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sallyjo76 02-16-2008 12:21 AM

Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
I had a person call me today and she was concerned about a pal that was aways telling lies. If pal was confronted about the lies...then pal told more lies to cover lies.

Any one here have any suggestions on how to deal with this!!!

Rev 02-16-2008 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sallyjo76 (Post 391145)
I had a person call me today and she was concerned about a pal that was aways telling lies. If pal was confronted about the lies...then pal told more lies to cover lies.

Any one here have any suggestions on how to deal with this!!!

Cast that demon out! :toofunny

Cindy 02-16-2008 12:25 AM

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I think people that lie like that believe they are telling the truth. In that they come to believe their own lies. I really don't know of anything except prayer. Although I have heard of theraphy for this I don't really know how to go about it.

Carpenter 02-16-2008 12:25 AM

Re: Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
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Originally Posted by sallyjo76 (Post 391145)
I had a person call me today and she was concerned about a pal that was aways telling lies. If pal was confronted about the lies...then pal told more lies to cover lies.

Any one here have any suggestions on how to deal with this!!!

It would depend on how important this pal was to me and what kind of lies he was telling...

In other words, if the lies are damaging to other people he needs to be confronted and dealt with, if he is only damaging himself, call him a fool, tell him you are not lying, and wait a while to see what happens.

Pressing-On 02-16-2008 12:26 AM

Re: Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
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Originally Posted by Rev (Post 391151)
Cast that demon out! :toofunny

:toofunny:toofunny


Really, SallyJo. You can only pray. When someone starts to lie it just snowballs on them. Then they have to practice not lying. It's a trap and a vicious cycle.

Neck 02-16-2008 12:27 AM

Re: Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
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Originally Posted by sallyjo76 (Post 391145)
I had a person call me today and she was concerned about a pal that was aways telling lies. If pal was confronted about the lies...then pal told more lies to cover lies.

Any one here have any suggestions on how to deal with this!!!

How about a good laugh. Tell the person they are so funny with all the stories.

Do not walk away and let them think anything other than you know they are making things up.

It works...

sallyjo76 02-16-2008 12:27 AM

Re: Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
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Originally Posted by Rev (Post 391151)
Cast that demon out! :toofunny

That's what pal needs! :queen

sallyjo76 02-16-2008 12:30 AM

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This is some one who claims to be saved.

Rev 02-16-2008 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sallyjo76 (Post 391162)
This is some one who claims to be saved.

Well, cast the demon out of that saved person! :toofunny

Pressing-On 02-16-2008 12:32 AM

Re: Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
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Originally Posted by Rev (Post 391163)
Well, cast the demon out of that saved person! :toofunny

:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny

sallyjo76 02-16-2008 12:45 AM

Re: Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
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Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 391154)
It would depend on how important this pal was to me and what kind of lies he was telling...

In other words, if the lies are damaging to other people he needs to be confronted and dealt with, if he is only damaging himself, call him a fool, tell him you are not lying, and wait a while to see what happens.


In a party setting she has to out do any one else.

If Josie fell on a 2 inch ice puddle...then she would tell that she fell though a pond that had 14 inches of ice on top.

Pressing-On 02-16-2008 12:47 AM

Re: Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
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Originally Posted by sallyjo76 (Post 391179)
In a party setting she has to out do any one else.

If Josie fell on a 2 inch ice puddle...then she would tell that she fell though a pond that had 14 inches of ice on top.

My husband has an uncle like that! No one can stand him. If you've done it, he has too. If you tried it, he has too! Hilarious!

Rev 02-16-2008 12:48 AM

Re: Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
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Originally Posted by sallyjo76 (Post 391179)
In a party setting she has to out do any one else.

If Josie fell on a 2 inch ice puddle...then she would tell that she fell though a pond that had 14 inches of ice on top.

She has an inferiority complex.

Carpenter 02-16-2008 12:49 AM

Re: Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sallyjo76 (Post 391179)
In a party setting she has to out do any one else.

If Josie fell on a 2 inch ice puddle...then she would tell that she fell though a pond that had 14 inches of ice on top.

Well, maybe it is time to call her bluff and follow with a story that includes a midget, a three legged goat, and a kiddy pool full of k-y jelly...



:toofunny

Pressing-On 02-16-2008 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 391188)
Well, maybe it is time to call her bluff and follow with a story that includes a midget, a three legged goat, and a kiddy pool full of k-y jelly...



:toofunny

If you're banned in the morning - it was nice knowing you!

:toofunny:toofunny

MissBrattified 02-16-2008 12:51 AM

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In my opinion, if they're exaggerations (wild or mild), keep a sense of humor. Usually they will embarrass themselves at some point and learn their lesson.

Like someone else said (was it Carpenter the Ultra Con?), if the lies are damaging someone else's reputation in some way or are harmful in any way, then I would say something to let them know that you know what they're saying isn't true, and that you don't want to hear anymore of it.

