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deacon blues 01-29-2008 09:19 PM

McCain Is the Only Hope of the GOP & America
 
He's got a stellar conservative record on abortion. He is pro family and anti gay agenda. He is an American hero. He has NEVER inserted ONE earmark in any apropriations bill in his ENTIRE Senate career. He is not owned by any lobbyist, any company, corporation, special interest.

He isn't owned by the GOP. The Republicans ruled Washington in the White House and the Congress fro six years and somehow could not even ban partial birth abortion. They could not make the tax cuts permanent. They got messed up in the Jack Abramoff lobbyist scandal. They spent money worse than the Democrats ever did. W NEVER vetoed ONE spending bill for excessive and wasteful spending. They wasted a golden opportunity in six years. The only thing they really did right was the original tax cuts, the Supreme Court appointments and the War on Terror, although Rumsfeld's advice was wrong (on a smaller force in Iraq---one which McCain originally spoke out in opposition of and one which the "surge" has proven to be right.) Their mismanagement cost us the majority in the Congress. That was on a "true" conservatives watch, one that reads the Bible everyday and is an avowed Christian.

McCain broke with his party he says whenever he felt it was in the best interests of his country. When he has had to choose between his party and his country, his country will win every time.

He will fight this war on terror right, something the Democrats will not.

Romney has a much more liberal record than McCain. He was Pro-Choice when it was convenient when running for Governor of Massachusetts. He suddenly is now pro-life? Please! The Dems will eat his lunch if he is the nominee. They will recycle those old John Kerry flip-flop commercials and paint him in a most unfavorable light. At least with McCain you know where he stands.

If you stay home this election---you are guaranteeing that the Dems will win the White House. And that, my friends, is a risk not worth taking. Don't stay home if your man doesn't get in, or the GOP nominee is less conservative than you. You might have to vote just to keep Hillary or Obama out.

Be wise. Think beyond Rush Limbaugh's radio program. I listen to him everyday and he certainly is not the bastion of godliness! Besides he admits to being right 98.9% of the time.

This time he's wrong about McCain.

We aren't always going to get Ronald Reagan every time, unfortunately.

Cindy 01-29-2008 09:24 PM

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Did he win in Florida? I think Romney is gonna be gone soon.

seguidordejesus 01-29-2008 09:27 PM

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What, you don't think Giuliani's gonna get the nom?

Whatever happened to Huckabee?

deacon blues 01-29-2008 09:42 PM

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McCain won the Florida primary. He is in the driver's seat. Guiliani is rumored on the news that he is quitting tomorrow and endorsing McCain.

DividedThigh 01-30-2008 08:30 AM

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we will se what happens but i would have preferred thompson, but he is gone, god help us, dt:tvhappy

Aquila 01-30-2008 08:50 AM

Re: McCain Is the Only Hope of the GOP & America
 
McCain is often hot tempered and and snappy. He's really toned himself down a bit recently in this campaign though. I don't think McCain is a stellar conservative. When he ran against Bush his lack of conservatism hurt him. McCain has supported Roe, though saying he's prolife, McCain even supported stem cell research. McCain's record with free trade is spotty.

When I look at the field and see who's rising to the top in both parties it's evident to me that Reganomics dead. The Republicans leading the pack are largely populist and progressive when it comes to economics. They'd make good late 80's early 90's Democrats.

I think it's time we wake up. The Republicans have no intention to address abortion and gay marriage. Some of the most powerful Republican constituents support abortion rights and gay marriage. Around every election they come out talking about life and values and then get into their pro-corporate money making schemes that nearly wreck the economy. Our economy has taken a big hit, the value of the dollar is down, the housing market is devastated...these cats are rotten to the core. They changed "deregulate", and "less governmental regulations in banking"...they got what they wanted and predatory lending practices got us here.

I don't think the Republicans are worth a lick. The Democrats aren't much better. The only thing we'd have going for us under the Democrats is that they might be grateful enough to actually listen to the American people and return to a Pro-American domestic policy that the Republicans completely abandoned.

