with their "problem". very secretivly they would tell them the details of what ever happened that week in hushed tones like it was some big deal.

they got a speeding ticket and just knew it was the devil.
someone yelled at them at work, had to be the devil on their tail.
the restrooms at church werent clean, someone (other than them) needed to deal with it.
their son got a C in school, surely the end of the world.
they saw something on the news that must mean the end is near.


on and on and on it went. week after week year after year, until she decided our church wasnt "right" and she left.

I often walk into the church now and sing

Peach, peace
wonderful peace
coming down
from the Father above...


just wish the Father would have shown her the error of our ways sooner. (I think she is AGs problem now! LOL!)

I have seen those hogs....they will show up on his door step all hours....interupt service.....because their needs are so much more important than anyone elses.... sometimes we need the pastor for an emergency...but the hog people need them allllll the time!


But I like my HOG better.......it has two beautiful wheels and goes fast and says..............potato.......potato..........pot ato

My first thought was this was gonna be a thread about gluttony. And was just waiting for Bro. Steadfast to get butchered......lol

Bro. Ferd the devil gets blamed for a lot of things that are just bad choices in life.....
It was tough to teach my kids personal accountability when the rest of the world was telling them they could do almost anything and not face consequences.

you are so very right.

Give the 15 year old a ministry... make him feel important to the Lord...

We had a HOG in our old church.... Oh let me tell ya!!!He would call pastor all hours of the night and day... he would be standing at his office door after service.. (pastor would always go there first and put his stuff away then come and greet everyone) since my office was directly next door and hubbys on the other side we tried to diffuse this often but usually to not avail... I dont know how many times me and hubby got the "wink" from pastor asking us to run greet everyone for him as he was "stuck" again.. No this person didnt need anything really he just wanted to talk... to everyone but pastor first....

So then we made the mistake of all staying and talking with him one night... oh NOT good... he had no clue the house connected to the parking lot of the church (that would be the parsonage) belonged to the church... oh well he found this out that day.... so.. now he knows where we live and has pastors address because he has the directory... so about a month later... pastor starts getting knocks on his front door all hours of the day and night... this was not good as he was already going thru some major personal issues right then... well the pastors estranged wife then asked this man not so nicely to not come to her house any longer... he didnt.... oh he remembered where the assistant pastors lived... so we started getting these calls and knocks.... here I am with 4 kids waking up at 2 am while my husband is often out of state working... this man walking to my house and ringing my doorbell!!!!!!!!

Dont take me wrong!!! LOVE SOULS I mean for goodness sake we ran a huge halfway house ministry and often had many of them at our home for days and had 4 displaced people living with us a few times... we opened our doors to many and didnt matter the situation if we knew them well.... anywho you get the idea... but LORD HAVE MERCY!!!!!!!!! If this man had knocked on my door one more time I was gonna have to strangle the sense outta him! (wait not sure he had any left) so I spoke to our board members and asked them what they thought... as they were my only sounding board right then.. well since they were going to be over working on our home the next day (well they pretty much lived there considring all the work that had to be done on that house lol) so they kindly sat him down and explained to him that he needed to come to one of their homes as the chance of him coming while I was home alone was high and that was not a good thing and that wasnt a good situation... he kindly quit coming over unless he came over with one of them to work on our house... In the end he told me... I only wanted to help the pastors... I hear now he does this exact same thing to his new pastor where many of our former members now attend... Its a wild road and there is usually no nice way to handle some like this... fortunately like PM said at least this one didnt turn on us!

Those kind of HOGS simply have a misplaced affection. It is very easy to handle those kind of people and make them feel good about themselves at the same time. Turning that sense of affection in the right way can adavantage the work of God and make one of the finest and most faithful saints at the same time. I love those people. It is just a matter of turning them just a little.