MissBrattified 02-16-2008 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 391188)
Well, maybe it is time to call her bluff and follow with a story that includes a midget, a three legged goat, and a kiddy pool full of k-y jelly...



:toofunny


:shocked:



I...

don't know what not to think.





*takes back UltraCon label*

*permanently*

Pressing-On 02-16-2008 12:53 AM

Re: Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 391194)
:shocked:



I...

don't know what not to think.





*takes back UltraCon label*

*permanently*

Yep!

:reaction

Carpenter 02-16-2008 12:53 AM

Re: Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 391192)
In my opinion, if they're exaggerations (wild or mild), keep a sense of humor. Usually they will embarrass themselves at some point and learn their lesson.

Like someone else said (was it Carpenter the Ultra Con?), if the lies are damaging someone else's reputation in some way or are harmful in any way, then I would say something to let them know that you know what they're saying isn't true, and that you don't want to hear anymore of it.

It was me and don't go quoting any common sense I just might make on accident.

:D

MissBrattified 02-16-2008 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 391196)
It was me and don't go quoting any common sense I just might make on accident.

:D

...











:shocked:

Carpenter 02-16-2008 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 391194)
:shocked:



I...

don't know what not to think.





*takes back UltraCon label*

*permanently*

See? Don't blame me if you are watching too much TV and take things out of context...

MissBrattified 02-16-2008 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 391199)
See? Don't blame me if you are watching too much TV and take things out of context...

I don't see what 10 Years Younger has to do with this conversation. :tvhappy

Carpenter 02-16-2008 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 391201)
I don't see what 10 Years Younger has to do with this conversation. :tvhappy

It makes all the sense in the world...especially if I knew what in the Sam Hill you were talking about. :D

sallyjo76 02-16-2008 12:59 AM

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When she opens her mouth...you question in your mind every thing that comes out.

She was confronted today about something she told yesterday. It took one phone call to know the truth...but before the phone call ended she was telling more.

MissBrattified 02-16-2008 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 391205)
It makes all the sense in the world...especially if I knew what in the Sam Hill you were talking about. :D

The Learning Channel's "10 Years Younger"

They take frazzled, tired out, self-neglected women (and every now and then a man), fix their teeth, smooth out their skin, tweeze their eyebrows, doll them up in a new outfit, hair and makeup, and voila! They look "10 Years Younger"

So...that's what I'm semi-watching....

And you said something about watching tv.....

Oh dear.

I've really lost track of this conversation.

There's a guy who does makeup who looks like a girl--and wears his hair in a bun half the time. Ironic, I say.

MissBrattified 02-16-2008 01:03 AM

Re: Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
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Originally Posted by sallyjo76 (Post 391207)
When she opens her mouth...you question in your mind every thing that comes out.

She was confronted today about something she told yesterday. It took one phone call to know the truth...but before they phone call ended she was telling more.

Sounds like she needs lots of prayer. It's not like you can tape her mouth shut and make her stop lying. :coffee2

Carpenter 02-16-2008 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 391208)
The Learning Channel's "10 Years Younger"

They take frazzled, tired out, self-neglected women (and every now and then a man), fix their teeth, smooth out their skin, tweeze their eyebrows, doll them up in a new outfit, hair and makeup, and voila! They look "10 Years Younger"

So...that's what I'm semi-watching....

And you said something about watching tv.....

Oh dear.

I've really lost track of this conversation.

There's a guy who does makeup who looks like a girl--and wears his hair in a bun half the time. Ironic, I say.

"dooooon't say it...doooooon't say it...carpenter, just don't...don't respond maintain your thumble full of dignity..."

The producers of that show would be like a fat kid in the Wonka factory if someone invited them to THE church...


:toofunny:toofunny


blast...I knew I couldn't do it...

MissBrattified 02-16-2008 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 391215)
"dooooon't say it...doooooon't say it...carpenter, just don't...don't respond maintain your thumble full of dignity..."

The producers of that show would be like a fat kid in the Wonka factory if someone invited them to church...


:toofunny:toofunny

blast...I knew I couldn't do it...


I'll give you a :D


Most churches would be split down the middle--the Fashionistas and the Don't-Cares. The Fashionistas would pass with flying colors and the Don't-Cares would be carted off like lambs to the slaughter.

Honestly, though, I have pointed out to my daughters that dressing in a flattering manner, fixing your hair, tweezing your brows, having good teeth and healthy skin--that's most of the beauty process right there. There is no good reason to look ugly simply because you wear a dress and don't wear lipstick.

I'll just take my toe off the soapbox before it gets too firmly planted.

Dignity? What dignity? :dance

Carpenter 02-16-2008 01:17 AM

Re: Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 391226)
I'll give you a :D


Most churches would be split down the middle--the Fashionistas and the Don't-Cares. The Fashionistas would pass with flying colors and the Don't-Cares would be carted off like lambs to the slaughter.