DividedThigh 01-30-2008 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 373865)
McCain is often hot tempered and and snappy. He's really toned himself down a bit recently in this campaign though. I don't think McCain is a stellar conservative. When he ran against Bush his lack of conservatism hurt him. McCain has supported Roe, though saying he's prolife, McCain even supported stem cell research. McCain's record with free trade is spotty.

When I look at the field and see who's rising to the top in both parties it's evident to me that Reganomics dead. The Republicans leading the pack are largely populist and progressive when it comes to economics. They'd make good late 80's early 90's Democrats.

I think it's time we wake up. The Republicans have no intention to address abortion and gay marriage. Some of the most powerful Republican constituents support abortion rights and gay marriage. Around every election they come out talking about life and values and then get into their pro-corporate money making schemes that nearly wreck the economy. Our economy has taken a big hit, the value of the dollar is down, the housing market is devastated...these cats are rotten to the core. They changed "deregulate", and "less governmental regulations in banking"...they got what they wanted and predatory lending practices got us here.

I don't think the Republicans are worth a lick. The Democrats aren't much better. The only thing we'd have going for us under the Democrats is that they might be grateful enough to actually listen to the American people and return to a Pro-American domestic policy that the Republicans completely abandoned.

i some things aquila i would agree with you, but the only way to address the abortion thing is the courts, and gwb did good with his appointees, that will be a big deal for the next president, dont you think, dt:tvhappy

RevBuddy 01-30-2008 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 373879)
i some things aquila i would agree with you, but the only way to address the abortion thing is the courts, and gwb did good with his appointees, that will be a big deal for the next president, dont you think, dt:tvhappy

I have the same concerns as Aquila about McCain, but he may just be the only option for me. I would like him to be a tad more conservative and to oppose Democratic stupidity more...but DividedThigh, you may be right - we can't have a Reagan every time...

DividedThigh 01-30-2008 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RevBuddy (Post 373885)
I have the same concerns as Aquila about McCain, but he may just be the only option for me. I would like him to be a tad more conservative and to oppose Democratic stupidity more...but DividedThigh, you may be right - we can't have a Reagan every time...

i agree we cant no doubt, i wish, but i certainly wont vote for a socialist, so hilary and obama are not gettin my vote, lol,dt:tvhappy

RevBuddy 01-30-2008 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 373888)
i agree we cant no doubt, i wish, but i certainly wont vote for a socialist, so hilary and obama are not gettin my vote, lol,dt:tvhappy

Vote Democratic????? That's unapostolic, unPentecostal, un"fill in the blank"...

Not going to happen here!!

OP_Carl 01-30-2008 09:13 AM

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McCain is not a true conservative, and his views on the military-industrial complex, and on government authority, ought to chill any conservative's ardor for him. Alas, if he is nominated, we are left dumbfounded at the ballot box gulping, 'I hope this guy is better than a slimy socialist.' And, as we see with George W. Bush, a "man of principle" who turns out to be a big-government Republican who USED the religious right to get elected, and then turned a deaf ear to them, is not necessarily going to be an indicator of progress towards limited government and constitutional purity.

Pressing-On 01-30-2008 09:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 373865)
McCain is often hot tempered and and snappy. He's really toned himself down a bit recently in this campaign though. I don't think McCain is a stellar conservative. When he ran against Bush his lack of conservatism hurt him. McCain has supported Roe, though saying he's prolife, McCain even supported stem cell research. McCain's record with free trade is spotty.

When I look at the field and see who's rising to the top in both parties it's evident to me that Reganomics dead. The Republicans leading the pack are largely populist and progressive when it comes to economics. They'd make good late 80's early 90's Democrats.

I think it's time we wake up. The Republicans have no intention to address abortion and gay marriage. Some of the most powerful Republican constituents support abortion rights and gay marriage. Around every election they come out talking about life and values and then get into their pro-corporate money making schemes that nearly wreck the economy. Our economy has taken a big hit, the value of the dollar is down, the housing market is devastated...these cats are rotten to the core. They changed "deregulate", and "less governmental regulations in banking"...they got what they wanted and predatory lending practices got us here.