I think ATTENTION HOGS are needy....does not have anything to do with affection, they are....:drama queeens

two things, the devil gets credit for all kinds of stuff that happens, the truth is he just aint that powerful and second, most of these people are needy and just need some direction or something to work on, how bout a life, lol,god bless our pastors who deal with this constantly, i did years ago, now i just try not to be a hog, lol,dt:drama

Gee... I feel the love LOL... that was in referrence to the last comment LOL... We have ummm 20 some odd pastors on staff.... I think they can handle her! And .... IF NOT... I am hiding.. altho.. ya ever heard the saying.. where to they find em and why do they send em to me??? LOL... Ummm ummmm we seem to get some of the oddest ones... but thats OK :)

I had a dear friend tell us years ago our doors would be opened and God would send us all those who no one else wanted! Gotta love that one! He has indeed done that and we love em to death!!! Not literally.... We have one right now... who does not understand at all.. we are finishing cleaning out mom and dads house.. he wants to come over all the time..so then we tell him we are working over there... he gets a ride over there to help us!!! I love this person to pieces in the Lord.. but I had to get very firm and tell him look! My mom died.. we are doing family stuff .... it was hard for them to understand but there has to be a line drawn!!!

I think you are right.

I actually was one of those people. Although I didn't do most of the things that I'm reading here. And I think that it comes from being rejected earlier in life by one or both parents. So, you have to have the attention of someone important to make you feel important and accepted.

I also agree with another post that said give the guy something to do. It might be trivial, but it just might be enough to help him. You could also have one of your young ministers go up to him right after service and start talking. You could rotate them lol. But it has to be someone that is at least on the platform some of the time, otherwise there are not important enough in his eyes.

One of the guys who was like that in our old church... we asked him what he wanted to do... just point blank... and his case was true of what you say... he said I will do anything you will let me do.... The house needed tons of work an so did the church... This man taught himself how to tile and how to do sheetrock and did the entire parsonage and church and was so so content and happy... he is now leading 3 bible study groups and thriving wonderfully!

Awesome! :thumbsup

Maybe giving these folks a job (usher or greeter, etc.) will help after all! Interesting!

Some in the case mentioned above yes it does... some there I think is no help... well.. there is but I think you know what I mean... some just want the attention and not to work and keep busy! But yes I have seen it to work wonderfully and not.. both sides of the board

Sorry I wasn't clear.

This part is for Steadfast:

I also agree with another post that said give the guy something to do. It might be trivial, but it just might be enough to help him. You could also have one of your young ministers go up to him right after service and start talking. You could rotate them lol. But it has to be someone that is at least on the platform some of the time, otherwise there are not important enough in his eyes.

We had one "hog" who drove us nuts continually wanting this and that and then she asked what she could do to help... I got all excited and called pastor that morning into my office and said yay I have help now! Thinking excitedly this was one of those good situations... Ok at this time I was overseeing a total remodel of a parsonage and church... trying to run the church, (as far as business wise) trying to get our cell groups going and juggle 3 groups my husband and I were teaching in our home every week and doing both choirs adult and youth and drama team and us also being youth pastors...So I gladly put this lady in charge of filing some papers I had just been brought (2 yrs worth of paperwork that had previously been stored in his home instead of the church)

Immediately after this due to some unfortunate circumstances this person was misplaced and ended up also living in my home (6 months actually) well... There was absolutely no work done... except to cook dinner 2 times a week.. the paper work was so much worse than when I began in the first place... all I could get done was follow this person around and then I had to do double duty... But the want want want never ended... It was a no win situation... She would run to the church the min the pastor drove up and start asking him what she could do and tell him about her run of the day problems... he would just say well if you want work go see T.... and well.. it was a vicious cycle that never ever ended. so it all depends on the person really and how genuine they really are

Exactly!!! Someone with some higher authority within the church so that they feel that the pastor actually sent them or authorized it! Right on Bro!

There are other kinds of hogs though, the ones who aren't so affectionate. I know of one in our church, the only reason that I know is because I work in the church office and have been present during a lot of the incidents.

She has for several years come to the pastor after almost every service to complain about everything that she perceives to be wrong with the church, about everything from the music, to how the young people dress, to what the pastor preached, ect, ect, ect....

My pastor was very patient with her for a very long time, until several months ago I think he reached his limit. He asked her to specifically tell him scripturally what was wrong with what she was complaining about.

