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Rev 01-31-2008 01:35 PM
Cross Dressers
 
If a man that wears a dress is called a cross dresser

What is a woman called that wears pants?

MissBrattified 01-31-2008 01:38 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
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Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375131)
If a man that wears a dress is called a cross dresser

What is a woman called that wears paints?
Jezebel? :D

Subdued 01-31-2008 01:38 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375131)
If a man that wears a dress is called a cross dresser

What is a woman called that wears paints?
An artist?

dizzyde 01-31-2008 01:39 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375131)
If a man that wears a dress is called a cross dresser

What is a woman called that wears paints?
Rev, is that your accent coming out, or are you talking about makeup??? :toofunny :lol

Rev 01-31-2008 01:42 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
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Originally Posted by dizzyde (Post 375137)
Rev, is that your accent coming out, or are you talking about makeup??? :toofunny :lol
I'm doing good to spell my name right today!

Rev 01-31-2008 01:44 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzyde (Post 375137)
Rev, is that your accent coming out, or are you talking about makeup??? :toofunny :lol
It's like tares instead of tires!

dizzyde 01-31-2008 01:57 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
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Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375143)
It's like tares instead of tires!
I got you!! LOL!! :toofunny :toofunny Like farks instead of forks or light bubs instead of light bulbs, or showders instead of shoulders!!! :toofunny

Michael Phelps 01-31-2008 02:08 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375131)
If a man that wears a dress is called a cross dresser

What is a woman called that wears pants?
Are there dresses made for men? Or are the men wearing women's dresses?

Rev 01-31-2008 02:14 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 375159)
Are there dresses made for men? Or are the men wearing women's dresses?
I don't think they are making dresses for men yet, but as sick as this world is I don't think it will be long before they do.

Michael Phelps 01-31-2008 02:15 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375166)
I don't think they are making dresses for men yet, but as sick as this world is I don't think it will be long before they do.
I'd have to say that if there were dresses made for men, a man wouldn't be cross dressing if he wore one.

However, if he wears a dress made for women with the intent of making himself look like a woman, you might have a point.

Just as if a woman wears pants made for women, I don't see how we can say she's crossdressing.
However, if she wears a man's apparel with the purpose of looking like a man, she's crossdressing.

Rev 01-31-2008 02:18 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 375168)
I'd have to say that if there were dresses made for men, a man wouldn't be cross dressing if he wore one.

However, if he wears a dress made for women with the intent of making himself look like a woman, you might have a point.

Just as if a woman wears pants made for women, I don't see how we can say she's crossdressing.
However, if she wears a man's apparel with the purpose of looking like a man, she's crossdressing.
Women almost never wore pants until the 1940s.

The school where I went would not allow girls to wear pants and it sure wasn't pentecostal.

Michael Phelps 01-31-2008 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375175)
Women almost never wore pants until the 1940s.

The school where I went would not allow girls to wear pants and it sure wasn't pentecostal.
I would agree that traditionally it wasn't acceptable, but do we really have scripture to back the "no pants for women" issue?

StillStanding 01-31-2008 02:22 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375131)
If a man that wears a dress is called a cross dresser

What is a woman called that wears pants?
Rev, what one is called depends on if they're purposefully trying to appear as the opposite sex. Men who are cross-dressers will also wear a wig and carry a purse. Women who are cross-dressers will wear a mustach, comb their hair like a man's or wear a wig, and wear men's shoes.

As to your question about what a woman is called that wears pants - She's call a woman!

Rev 01-31-2008 02:22 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 375178)
I would agree that traditionally it wasn't acceptable, but do we really have scripture to back the "no pants for women" issue?
What was the reason for the tradition? Because all churches taught it at one time.

I have an old, old book written by a Methodist. Dress was very important to them then.

Rev 01-31-2008 02:23 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 375182)
Rev, what one is called depends on if they're purposefully trying to appear as the opposite sex. Men who are cross-dressers will also wear a wig and carry a purse. Women who are cross-dressers will wear a mustach, comb their hair like a man's or wear a wig, and wear men's shoes.

As to your question about what a woman is called that wears pants - She's call a woman!
She's call a woman

That wears pants.

StillStanding 01-31-2008 02:26 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Is it written in the bible that women must wear dresses?

Were dresses invented by the twelve apostles, or were dresses a product of culture? If they were a product of culture, what if that culture changes? Is culture ever allowed to change?

Fiyahstarter 01-31-2008 02:27 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375183)
What was the reason for the tradition? Because all churches taught it at one time.

I have an old, old book written by a Methodist. Dress was very important to them then.
And at one time, everyone wore robes. So what is your point??? That fashions change?

Subdued 01-31-2008 02:27 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 375191)
Is it written in the bible that women must wear dresses?

Were dresses invented by the twelve apostles, or were dresses a product of culture? If they were a product of culture, what if that culture changes? Is culture ever allowed to change?
Only for the men.

deacon blues 01-31-2008 02:27 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 375182)
Rev, what one is called depends on if they're purposefully trying to appear as the opposite sex. Men who are cross-dressers will also wear a wig and carry a purse. Women who are cross-dressers will wear a mustach, comb their hair like a man's or wear a wig, and wear men's shoes.

As to your question about what a woman is called that wears pants - She's call a woman!
I saw a picture of J-Lo in a pair of pants------------------------:crazyluv
Sure didn't look like no man to me!!!!!!!