I don't think the Republicans are worth a lick. The Democrats aren't much better. The only thing we'd have going for us under the Democrats is that they might be grateful enough to actually listen to the American people and return to a Pro-American domestic policy that the Republicans completely abandoned.

Ditto.

I can settle for McCain because he will stand against terrorism (the Republicans always want a foreign policy president), which has been circumvented by the economy, which isn't in that big of trouble and will right itself and teach people a lesson about their mistakes - if the government would allow it - which they won't.

Stimulus package that we don't need!

DividedThigh 01-30-2008 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RevBuddy (Post 373894)
Vote Democratic????? That's unapostolic, unPentecostal, un"fill in the blank"...

Not going to happen here!!

isnt it funny, when i was a kid all my family were kennedy dems and 20 years later were all reagan republicans, lol, what a funny world, ever changing, dt:tvhappy

DividedThigh 01-30-2008 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by OP_Carl (Post 373896)
McCain is not a true conservative, and his views on the military-industrial complex, and on government authority, ought to chill any conservative's ardor for him. Alas, if he is nominated, we are left dumbfounded at the ballot box gulping, 'I hope this guy is better than a slimy socialist.' And, as we see with George W. Bush, a "man of principle" who turns out to be a big-government Republican who USED the religious right to get elected, and then turned a deaf ear to them, is not necessarily going to be an indicator of progress towards limited government and constitutional purity.

so true, bro, so true, gulp is right, dt:tvhappy

RevBuddy 01-30-2008 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 373899)
isnt it funny, when i was a kid all my family were kennedy dems and 20 years later were all reagan republicans, lol, what a funny world, ever changing, dt:tvhappy

What's even more interesting is that there is still support for the Democratic Party in many areas of the South and with Pentecostal families. We grew up in the period when the Democratic Party was the ONLY party of the South, and many have not changed their party affiliation or voting habits, in spite of the fact the Democratic Party has long ago left its Roosevelt, Truman and Kennedy roots...

But, even 20 years ago, DividedThigh, I was a Republican...what foresight and vision!!!

DividedThigh 01-30-2008 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RevBuddy (Post 373906)
What's even more interesting is that there is still support for the Democratic Party in many areas of the South and with Pentecostal families. We grew up in the period when the Democratic Party was the ONLY party of the South, and many have not changed their party affiliation or voting habits, in spite of the fact the Democratic Party has long ago left its Roosevelt, Truman and Kennedy roots...

But, even 20 years ago, DividedThigh, I was a Republican...what foresight and vision!!!

me too, wow, that is almost prophetic, lol, dt:tvhappy

Aquila 01-30-2008 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RevBuddy (Post 373906)
What's even more interesting is that there is still support for the Democratic Party in many areas of the South and with Pentecostal families. We grew up in the period when the Democratic Party was the ONLY party of the South, and many have not changed their party affiliation or voting habits, in spite of the fact the Democratic Party has long ago left its Roosevelt, Truman and Kennedy roots...

But, even 20 years ago, DividedThigh, I was a Republican...what foresight and vision!!!

The Republicans are selling your country to the lowest bidder...and you don't care. They wave a flag and talk great swelling words about values and it makes you feel comfortable voting for them...then they sell you and every other American family down the river. How can you even sleep at night?

The Republicans are master manipulators when it comes to religion. They have learned to use religion and phony patriotism to get blind followers. It's the same ol' thing we've seen down through history time and time again.

rosebud 01-30-2008 09:22 AM

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I would vote for a Democrat before I voted for McCain:reaction. And it would be the first time in 30 years since I voted Democrat.:drama

DividedThigh 01-30-2008 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rosebud (Post 373911)
I would vote for a Democrat before I voted for McCain:reaction. And it would be the first time in 30 years since I voted Democrat.:drama

not good, sis, dont know what to tell you, i just cant bring myself to vote for a pro abortion candidate, cant do it, dt

ReformedDave 01-30-2008 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OP_Carl (Post 373896)
McCain is not a true conservative, and his views on the military-industrial complex, and on government authority, ought to chill any conservative's ardor for him. Alas, if he is nominated, we are left dumbfounded at the ballot box gulping, 'I hope this guy is better than a slimy socialist.' And, as we see with George W. Bush, a "man of principle" who turns out to be a big-government Republican who USED the religious right to get elected, and then turned a deaf ear to them, is not necessarily going to be an indicator of progress towards limited government and constitutional purity.

