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Scott Hutchinson 01-24-2008 07:58 PM

Are The Jonas Bros. Appropriate ?
 
Do you think the Jonas Brothers are appropriate for pre-teen and teen age girls to listen to ?
http://jonasbrothers.com

Mrs. LPW 01-24-2008 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 367195)
Do you think the Jonas Brothers are appropriate for pre-teen and teen age girls to listen to ?
http://jonasbrothers.com

I'm going to show my conservative side here... I hope to instill the values into my children, to want to listen to music that gives Glory to God... not that there aren't nice secular love and thought provoking songs out there.
But I prefer that they use music for the purpose it was created for.

I also can't stand heavy rock sounds.. even with Christian lyrics... so here's hoping my boys will prefer easier listening. :)

Cindy 01-24-2008 08:14 PM

No Bro. Scott I don't. But I am not a pre-teen or teenage girl. But I did notice on the website that one of the boys was shirtless and the other had his shirt undone but still on.

Praxeas 01-24-2008 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 367213)
No Bro. Scott I don't. But I am not a pre-teen or teenage girl. But I did notice on the website that one of the boys was shirtless and the other had his shirt undone but still on.

Soooooo......are they ok for teen boys to listen to?

Cindy 01-24-2008 08:25 PM

I don't think so Prax, but Bro. Scott asked a specific question.

Mrs. LPW 01-24-2008 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 367239)
Soooooo......are they ok for teen boys to listen to?

I hope not :shocked: If my teen boys suddenly want to listen to the heart-throb boy bands... I'm going to be on my knees!

Cindy 01-24-2008 08:27 PM

But they probably sing about luvvvvvvvvvvv MRS.LPW.

Mrs. LPW 01-24-2008 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 367249)
But they probably sing about luvvvvvvvvvvv MRS.LPW.

:toofunny I went to their site... I can't understand what they're singing about HA...
I'm such an old person!

Right now my little guy prefers "the little birdie with the yellow bill"
Hope it stays that way for a bit!

AGAPE 01-24-2008 09:14 PM

I have some recordings of The Sullivan family from the 1950's


:>)

MrsBOOMM 01-24-2008 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 367263)
:toofunny I went to their site... I can't understand what they're singing about HA...
I'm such an old person!

Right now my little guy prefers "the little birdie with the yellow bill"
Hope it stays that way for a bit!

I remember when my daughter was about 3-4. POL had just come out with a new project with the song I Won't Turn Back on it. I can remember putting it on and cleaning and stuff and walking in to hear her...."I won't turn back, I won't turn back, I won't turn back now! She would sing and bounce to it all over the living room. Such precious memories! She would be in the back seat of the car and the cd would be on and without us even realizing she had memorized the song she would start singing right along with the music. One night she started singing...."The Potter Wants To Put You Back Together Again" We had other people in the car with us and she started out singing. Sometimes I wounder if the Lord was using her at that young age.

Cindy 01-24-2008 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsBOOMM (Post 367346)
I remember when my daughter was about 3-4. POL had just come out with a new project with the song I Won't Turn Back on it. I can remember putting it on and cleaning and stuff and walking in to hear her...."I won't turn back, I won't turn back, I won't turn back now! She would sing and bounce to it all over the living room. Such precious memories! She would be in the back seat of the car and the cd would be on and without us even realizing she had memorized the song she would start singing right along with the music. One night she started singing...."The Potter Wants To Put You Back Together Again" We had other people in the car with us and she started out singing. Sometimes I wounder if the Lord was using her at that young age.

Oh yes I do believe the Lord was using her. I too learned to sing at a very young age. Since all I heard was from Gospel Radio or at church that is all I knew.

Mrs. LPW 01-25-2008 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MrsBOOMM (Post 367346)
I remember when my daughter was about 3-4. POL had just come out with a new project with the song I Won't Turn Back on it. I can remember putting it on and cleaning and stuff and walking in to hear her...."I won't turn back, I won't turn back, I won't turn back now! She would sing and bounce to it all over the living room. Such precious memories! She would be in the back seat of the car and the cd would be on and without us even realizing she had memorized the song she would start singing right along with the music. One night she started singing...."The Potter Wants To Put You Back Together Again" We had other people in the car with us and she started out singing. Sometimes I wounder if the Lord was using her at that young age.

What a story! I hope I can pass on my love for Gospel music to my sons. I've been singing around the house since I was 5 and my parents came into church... I sang along with all their tapes and records.

"You can't be a beacon if your light don't shine" Wow.. that just brought me back to my childhood. I can almost feel the green shag carpet under my feet.

