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The Dean 01-22-2008 03:13 PM

Brokeback Cowboy Dead
 
I just saw a newsflash on my computer saying that an actor named Heath Ledger was just found dead. He had played a cowboy in Brokeback Mountain who was gay. I read a recent article that said his career had nosedived after that role.

Could it be that the whole world doesn't buy into perversion?

This is the third young actor in three weeks found dead they said.

Esther 01-22-2008 03:20 PM

Interesting.

Some says things go in 3's.

Michael Phelps 01-22-2008 03:24 PM

I'm not sure that the movie had anything to do with his career, it wasn't really that strong before the movie......he had a few decent roles, such as Mel Gibson's oldest son in "The Patriot", but he wasn't really a household name.

However, his counterpart, Jake Gyllenhall seems to be doing fine since the movie.

I'd say that it's the same plague, alcohol and drug use........so many young people are caught up in the riches and glitz and glamour of a famous lifestyle, and just can't handle the peer pressure. It's very sad.

MissBrattified 01-22-2008 03:29 PM

*sad* :(

simplyme 01-22-2008 03:29 PM

High expectations also play a role in an actors mind., they think they oughta be like "soooo discovered" after one good role, but many times its a "one hitter" and they crash/burn., SAD indeed that such things occur, from a "fast-food" industry.
Yet another point for having more in ones life than "flash", ALL people everywhere, need to feed their hungry parched souls with 'substance' food that will last for an eternity!
JESUS fills all needs! ;)

RandyWayne 01-22-2008 04:01 PM

All it takes is one good overdose to kill you. He bought it in one day versus the frantic downward partying spiral that Britney and Lindsey are on.

The Patriot was an excellent movie by the way! I also look forward to seeing the next "Dark Knight" film this Summer that he stars in.

rgcraig 01-22-2008 04:06 PM

I don't think his death had anything to do with being in the movie.

revrandy 01-22-2008 04:08 PM

Another Hollywood Success Story....Chalk one up......

Look for Further deaths to come....

Sad to say...concerning the hereafter...

RevDWW 01-22-2008 04:13 PM

Sad.

Sin does not satisfy the soul..........

CC1 01-22-2008 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 364442)
I just saw a newsflash on my computer saying that an actor named Heath Ledger was just found dead. He had played a cowboy in Brokeback Mountain who was gay. I read a recent article that said his career had nosedived after that role.

Could it be that the whole world doesn't buy into perversion?

This is the third young actor in three weeks found dead they said.


You are incorrect about his career nosediving after that role. He plays the Joker in the upcoming Batman movie due out this summer.

He turned down many roles because he did not want to play them much to the consertnation of his agent, manager, and parents.

Sadly he battled drug addiction in recent years and his death does not seem to be a surprise to his friends from all the news reports I am hearing.

What is really intersting is that I just heard on CNN a reporter say he had interviewed him and Heath told the reporter that his role as the Joker was that of a "demonic" murderer and he was having trouble shaking off putting himself into that frame of mind (paraphrasing what was said).

My favorite role Heath played was in the great movie "The Patriot" with fellow Australian Mel Gibson. Every American school child should be required to watch that film.

Heath leaves a 2 year old daughter.

Ron 01-22-2008 04:16 PM

I don't think he think that he thinks that Brokeback Mountain was a good role to be in!

Hurray for Hollywood!

God needs to just purge Hollywood & give it a Holly Ghost revival!

Coonskinner 01-22-2008 04:18 PM

I have many things to say unto you concerning this matter, but ye are not able to bear them.

rgcraig 01-22-2008 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 364537)
I don't think he think that he thinks that Brokeback Mountain was a good role to be in!

Hurray for Hollywood!

God needs to just purge Hollywood & give it a Holly Ghost revival!

Wouldn't that be our responsibility to reach out to save them?

rgcraig 01-22-2008 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner (Post 364539)
I have many things to say unto you concerning this matter, but ye are not able to bear them.

Just don't break out into song!

RandyWayne 01-22-2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 364537)
I don't think he think that he thinks that Brokeback Mountain was a good role to be in!

Hurray for Hollywood!

God needs to just purge Hollywood & give it a Holly Ghost revival!

Of course that wouldn't make a lick of difference. After all "we" don't watch TV because of Hollywood..... and Hollywood is evil because they broadcast on TV. I'm sure that reasoning makes sense to someone out there...... To the rest, it is just circular reasoning.