Great post!!!! McCain is no conservative.

OP_Carl 01-30-2008 09:28 AM

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I think if it were between McCain and Obama, I'd seriously consider voting for Obama so the Democrats would get the blame and the conservatives would galvanize and re-unify in resistance. Kind of like the Goldwater loss led to the Reagan Revolution 16 years later.

RevBuddy 01-30-2008 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 373909)
The Republicans are selling your country to the lowest bidder...and you don't care. They wave a flag and talk great swelling words about values and it makes you feel comfortable voting for them...then they sell you and every other American family down the river. How can you even sleep at night?

The Republicans are master manipulators when it comes to religion. They have learned to use religion and phony patriotism to get blind followers. It's the same ol' thing we've seen down through history time and time again.

Aquila, I can't say I haven't been very disappointed in the last few years. I had high hopes for GB...and in some ways, he is a victim of circumstance...with the war, economy, etc. I do adamantly disagree with the wholesale government spending...and you may be somewhat correct that the Republican Party takes advantage of the conservative right and religion.

But having said that, I would NEVER under any circumstances support the party of abortion, gay rights and same sex marriage, etc... it is the extreme liberal social issues of the Democratic Party that I loath and will NEVER support. They are a force set on destroying the family...sorry, but NO THANKS...

Pressing-On 01-30-2008 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RevBuddy (Post 373918)
Aquila, I can't say I haven't been very disappointed in the last few years. I had high hopes for GB...and in some ways, he is a victim of circumstance...with the war, economy, etc. I do adamantly disagree with the wholesale government spending...and you may be somewhat correct that the Republican Party takes advantage of the conservative right and religion.

But having said that, I would NEVER under any circumstances support the party of abortion, gay rights and same sex marriage, etc... it is the extreme liberal social issues of the Democratic Party that I loath and will NEVER support. They are a force set on destroying the family...sorry, but NO THANKS...

My thoughts, exactly!

OP_Carl 01-30-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RevBuddy (Post 373918)
But having said that, I would NEVER under any circumstances support the party of abortion, gay rights and same sex marriage, etc... it is the extreme liberal social issues of the Democratic Party that I loath and will NEVER support. They are a force set on destroying the family...sorry, but NO THANKS...

Buddy, you are exactly right and I agree with you 100%! Why, when you look at all that the Republicans accomplished for the social agenda of the "religious right" during their six years of majority control, it makes you so proud . . . ohhhhhhhh, wait . . . scratch that . . . they didn't accomplish diddly squat for us. Many conservatives have made some pretty tough cases that they never intended to, either.

We need some flaming freak liberals in the majority, and in control, to shock this country back to its senses. We need gay marriage legalized and protected, and we need it made illegal to preach against homosexuality like it is in Canada. We need to start seeing what the gay lifestyle is really all about, and we need to see the homo activists start pushing for the acceptance of pedophilia. We need to experience the deprivation of socialized medicine firsthand. We need to get so sickened that when we replace the clowns with conservatives, and the first thing the "conservatives" try to do when they arrive in Washington is compromise with socialists, that we pull the rug out from under them and send in a replacement.

We need term limits for congress and a balanced budget amendment. We need to abolish secrecy for earmarks, and McCain-Feingold.

maddy 01-31-2008 10:02 AM

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If you look at history, it repeats itself. We have had in office a Republican for 8 years, No way is a Republican going to win this year. It will be a Democrat. So the question is : Is America ready for the 1st Female President or the 1st Black, Muslim practicing President who will use the Karan to be sworn in???????????

Very interesting.