MissBrattified 01-25-2008 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 367195)
Do you think the Jonas Brothers are appropriate for pre-teen and teen age girls to listen to ?
http://jonasbrothers.com

Bro. Scott, from what I've seen, the Jonas Brothers are one of the more "wholesome" heartthrob groups. However, we do try to encourage our girls to listen to Christian music. With kids, you can't just say "Don't listen to that", unless you are going to give them a viable substitute. (Well, you can, but it may not work.)

If your daughter likes that sound, you might try buying her some CD's by artists such as Pure NRG, Britt Nicole, Barlow Girl...I can't think of any Christian boy bands at the moment. Maybe someone else knows of some.

My 10 year old loves Pure NRG, and Barlow Girl's songs have great lyrics with messages about purity, friends, Psalm 73, boys, etc.

One of the new songs by Britt Nicole is really cool. I Want To Set the World On Fire.

Favorite by Barlow Girl - Never Alone

There is plenty of great Christian music in just about every genre. A little parental research and a little investment, and you can point your kids in the right direction. We tell our kids that music affects their soul, so they need to listen to music that glorifies God or at least has a positive message. We also reserve the right to eliminate music based on the artist alone, if they are very corrupt.

Sarah brought home a CD one of the girls at school made for her with somewhat suggestive lyrics, so Jeff showed her the lyrics online and let her read along for herself. (He also showed her the artist's website, with the very suggestively dressed and posed artist.) We asked her some leading questions, and then allowed her to come to the conclusion that she needed to find someone different to listen to. (A guided decision, of course.)

Sometimes kids just listen to the music, and don't really know who they're listening to.

pelathais 01-25-2008 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 367195)
Do you think the Jonas Brothers are appropriate for pre-teen and teen age girls to listen to ?
http://jonasbrothers.com

LOL. I had to laugh, sorry. There's a big luxury fur coat retailer in our area called "Jonas Brothers."

I was going to say- "That's NEVER a good thing for your teen-aged daughter to be involved in!"

Don't know anything about the singers, however. Sorry. :bigweightlift:

Cindy 01-25-2008 09:28 AM

I agree with MissB, I have listened to Barlow Girls since my 19 year old does. That CD gets passed around in our family as my 14 yr old granddaughter also likes them. Going to see if I can find the others you mentioned MissB thanks.

bishopnl 01-25-2008 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 367195)
Do you think the Jonas Brothers are appropriate for pre-teen and teen age girls to listen to ?
http://jonasbrothers.com

In my opinion there's nothing wrong with the Jonas Brothers.

Focus on the Family did a review not too long ago on their self-titled album. They usually divide music reviews into three parts: Pro-social content (any positive themes the music may have), objectionable content (speaks for itself) and a summary regarding the artists and music. This is what they say about the Jonas Brothers.

"Despite being in love with being in love, these three sibs from Jersey are as upbeat and trouble-free as it gets. Already heavily promoted on Disney Channel, they'll play spies in a 2008 series called J.O.N.A.S. Joe Jonas says, "We're aiming for people our age, but we also want to get kids younger than us." OK by us. Just keep it clean. "

As long as pre-teens and teens are keeping a balance in their music in regards to Christian and secular, it's my opinion that parents should be so lucky if their kids are buying up albums like the Jonas Brothers or Hannah Montana.

P.S. The music review can be found at pluggedinonline.com, which, btw, is an excellent resource for Christians who want to double check on music, movies, and TV shows. It even has the occassional video game review, as well.

Cindy 01-25-2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bishopnl (Post 368003)
In my opinion there's nothing wrong with the Jonas Brothers.

Focus on the Family did a review not too long ago on their self-titled album. They usually divide music reviews into three parts: Pro-social content (any positive themes the music may have), objectionable content (speaks for itself) and a summary regarding the artists and music. This is what they say about the Jonas Brothers.

"Despite being in love with being in love, these three sibs from Jersey are as upbeat and trouble-free as it gets. Already heavily promoted on Disney Channel, they'll play spies in a 2008 series called J.O.N.A.S. Joe Jonas says, "We're aiming for people our age, but we also want to get kids younger than us." OK by us. Just keep it clean. "

As long as pre-teens and teens are keeping a balance in their music in regards to Christian and secular, it's my opinion that parents should be so lucky if their kids are buying up albums like the Jonas Brothers or Hannah Montana.

P.S. The music review can be found at pluggedinonline.com, which, btw, is an excellent resource for Christians who want to double check on music, movies, and TV shows. It even has the occassional video game review, as well.