CC1 01-22-2008 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 364540)
Wouldn't that be our responsibility to reach out to save them?

Some seem to just prefer some good ole Old Testament wrath.

Felicity 01-22-2008 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 364454)
I'm not sure that the movie had anything to do with his career, it wasn't really that strong before the movie......he had a few decent roles, such as Mel Gibson's oldest son in "The Patriot", but he wasn't really a household name.

However, his counterpart, Jake Gyllenhall seems to be doing fine since the movie.

I'd say that it's the same plague, alcohol and drug use........so many young people are caught up in the riches and glitz and glamour of a famous lifestyle, and just can't handle the peer pressure. It's very sad.

I agree. I don't think it had anything to do with his role as a gay cowboy either. There are other actors who have played similar roles who are still alive today.

The whole Hollywood scene is just so totally unhealthy and unwholesome. It takes a huge toll on people and their lives are destroyed as a result.

TRFrance 01-22-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 364542)
Of course that wouldn't make a lick of difference. After all "we" don't watch TV because of Hollywood..... and Hollywood is evil because they broadcast on TV. I'm sure that reasoning makes sense to someone out there...... To the rest, it is just circular reasoning.

Good grief.
Must everything be turned into a TV/no-TV discussion?

First of all, Hollywood is "evil" because they put out evil stuff, not because they broadcast on TV.

Anyone with with even minimal discernment knows that Hollywood has long been a tool of the devil, whether they watch TV or not! So whats your point?

Ron 01-22-2008 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 364540)
Wouldn't that be our responsibility to reach out to save them?

It would. Right now they ain't listening!

Hence "GOD" needs to sovereignly move if there is ever to be a change in Hollywood!

CC1 01-22-2008 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 364558)
It would. Right now they ain't listening!

Hence "GOD" needs to sovereignly move if there is ever to be a change in Hollywood!


I don't think that accidental overdoses or even suicide have anything to do with "God's sovereignty".

Ron 01-22-2008 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 364542)
Of course that wouldn't make a lick of difference. After all "we" don't watch TV because of Hollywood..... and Hollywood is evil because they broadcast on TV. I'm sure that reasoning makes sense to someone out there...... To the rest, it is just circular reasoning.

I just said that he probably regrets a lot of choices, brokeback being one of them.

Hollywood is in a mess. Heath is just one of many.

Lindsay, Britney..... all on a pathway of destruction in the pursuit of fame.

Sad.

CC1 01-22-2008 04:35 PM

CNN reporter speaking now is elaborating on the interview he had with Heath Ledger about six weeks ago where Heath was commenting on how disturbed he had become playing the Joker in the new Batman movie.

He said he was had been having trouble sleeping since playing that role and was taking Ambien. That one ambien did not work and even when he would then take a second one he would only sleep about an hour.

The reporter said he appeared dishelveled, unkept, jumpy, etc., during that interview.

I would think he either had mental issues, demon oppression / possession, or both. Mix that with drug addiction and sleeping medications and that is a lethal combination.

Ron 01-22-2008 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 364559)
I don't think that accidental overdoses or even suicide have anything to do with "God's sovereignty".


???????????

MissBrattified 01-22-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 364559)
I don't think that accidental overdoses or even suicide have anything to do with "God's sovereignty".

I does have to do with God being absent from many unhappy and unsatisfactory lives.

CC1 01-22-2008 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 364564)
I does have to do with God being absent from many unhappy and unsatisfactory lives.

Absolutely! One more incident that proves fame, looks, and money do not bring happiness.

MissBrattified 01-22-2008 04:38 PM

Brokeback Mountain didn't hurt his career; in many ways, it probably boosted it. Whether America in general liked the movie or not, Hollywood of course oohed and aahed over it in their usual lascivious manner.

I agree with Felicity and whoever else said--its just a tough way of life, and some people can't take it. Understandable, really. Sad, definitely.

RandyWayne 01-22-2008 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 364557)
Good grief.
Must everything be turned into a TV/no-TV discussion?

First of all, Hollywood is "evil" because they put out evil stuff, not because they broadcast on TV.

Anyone with with even minimal discernment knows that Hollywood has long been a tool of the devil, whether they watch TV or not! So whats your point?

The point is that many don't think Hollywood is worth saving.... because they broadcast on TV. Just look at some of the fellow posters with their one sentence "We don't do that in our church..." lines.

Thank GOD they are in the minority.