Her response was, "well, that's not how I was brought up and taught". He said "Sister, I love you, but you obviously aren't happy here. There are plenty of other apostolic churches in town, why don't you find one that lines up more to how you believe, and go there?" Her response, "Well, I don't like what they are doing at those churches either". LOL! He said "Exactly!"

Yes. I agree entirely.

Another thing that needs to be considered is that these people usually love the Lord greatly. At least they are very much attracted to Him.

This hog condition often happens in someone that sees the anointing and glory on a man of God as he officiates in his office behind the sacred desk. He sees in the man the light and divine approbation on what is going on in the pulpit. He confuses the glory and graces of God with that of the man himself. Actually, if the hog really knew the person intimately, they may not like his personal characteristics at all. But, instead, they are very much in love with what he sees upon the man of God, under the graces of divine approbation while he is in the pulpit. He is confused and needs to understand the differences.

As I said before, it is a small matter of readjusting his affections in the right direction.

Hahaha...LOL :lol

Oh boy! Have I see my share of THOSE kind too. I think every church has to endure a few of those from time to time. Usually, it is the sound system. You can NEVER get it right for them. :drama These folk really give us all a charge of DRAMA...

AND a headache!!!! :ouch :toofunny

ROFL Oh I love those!!! We had one in La... when we got there we noticed there were no drums in the church...odd but ok... so my hubby asked the pastor why... he said well they gave sis so n so a migraine so we took em out... so she left... actually decided she would go to POA ROFL... Migraines yea... so they put the drums back in.... 4 months later... she was back... some reason POA didnt work out for her in the sound issue dept. ROFL... We are gone from that area now but I hear they have again removed the drums LOL

AmazingGrace...

There are two types of people in the world...in a general sense. First there are the givers and then there are the takers.

You are a giver. The sister was a taker. For her own sake, you ought not to let people like her take advantage of you any more than you can help it. By allowing that, you are reinforcing her dependence upon all who are around her. These kind of people are so dependent prone that they will never grow up as long as someone is willing to pander to their weakness.

She should be shown other options and shown the door.

Just my opinion.

And you could add one shoe to the deal to help her out of the door.

Oh believe me.. thats long over!!! The only reason she was allowed in my home in the first place is her husband tried to kill her and she had a 4 mo old baby whom we took care of for a long time while she was in the hospital... then it just continued... Right before she left.. she left us with the baby... then went and found a shelter.. we relocated her shortly after and told her she had to make choices or the baby had to go to cps... she has the baby now.. which probably wasnt the best choice but... due to the circumstances we had no choice either! But yes I was a major push over then.. there was already too much drama in my life to where I couldnt see the good from the bad! We learned real quick to say no when we were forced to take the pastorate there and everything else happened!

:toofunny

I guess that DRAMA drove the drummer crazy. ROFL....

Anyway, there are those kind that can never be satisfied...regardless what you do or do not do.

There comes a time after a while that the Pastor just gets up by divine inspiration and gives those type a good old fashioned gospel spanking with the golden rule (r) After awhile 'nuff's 'nuff.

Ok now I am confused... dont know if yall were talking bout the situation w the lady who lived w us or the drum lady LOL I guess both would apply! LOL

After having a number of different pastors, I think five, only one that I know of did not have clicks.

I understand pastors are people and they should be able to fellowship with whoever they will. However, not to the extent it shows favortism.

That was the case with my pastor, after that last incident he told her not to come to him with a complaint again, and if she ever left a service again (which she was doing when she got upset about something) she better be sick enough to be going to the hospital, or to never come back. :scripture

Did you know that green persimmons will really make your mouth pucker up.

LOL did you know I am not really a blonde! LOL

I was just totally bombarded when I made those last 2 comments (like my kid got sick and my other daughter and nephew both reminded me I had science projects to help them with tonight due tomorrow!!! all at once and oh duh I totally forgot what I was even talking about then so you could tell me that penguins lived in my backyard and I would have believed ya!):shhh dont tell no one ive lost it... cuz they all already know! LOL