Honestly, though, I have pointed out to my daughters that dressing in a flattering manner, fixing your hair, tweezing your brows, having good teeth and healthy skin--that's most of the beauty process right there. There is no good reason to look ugly simply because you wear a dress and don't wear lipstick.

I'll just take my toe off the soapbox before it gets too firmly planted.

Dignity? What dignity? :dance

This is why I respect and think so highly of you Ms. B. You can take a nonsensical comment like the one I made and turn it into something you could have calligraphied on a plate!

Good form and good night!

sallyjo76 02-16-2008 01:17 AM

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I use to watch a little boy that told some really big ones.
When his Dad dropped him off one morning the first thing out of his mouth was " Did you see that big guy looking in your bedroom window?" He ws standing there when we pulled up"!! He told me the color of the mans shirt and did a good job of it. Of course at first it shook me up, then I wondered why his Dad didn't come up to the door with him.

I gave it a little time and I talked to him again about it. He finally admitted he lied
When I talked to his Mom about it...she said he is just like his Dad.

MissBrattified 02-16-2008 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 391237)
This is why I respect and think so highly of you Ms. B. You can take a nonsensical comment like the one I made and turn it into something you could have calligraphied on a plate!

Good form and good night!

Bleh. That is only because I couldn't think of an equally funny, nonsensical comment. :dunno

Kay B 02-16-2008 01:46 AM

Re: Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
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Originally Posted by sallyjo76 (Post 391207)
When she opens her mouth...you question in your mind every thing that comes out.

She was confronted today about something she told yesterday. It took one phone call to know the truth...but before the phone call ended she was telling more.

My step father was one who told lies. No one believed anything he said. My half brother grew up with the same personality.They both passed away in this condition in their mid 30's.
I cannot tolerate a liar! NEVER!!

OP_Carl 02-16-2008 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 391211)
Sounds like she needs lots of prayer. It's not like you can tape her mouth shut and make her stop lying. :coffee2

Don't knock it until you've tried it. With duct tape.


:oops :oops :oops :oops :oops :oops :oops :oops :oops :oops :oops :oops :oops :oops :oops

:bubble

:sly

:whistle






:saycheese

Coonskinner 02-16-2008 07:43 AM

Re: Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
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Originally Posted by Rev (Post 391163)
Well, cast the demon out of that saved person! :toofunny


First, call in a specialist like Brother Blume who can tell you how much percent Holy Ghost vs. devil is in the individual. ;)

Pressing-On 02-16-2008 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner (Post 391301)
First, call in a specialist like Brother Blume who can tell you how much percent Holy Ghost vs. devil is in the individual. ;)

Was I supposed to laugh at this comment? Just checking. ;)

Coonskinner 02-16-2008 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 391303)
Was I supposed to laugh at this comment? Just checking. ;)

Do you recall the great debate on NFCF where our good Canadian Brother explained to us that people can have the Holy Ghost and be demon possessed at the same time?

You know, a person who has the HG, but is not completely filled, leaving room for the old devil to live in there too. :)

Pressing-On 02-16-2008 08:00 AM

Re: Need Advice on how to deal with Liars
 
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner (Post 391304)
Do you recall the great debate on NFCF where our good Canadian Brother explained to us that people can have the Holy Ghost and be demon possessed at the same time?

You know, a person who has the HG, but is not completely filled, leaving room for the old devil to live in there too.
:)

Actually, I recall him saying the opposite.

Quote:


You know, a person who has the HG, but is not completely filled, leaving room for the old devil to live in there too.

I've met some people that have given me this impression. lol

Coonskinner 02-16-2008 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 391305)
Actually, I recall him saying the opposite.


I've met some people that have given me this impression. lol


Unless I am mistaken, he believes a person can be baptized with the Holy Ghost and have a devil too.

The deal is, the person has to have let themsleves get in a condition where they are not completely filled, he says.

We went round and around over that.

I don't think I am missing this one.

Brother Bassett and I had a pretty good discussion with him.

In fact, he had implied that MB had a devil...ROFL!

Pressing-On 02-16-2008 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner (Post 391311)
Unless I am mistaken, he believes a person can be baptized with the Holy Ghost and have a devil too.

The deal is, the person has to have let themsleves get in a condition where they are not completely filled, he says.

We went round and around over that.

I don't think I am missing this one.

Brother Bassett and I had a pretty good discussion with him.

In fact, he had implied that MB had a devil...ROFL!

I didn't recall Brother Blume making that statement about someone being filled and possessed.

He is pretty adamant on Romans 6:6-7 concerning sin.

Coonskinner 02-16-2008 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 391313)
I didn't recall Brother Blume making that statement about someone being filled and possessed.

He is pretty adamant on Romans 6:6-7 concerning sin.


That was the point--he said you could have the Holy Ghost, but not be filled with the Holy Ghost, and thus have room for a devil.

That was the part we went round and round about.

He may have changed his position, but that was exactly what he said.


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