Statement made at BOTT
 

I heard the following statement was made in a sermon and was wondering if anyone that was there could verify

"if your son is not a preacher then that is a waste"

Could that mentality be some of the problem with many of our church's. Many of our churchs are just handed over to Son's of great men and the Son's have no right pastoring the church except they have the last name. THis is why we get the label a cult in many circles because it is always left in the family. I wonder if God had had other plans. THat is a stupid remark if it indeed was said at BOTT.

Let me say that there are great men who are leading churchs that are sons of the original pastor. My Pastor is one of them.

Why don't we reserve judgement on something that has yet to be confirmed and the context is also missing, until we have the full picture.

You can take any words, from anywhere or anyone... out of the Good Bible itself... and really mess around if you don't know the context and spirit behind it.

Now THAT is funny. Every other daddy said that about HIS son to whom he left the church...in every case.

But, I guess it is unreasonable to allow the Holy Ghost dictate who it is that will be the overseer of the flock as was done in Acts which Paul so aptly noted. "Take heed to yourself to feed the flock of God over whch the Holy Ghost hath made you the overseer...."

It is unreasonable since daddy invested so much of his precious time, strength and energy building it up over the many years then to just let the Holy Ghost determine who will become the next pastor. Besides, it is hard to see Junior have to pick up his lunch bucket and ACTUALLY have to go and find a JOB...YIKES!!!!!!!! HELP!!!!!!!!! NO WAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!

:lol

It's hard to relinguish a good business to the HOLY GHOST!

Forgive me for my little sarcasm. I can't say I can blame it on the devil, but maybe a little flesh. :D

I would rather know the context of the statement and why it was said before I comment.

YOu are both so correct.

As ministers, shouldn't we know the value of CONTEXT. You should never take anything out of context...you loose the original intent of the author. Let's listen to the context, then pass judgement!

This stuff gets really old.

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I have confirmed statement was made by bro huntley......

Many fo the men who became ministers and were put in churches because of daddy.

Have left churhes a mess and wasteland...

I don't doubt the statement was made...but what was his context?

I don't agree with the statement as it stands, BUT...I have heard a lot of ministers and wives say that they don't want to encourage their children to go into ministry because it can be such a difficult life. (Something of that nature) Perhaps that mindset is also wrong? I think the idea is that our children should be taught that serving God and His people in a ministerial capacity is a privilege.

I would rephrase it to say: "If your son (or daughter) is not a messenger of the Gospel, that is a waste." We all should be spreading the Good News!

I was told it was just a statement he made in his sermon, that he was preaching about raising your children to serve God. THen he just up and makes this unqualified statement.

Can anyone find out exactly or get a clip?

I would be curious to know.

This statement was made by WH. I talked with a very close minister friend of min who grew up under WH in his church.

He told me that WH has always believed and taught this.

I do not agree with this concept. However, it makes me think no less of this wonderful man of God.

As always, such sound judgment and wisdom in one so young...good post, MissyB...

Off topic a bit, but what amazes me is the sometimes...not always, but sometimes lack of training which precedes passing a mantle of leadership.

It is not uncommon for a carpenter or small businessman to desire to pass on said profession/business to a son/son in law.

However, who in their right thinking would do so without properly training the individual in every area...showing them the ropes, as it were, and giving them the opportunity to get their feet wet in the well of expereince before the reins are handed over?!

Ain't that the truth. Cabinets that don't hang right. Crooked fences. Wal Mart.

“Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.” - Mark Twain

LOL some around here just need to get the full facts LOL

The statement was intended for preachers who are raising sons... The statement was indeed made, but in that context..

Are you saying my facts were distorted? That is what I have heard from a reliable friend that was there. Have you heard the message? I doubt this friend made it up!

So what abuot the preachers who were sitting there who sons are not preachers? How does that make them fill? Were their kids lives a waste?

No harm intended! :) Just a funny quote I decided to add to the thread!

I've seen men that called themselves. I've seen men that some of the family called them, what a joke!

I am not here to debate what he said, except for the fact that WH only has a daughter... If he had a son he might not have made the statement.. As far as how they felt, you would have to ask them... I am sure they didn't feel real good...

I'm a son of of preacher, so I guess I'm a waste! :ohplease

I think what he intended to say was that if you are a preacher and you have a son who is not in the ministry, he probably has a waiste..

Now, that would be true! :lol

How negative. You should never say such a thing about yourself. Nobody is ever a waste. Your life is certainly not a waste. It serves as an exemplary warning to others!








j/k ;)

This is also true! :lol

Many who became ministers whose daddy had never been ministers have become pastors of churches with no help from daddy and left them a mess and a wasteland.

What is your point and assertion, Nathan, that men are fallible even if their dad is a minister? :)

Shhhhhhh.

You'll spoil their sport of picking at the preacher's kid.

You know the rules, Phil Jones, no logic or reason allowed.

Not with all the jealosy and judgmentalism running rampant.

Everyone makes mistakes. The trick is to make mistakes when nobody is looking. Preacher's kids can make this an art! I know! :D

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Shhhhhhhhh dont tell! LOL I dont want no one to figure out how evil we are ok!

Dumb thread.

You sure have been missed... hey... do we have that one thread on this forum or was it never started here? I think it could be used much so here! LOL

The word is already out. Especially about you! :stirpot

Hey I resemble that remark! You be gangin up w boom I tell ya!

And remark itself I agree. A preacher cannot call his son but I am sure they are happy if the Lord does place them in the ministry.

I have to wonder, with this sort of pressure, how many people out there have "gone into the ministry" that were never called to be there...is it a career or is it a calling?

And if they are not really called, how does this affect them and how does it affect those under them>

Dump Post.

Just for clarification, I know Scooter and his son is not a pastor, his son is in grade-school. He was referring to his own pastor, who as I understand, left a high paying job with a international company taking a pay-cut in the process, when he was voted in as assistant pastor at his fathers church.

Just for clarification.