Aquila 01-31-2008 10:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 373879)
i some things aquila i would agree with you, but the only way to address the abortion thing is the courts, and gwb did good with his appointees, that will be a big deal for the next president, dont you think, dt:tvhappy

Abortion's legality is only paperwork. The real battle is in regards to abortion RATES. For example nations in South America have very strong laws against abortion but they have some of the highest abortion rates in the world. Belgium is very pro-choice but it has the lowest abortion rate in the world.

Abortion's legality is only a matter of paperwork. The battle is in regards to abrotion RATES because that is where lives are actually saved.

Overturning Roe would only be cosmetic. Besides...right now the abortion rate in the US is LOWER than it was before abortion was legal. Interestingly abortion rates may have been lower under Clinton than our current President. Many states have reported spikes in their abortion rates. Interestingly these are states that are seeing more suppressed wages and loss of jobs. When people are broke and afraid they can't raise a family or when women are struggling to just make ends meet they are more likely to choose abortion. Address the issues bro...don't just push paper.

Jobs & Economic Stability of the family is key.

Aquila 01-31-2008 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RevBuddy (Post 373918)
Aquila, I can't say I haven't been very disappointed in the last few years. I had high hopes for GB...and in some ways, he is a victim of circumstance...with the war, economy, etc. I do adamantly disagree with the wholesale government spending...and you may be somewhat correct that the Republican Party takes advantage of the conservative right and religion.

But having said that, I would NEVER under any circumstances support the party of abortion, gay rights and same sex marriage, etc... it is the extreme liberal social issues of the Democratic Party that I loath and will NEVER support. They are a force set on destroying the family...sorry, but NO THANKS...

Let me address some points you made.

Party of Abortion: Name one woman ever forced to have an abortion by the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party’s position on the issue is that the choice ultimately resides upon the individual woman in question. Few Democrats find abortion a good thing. Nearly 41% of Democrats are Pro-Life and see abortion as ultimately the taking of human life. Their angle is that the issue is so complex the government is best left out of it. My personal beef with them is funding abortion with tax dollars. However, my tax dollars have gone for an unnecessary war that has cost over 80,000 Iraqi civilians their lives. Tax dollars will always be used for something someone disagrees with. And just because the funding is there it doesn’t justify the choice if unnecessary. The ultimate blame is on the woman in question. Personally I’d like to see more churches disfellowship women who have aborted. Deny them baptism and communion. The Democrats haven’t aborted a single child. Individual women do this. Besides, most

Gay rights: As long as a person isn’t endangering the life and property of another person what they do privately is their private business. I can tolerate a degree of self expression but within reason. Like it or not this is America.

Same Sex Marriage: Private social contracts made by two sovereign citizens is a privacy issue. Liberal churches wishing to bless these unions make it a religious liberty issue. While I don’t advocate the lifestyle I do believe that in America individuals are free to choose the lifestyle they wish to live. And if a liberal church wishes to recognize such unions, who am I to deny them that religious liberty? While I DON’T AGREE and wouldn’t recognize such unions, the issue is the religious liberty of the religious institution in question. If a denomination like the Episcopals don’t classify it as sin am I to use the policy force of Government to force them to embrace my more conservative Christian interpretation of Scripture? This is America. If we use government to enforce standards of religious practice and private morality we’re in big trouble. And frankly, most same gender couples will not choose marriage. They’re too promiscuous. It would be like a train wreck and most of society would just roll their eyes at it.

Force set on destroying the family: Really? The primary cause of divorce in America is financial problems. Marriages don’t fall apart because some gay couple gets hitched in the FCWH (First Church of Wacko Hippies). Marriages don’t fall apart because a woman chose to have an abortion after her doctor briefed her on dangers to her health. I know more marriages that have fallen apart because they can’t make ends meet and they turn on each other because they’re loosing all they ever worked for. More marriages fall apart after a life shattering illness or bankruptcy than over the number of gays living in their neighborhoods. Those waging war on the family are those who are selling the jobs we need to China and Mexico. Those waging war on the family are those who stand against a living wage that can actually pay the bills. Those waging war on the family are those standing against health insurance that can keep a family out of declaring bankruptcy and loosing every dream they ever had. I know families that have lost their health insurance, jobs, homes, and everything they’ve worked for. And you tell me the biggest threat to my family is what some gay couple is doing in the privacy of their own home? You’re crazy. You’re making gays and women scapegoats for our woes. These people are sinners yes, and their sin should be addressed…but American families need a steady paycheck and health insurance. You’d sell the American family to China if it meant defeating the Democrats…all in the name of the family no doubt.