Disney is not something I would look for to promote cleanness. The corporation is anything but clean. But what I saw on the Jonas Brothers website would make me think twice about letting kids attend their concerts if they are going to be shirtless or open shirts how are they different than a rock group?

AGAPE 01-25-2008 11:29 AM

some decent contemporary groups

4Him
Casting Crowns

MissBrattified 01-25-2008 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AGAPE (Post 368051)
some decent contemporary groups

4Him
Casting Crowns

Casting Crowns is great! I love "Praise You In This Storm."

Cindy 01-25-2008 11:36 AM

My granddaughter loaned me her Casting Crowns DVD it is awesome. I haven't heard any 4him in a long time, I really like their music. I especially like If We Are The Body by Third Day. I have a lot of Third Day on my computer now. 2 of my kids and their spouses went to a Third Day concert in Tyler.

bishopnl 01-25-2008 12:17 PM

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Disney is not something I would look for to promote cleanness. The corporation is anything but clean. But what I saw on the Jonas Brothers website would make me think twice about letting kids attend their concerts if they are going to be shirtless or open shirts how are they different than a rock group?
Well, the question was regarding whether their music was ok to listen too...nothing was said about visuals.

However, since you brought it up, I don't necessarily agree with the appearance of all Christian artists either. If the qualifications for artists must be that they always wear attire you approve of, I suggest that you may find yourself somewhat limited in what you are going to listen too.

As for Disney, there are some things about them I don't like, but in terms of wholesomeness, there are few things in the entertainment industry today that are as moral and wholesome as many Disney productions. I personally have watched practically every episode of Hannah Montana and the Suite Life of Zack and Cody, and I cannot think of any objectionable content. If parents are objecting to music and TV shows like these, then what in heaven's name is allowable?

Cindy 01-25-2008 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bishopnl (Post 368104)
Well, the question was regarding whether their music was ok to listen too...nothing was said about visuals.

However, since you brought it up, I don't necessarily agree with the appearance of all Christian artists either. If the qualifications for artists must be that they always wear attire you approve of, I suggest that you may find yourself somewhat limited in what you are going to listen too.

As for Disney, there are some things about them I don't like, but in terms of wholesomeness, there are few things in the entertainment industry today that are as moral and wholesome as many Disney productions. I personally have watched practically every episode of Hannah Montana and the Suite Life of Zack and Cody, and I cannot think of any objectionable content. If parents are objecting to music and TV shows like these, then what in heaven's name is allowable?


Bishop I have no problem with the two shows that you mentioned. My 4 yr. old grandson loves Hannah Montana as does 1 of my granddaughters. I have also watched both of these and agree that almost all of it is cleaner than a lot of cartoons. I have a problem with the Disney Corporation and some of the messages that come out in their Animated Movies, such as the Shrek series. It is imperative that parents or grandparents monitor what their children and grandchildren watch. We do set the boundaries for them. There are shows I won't watch or let my grandchildren watch. I like Animal Planet and the Discovery Channel but my grandkids don't like a lot of the programs on these channels.....lol

DividedThigh 01-25-2008 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 368116)
Bishop I have no problem with the two shows that you mentioned. My 4 yr. old grandson loves Hannah Montana as does 1 of my granddaughters. I have also watched both of these and agree that almost all of it is cleaner than a lot of cartoons. I have a problem with the Disney Corporation and some of the messages that come out in their Animated Movies, such as the Shrek series. It is imperative that parents or grandparents monitor what their children and grandchildren watch. We do set the boundaries for them. There are shows I won't watch or let my grandchildren watch. I like Animal Planet and the Discovery Channel but my grandkids don't like a lot of the programs on these channels.....lol

you are so right and just crack me up cneasttx, monitoring is the best policy for all media, lol,dt:tvhappy

MissBrattified 01-25-2008 12:34 PM

If there are better choices, then we should offer them to our children. There's lots of secular material that is wholesome and appropriate, but if we can offer them a Christ-based alternative (and not in the sense that it is second best), then we should do that.

Music in particular is very powerful, so it needs to be carefully filtered and utilized to its best potential, especially with children. I like what Dr. Phil says--"Children are a blank slate; you write upon them every day of their lives!"

bishopnl 01-25-2008 12:50 PM

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If there are better choices, then we should offer them to our children. There's lots of secular material that is wholesome and appropriate, but if we can offer them a Christ-based alternative (and not in the sense that it is second best), then we should do that.
Like I said, I believe a balance needs to be involved.