Ron 01-22-2008 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 364579)
The point is that many don't think Hollywood is worth saving.... because they broadcast on TV. Just look at some of the fellow posters with their one sentence "We don't do that in our church..." lines.

Thank GOD they are in the minority.

Hollywood can't be saved!

However, by God's Grace it would be nice to see some movie people come to God.

I heard quite a few years ago that Robert Redford & Robert Duvall dropped into one of our California Churches for service.

CC1 01-22-2008 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 364585)
Hollywood can't be saved!

However, by God's Grace it would be nice to see some movie people come to God.

I heard quite a few years ago that Robert Redford & Robert Duvall dropped into one of our California Churches for service.


I am sure they immediately were convicted of their short sleeve shirts and shorts.

(Robert Duval spent a lot of time with a former UPC preacher in the South preparing for filming "The Apostle" and I believe also befriended some other Pentecostal preachers during that period of time)

rgcraig 01-22-2008 05:40 PM

I've heard that Denzel Washington is Cogic - - anyone else heard this?

Neck 01-22-2008 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 364442)
I just saw a newsflash on my computer saying that an actor named Heath Ledger was just found dead. He had played a cowboy in Brokeback Mountain who was gay. I read a recent article that said his career had nosedived after that role.

Could it be that the whole world doesn't buy into perversion?

This is the third young actor in three weeks found dead they said.

His career actually was in an upward turn. I pray for his family.

I understand the movie was wrong and would not support that life style.

I just pray for his family, his 2 year old daughter and his frineds...

I am thankful that I know the Lord...

Cindy 01-22-2008 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 364640)
I've heard that Denzel Washington is Cogic - - anyone else heard this?

I read an interview he did for Reader's Digest, it didn't say if he was Cogic or not but he seems to be a man of great faith.

Neck 01-22-2008 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 364654)
I read an interview he did for Reader's Digest, it didn't say if he was Cogic or not but he seems to be a man of great faith.

Denzel Wahington:

Denzel Washington was raised the son of a Pentecostal preacher, a preacher for the predominantly black denomination know as the Church of God in Christ. Denzel Washington is currently a member of a Church of God congregation in Los Angeles, to which he has generously given millions of dollars.

Denzel and Majic Johnson gave millions to help convert a strip mall into a mega COGIC facility.

Here is a link to the article:

http://www.charismamag.com/blake/index.php

rgcraig 01-22-2008 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Neckstadt (Post 364658)
Denzel Wahington:

Denzel Washington was raised the son of a Pentecostal preacher, a preacher for the predominantly black denomination know as the Church of God in Christ. Denzel Washington is currently a member of a Church of God congregation in Los Angeles, to which he has generously given millions of dollars.

Denzel and Majic Johnson gave millions to help convert a strip mall into a mega COGIC facility.

Here is a link to the article:

http://www.charismamag.com/blake/index.php

Thanks!

Ronzo 01-22-2008 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 364442)
I just saw a newsflash on my computer saying that an actor named Heath Ledger was just found dead. He had played a cowboy in Brokeback Mountain who was gay. I read a recent article that said his career had nosedived after that role.

Could it be that the whole world doesn't buy into perversion?

This is the third young actor in three weeks found dead they said.

Let's all rejoice over the tragedy that's befallen the guy who played a gay cowboy.... :grumpy:rant:beatdeadhorse

MissBrattified 01-22-2008 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronzo (Post 364666)
Let's all rejoice over the tragedy that's befallen the guy who played a gay cowboy.... :grumpy:rant:beatdeadhorse

Ron, is that really what you got out of TD's comments? Come on now....:covereyes (Or from any comments on this thread, for that matter.)

Ronzo 01-22-2008 06:09 PM

That's what I get as the predominate attitude from the church as a whole... a guy or girl who lies and steals is more easily forgiven than a 'homo'....

MissBrattified 01-22-2008 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronzo (Post 364673)
That's what I get as the predominate attitude from the church as a whole... a guy or girl who lies and steals is more easily forgiven than a 'homo'....

So you're just trying to hijack the thread? :D

RandyWayne 01-22-2008 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronzo (Post 364673)
That's what I get as the predominate attitude from the church as a whole... a guy or girl who lies and steals is more easily forgiven than a 'homo'....

For many in church, a homo, or a guy who played one on TV, is the only truly unforgivable sin.

Ronzo 01-22-2008 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 364679)
For many in church, a homo, or a guy who played one on TV, is the only truly unforgivable sin.

Tell me about it


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