The biggest threat to the family are those who are not protecting our jobs and our family’s health. The days of being against abortion and gays and calling yourself “pro-family” are over. If you’re pro-family stand up and defend us! It’s getting to the point in America that unless you’re making over $100,000 to $200,000 a year you can’t afford a family. Help the family stay above water and stop bashing on gay people like it’s their fault. I know a family that was in dire financial straights and you know who helped them? A gay family member. Their church wasn’t even willing to help them get out from under the debt that was crushing the life out of them.

If the Democrats will fight to keep more jobs in America, fight to make sure American families have health insurance, and protect us from predatory lending schemes they are far in tune with what we as families need. Families shouldn’t have to choose between food and prescription drug coverage. And in America…America…families shouldn’t have to depend on charity to make it from paycheck to paycheck. Trust me…I’ve been there and the church was NOWHERE for us. When I faithfully tithed for 15 years and when I asked for assistance I was denied and it was explained to me how much the church pays for it’s bills and how it couldn’t afford to help us. It took a state government program to help us get on our feet. The church wasn’t even on the radar. That’s REAL family friendly, let me tell you. I assure you that they’re still preaching about how Democrats are the greatest threat to families. Riiigggghhhht. They don’t have a clue.

Protect our jobs from being sent overseas…we need them to feed our families and to keep roofs over our heads. Help relieve the cost of health insurance. We need it to protect our family’s health.

Or do you just not care?

Show me how abortion and gay rights is threatening my family. Also show me how the evaporation of jobs and families being unable to pay their bills and medical expenses is somehow good for the survival of the family unit.

Aquila 01-31-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by OP_Carl (Post 373960)
Buddy, you are exactly right and I agree with you 100%! Why, when you look at all that the Republicans accomplished for the social agenda of the "religious right" during their six years of majority control, it makes you so proud . . . ohhhhhhhh, wait . . . scratch that . . . they didn't accomplish diddly squat for us. Many conservatives have made some pretty tough cases that they never intended to, either.

We need some flaming freak liberals in the majority, and in control, to shock this country back to its senses. We need gay marriage legalized and protected, and we need it made illegal to preach against homosexuality like it is in Canada. We need to start seeing what the gay lifestyle is really all about, and we need to see the homo activists start pushing for the acceptance of pedophilia. We need to experience the deprivation of socialized medicine firsthand. We need to get so sickened that when we replace the clowns with conservatives, and the first thing the "conservatives" try to do when they arrive in Washington is compromise with socialists, that we pull the rug out from under them and send in a replacement.

We need term limits for congress and a balanced budget amendment. We need to abolish secrecy for earmarks, and McCain-Feingold.

Gay marriage is a private contract between consenting adults. I don’t like it but then again I don’t like many things people do with their freedoms.

Pedophilia isn’t going to get any traction in the United States. And those activists that push for it will be quickly marginalized.

As for the “deprivation of socialized medicine”…most of what you hear about it in the United States is myth. Let’s go talk to some Canadians and Europeans about it. There is a Canadian thread on the topic of comparative health care systems. Trust me…they laugh us to scorn when asked if they want an American-like health care system.

I firmly believe you’re playing on prejudices and not specializing in facts.

Aquila 01-31-2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by maddy (Post 374839)
If you look at history, it repeats itself. We have had in office a Republican for 8 years, No way is a Republican going to win this year. It will be a Democrat. So the question is : Is America ready for the 1st Female President or the 1st Black, Muslim practicing President who will use the Karan to be sworn in???????????

Very interesting.

Speaking of facts…Obama isn’t a “practicing Muslim”…but then again no one expects a “Christian” to be honest with politics.