But that, IMO, in no way excludes the fact that the Jonas Brothers are clean, wholesome entertainment that is safe for children to listen too.

As for music, I agree it is powerful...but it is no more powerful than things that kids watch. So, IMO, it would be inconsistent to insist that a child listen to ONLY Christian music, but then allow them to take in other forms of entertainment that are not Christian based. Not that I'm saying anyone here is suggesting that....but frankly, as long as the music is clean and doesn't contain a lot of objectionable content, I don't think it HAS to be Christian. I read books and watch movies that aren't Christian...I also read books and watch movies that are. As long as a good balance is maintained, I don't see an issue.

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I have a problem with the Disney Corporation and some of the messages that come out in their Animated Movies, such as the Shrek series. It is imperative that parents or grandparents monitor what their children and grandchildren watch. We do set the boundaries for them.
I agree, parents must monitor. I think the Focus on the Family site is a great place to do that...and they don't see anything objectionable about the JoBros and neither do I. Not that I listen to them, but I wouldn't see anything wrong with teens or pre-teens doing so.

Cindy 01-25-2008 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bishopnl (Post 368142)
Like I said, I believe a balance needs to be involved.

But that, IMO, in no way excludes the fact that the Jonas Brothers are clean, wholesome entertainment that is safe for children to listen too.

As for music, I agree it is powerful...but it is no more powerful than things that kids watch. So, IMO, it would be inconsistent to insist that a child listen to ONLY Christian music, but then allow them to take in other forms of entertainment that are not Christian based. Not that I'm saying anyone here is suggesting that....but frankly, as long as the music is clean and doesn't contain a lot of objectionable content, I don't think it HAS to be Christian. I read books and watch movies that aren't Christian...I also read books and watch movies that are. As long as a good balance is maintained, I don't see an issue.



I agree, parents must monitor. I think the Focus on the Family site is a great place to do that...and they don't see anything objectionable about the JoBros and neither do I. Not that I listen to them, but I wouldn't see anything wrong with teens or pre-teens doing so.


Bishop you are probably right about the Jonas Brothers music. I have not heard of it. My first post was answering a direct question that Bro. Scott asked. I went to the link provided and saw a picture of them at one of their concerts and they just looked like a young rock band to me. But what young children are exposed to has a very strong influence on them. So if it is ok to watch a boy band with their shirt off why is it not ok to watch a girl or girl band with skimpy clothes on? Their music might be "clean" but what about their mannerisms and standards in concert and promotion.

ChTatum 01-25-2008 11:58 PM

No, they are not appropriate.
They are appearing on "Ellen".

DaisyP 01-26-2008 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 368116)
Bishop I have no problem with the two shows that you mentioned. My 4 yr. old grandson loves Hannah Montana as does 1 of my granddaughters. I have also watched both of these and agree that almost all of it is cleaner than a lot of cartoons. I have a problem with the Disney Corporation and some of the messages that come out in their Animated Movies, such as the Shrek series. It is imperative that parents or grandparents monitor what their children and grandchildren watch. We do set the boundaries for them. There are shows I won't watch or let my grandchildren watch. I like Animal Planet and the Discovery Channel but my grandkids don't like a lot of the programs on these channels.....lol

For what it's worth, Disney didn't have anything to do with SHREK. That was done by DreamWorks. :winkgrin

Cindy 01-26-2008 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DaisyP (Post 368919)
For what it's worth, Disney didn't have anything to do with SHREK. That was done by DreamWorks. :winkgrin

Thank you DaisyP, for the correction. :girlytantrum :D

MissBrattified 01-26-2008 09:27 AM

I didn't say it all needed to be Christian. That would be pretty pointless of me, since saying such would knock out all the fairy tales I read my kids, a lot of silly kids' songs, and who knows what else! (As well as the bawdy sailor songs my Daddy taught me, which I've passed on to my own kids! :D)

I'm just saying that children are impressionable, and we should choose what they watch, read and listen to with more care than we put forth choosing material for ourselves.

Disney is, for the most part, "wholesome." Especially if you use other worldly material as the measuring stick. However, that doesn't mean its ideal, and that there isn't better material to choose.

By the way, the second book of Narnia has been made into a movie - "Narnia: Prince Caspian." I can't wait to see that!

Cindy 01-26-2008 10:00 AM

My oldest granddaughter loves Narnia. However the Harry Potter series of movies were kept out of their house. Along with the books. I try to find her old books at garage sales. She also has a lot of the Little House On The Prairie books.


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