Seriously, the pants issue to me has more to do with a woman being modest than looking like a man. Of course there are lesbians trying to portray themselves as a man. The problem with this line of argument is that we have women in Pentecostal churches that will wear a skin-tight skirt/dress and justify that she is holy because she isn't wearing pants. The issue is sensuality and exposing the body in an inappropriate manner IMO.

Fiyahstarter 01-31-2008 02:28 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375131)
If a man that wears a dress is called a cross dresser

What is a woman called that wears pants?
I have one for you.

If a little kid who makes up a story is called a liar,

What is a preacher that makes up scripture called?

Sherri 01-31-2008 02:29 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375166)
I don't think they are making dresses for men yet, but as sick as this world is I don't think it will be long before they do.
Actually we were on an elevator in Los Angeles a few months ago, and a guy got on with us who was very pierced and tattooed and he had on a black skirt with boots. It was actually a cute skirt, if you were a girl!

StillStanding 01-31-2008 02:30 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375186)
She's call a woman

That wears pants.
I'll tell you what.....next time you go out, get together with a complete stranger then point at a woman wearing pants, then ask them what your pointing at! I'm not a gambler, but I would bet they would say, "Woman" and look at you like you had lost your mind! :lol

Michael Phelps 01-31-2008 02:33 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375183)
What was the reason for the tradition? Because all churches taught it at one time.

I have an old, old book written by a Methodist. Dress was very important to them then.
Oh, so we don't need scripture, because all churches taught it.

Once again, tradition trumps scripture.

Rev 01-31-2008 02:34 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 375199)
I'll tell you what.....next time you go out, get together with a complete stranger then point at a woman wearing pants, then ask them what your pointing at! I'm not a gambler, but I would bet they would say, "Woman" and look at you like you had lost your mind! :lol
Do you go to Sodom for your spiritual input? This is a sin sick world!

Rev 01-31-2008 02:35 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 375203)
Oh, so we don't need scripture, because all churches taught it.

Once again, tradition trumps scripture.
Where did the churches get it?

Sherri 01-31-2008 02:36 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375206)
Do you go to Sodom for your spiritual input? This is a sin sick world!
What kind of question is this?

StillStanding 01-31-2008 02:39 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375206)
Do you go to Sodom for your spiritual input? This is a sin sick world!
A woman wearing a dress is spiritual? Where do you get scripture for that?

If you ask your question about a woman wearing pants to someone who has been raised with holiness standards for women, you might get the answer that you're looking for! :) The earth at large doesn't think twice about it!

Rev 01-31-2008 02:40 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 375216)
A woman wearing a dress is spiritual? Where do you get scripture for that?

If you ask your question about a woman wearing pants to someone who has been raised with holiness standards for women, you might get the answer that you're looking for! :) The earth at large doesn't think twice about it!
(Deu 22:5) The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Fiyahstarter 01-31-2008 02:44 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375220)
(Deu 22:5) The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
How does this equate to wearing of pants? Since everyone was wearing robes?

Rev 01-31-2008 02:47 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
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Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter (Post 375226)
How does this equate to wearing of pants? Since everyone was wearing robes?
Why don't you study the scripture out for yourself. if you are interested!

StillStanding 01-31-2008 02:47 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375220)
(Deu 22:5) The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Without going into what this scripure means, this scripture was written over 2,000 years before a women's dress was invented! Back then they wore robes. (both male and female!)

Baseball caps were originally invented for male baseball players. Is it now a sin for girls to wear caps?

Rev 01-31-2008 02:47 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 375203)
Oh, so we don't need scripture, because all churches taught it.

Once again, tradition trumps scripture.
(Deu 22:5) The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Rev 01-31-2008 02:49 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 375235)
Without going into what this scripure means, this scripture was written over 2,000 years before a women's dress was invented! Back then they wore robes. (both male and femake!)

Baseball caps were originally invented for male baseball players. Is it now a sin for girls to wear caps?
Silly post!

Sherri 01-31-2008 02:49 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375220)
(Deu 22:5) The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
:tantrum:tantrum:tantrum

Fiyahstarter 01-31-2008 02:49 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375234)
Why don't you study the scripture out for yourself. if you are interested!
Is that your answer?

MissBrattified 01-31-2008 02:50 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375240)
Silly post!
Not really, Rev. Back in the day...when BOTH sexes wore robes...how were they distinct? Was it fabric? The way it was draped? What were the differences in appearance? Do you know?

Rev 01-31-2008 02:50 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 375241)
:tantrum:tantrum:tantrum
Did you ever tell that Methodist lady about Acts 2:38?

Michael Phelps 01-31-2008 02:50 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375207)
Where did the churches get it?
Where did the churches get their ideas that a woman shouldn't wear red, or hoses with seams in them, or any of the other "traditions" that have been abandoned by every church group since?

Michael Phelps 01-31-2008 02:51 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375236)
(Deu 22:5) The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Do pants made for a woman pertain to a man? Would YOU wear a pair of them?

StillStanding 01-31-2008 02:52 PM
Re: Cross Dressers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 375240)
Silly post!
Really? You can't see to corrilation? Baseball caps and pants were originally invented for the men by culture, but now both pants and caps are worn equally by women! Culture has changed!


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