IAintMovin 01-31-2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 373550)
He's got a stellar conservative record on abortion. He is pro family and anti gay agenda. He is an American hero. He has NEVER inserted ONE earmark in any apropriations bill in his ENTIRE Senate career. He is not owned by any lobbyist, any company, corporation, special interest.

He isn't owned by the GOP. The Republicans ruled Washington in the White House and the Congress fro six years and somehow could not even ban partial birth abortion. They could not make the tax cuts permanent. They got messed up in the Jack Abramoff lobbyist scandal. They spent money worse than the Democrats ever did. W NEVER vetoed ONE spending bill for excessive and wasteful spending. They wasted a golden opportunity in six years. The only thing they really did right was the original tax cuts, the Supreme Court appointments and the War on Terror, although Rumsfeld's advice was wrong (on a smaller force in Iraq---one which McCain originally spoke out in opposition of and one which the "surge" has proven to be right.) Their mismanagement cost us the majority in the Congress. That was on a "true" conservatives watch, one that reads the Bible everyday and is an avowed Christian.

McCain broke with his party he says whenever he felt it was in the best interests of his country. When he has had to choose between his party and his country, his country will win every time.

He will fight this war on terror right, something the Democrats will not.

Romney has a much more liberal record than McCain. He was Pro-Choice when it was convenient when running for Governor of Massachusetts. He suddenly is now pro-life? Please! The Dems will eat his lunch if he is the nominee. They will recycle those old John Kerry flip-flop commercials and paint him in a most unfavorable light. At least with McCain you know where he stands.

If you stay home this election---you are guaranteeing that the Dems will win the White House. And that, my friends, is a risk not worth taking. Don't stay home if your man doesn't get in, or the GOP nominee is less conservative than you. You might have to vote just to keep Hillary or Obama out.

Be wise. Think beyond Rush Limbaugh's radio program. I listen to him everyday and he certainly is not the bastion of godliness! Besides he admits to being right 98.9% of the time.

This time he's wrong about McCain.

We aren't always going to get Ronald Reagan every time, unfortunately.

It is a sad day for America if McCain is our only hope..............very sad day............I dont trust him as far as he can be thrown by a two year old little girl........there is just something about him that aint right in my book............but you McCain lovers carry on..........

Aquila 01-31-2008 11:33 AM

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These guys will vote the Devil himself if he were a Republican.

OP_Carl 01-31-2008 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 374958)
I firmly believe you’re playing on prejudices and not specializing in facts.

I firmly believe the same of you.

rosebud 01-31-2008 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by IAintMovin (Post 374968)
It is a sad day for America if McCain is our only hope..............very sad day............I dont trust him as far as he can be thrown by a two year old little girl........there is just something about him that aint right in my book............but you McCain lovers carry on..........

Ditto!! And I live here in Mc Cain Land "Arizona".

ChristopherHall 01-31-2008 05:04 PM

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Is Obama a practicing Muslim as claimed?

OP_Carl 01-31-2008 05:22 PM

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Nope. That is a myth.

He is COGIC, although you may find his devotion is only about politician-deep.

ChristopherHall 01-31-2008 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OP_Carl (Post 375477)
Nope. That is a myth.

He is COGIC, although you may find his devotion is only about politician-deep.

Do you propose to know the man's heart?

OP_Carl 01-31-2008 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall (Post 375497)
Do you propose to know the man's heart?

Don't await any proposals from me . . . I'm already spoken for!:crazyluv

ChristopherHall 01-31-2008 06:43 PM

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My point is that we are making unfair judgments against a man's character merely because he doesn't agree with us politically. In all honesty, while I don't agree with Obama on every issue, I feel Obama is more honest about what he believes than all the Republicans who are doing their very best to pretend to be the most conservative. I feel like I have to choose a leader who is honest about being liberal or a leader who is lying about being a conservative.

OP_Carl 02-01-2008 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall (Post 375558)
I feel like I have to choose a leader who is honest about being liberal or a leader who is lying about being a conservative.

Yeah . . . . . . . . . it's just too bad about Thompson and Ron Paul, eh?

OP_Carl 02-02-2008 07:20 AM

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Here is a link to the article I found most helpful in understanding John McCain.


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