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Ron 02-19-2008 10:41 AM

Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Just reading on another thread about change reminds me of some things that don't change.

I am old fashioned about some things, the things I will not do are not "Sin" per se, but I still prefer the old way.

I won't wear anything but a suit & tie (white shirt) to an official Church service.

I like the idea of an Altar call where Ladies are on the left & men on the right.
I have been in service where it was mixed and when people started praying for others, men just in from the world felt "led" to place an arm or hand on a nearby ladies shoulder, or hands.

I will call Pastor, or leaders if I can not make a service.

These are not "sin" just some "old fashioned paths" I enjoy walking.

Are you "old fashioned?"

Are there some traditions you enjoy participating in?

Pragmatist 02-19-2008 10:45 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
I like the tradition of wearing your best for church; I don't care for the casual look.

DividedThigh 02-19-2008 10:47 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
most people i know like to wear there best for chruch that is a good thing, but our church has casual night on wed bible study, nice deal, even i have lightened up, dt

StillStanding 02-19-2008 10:57 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a little old fashioned. :)

I like singing old hymns of the faith.
I like listening to "oldies" on the radio.
I like hearing church bells ring on Sundays.
I like listening to a REAL piano instead of a synthesized keyboard in church.
I like old fashioned anointed singing and preaching.
I like sitting with my wife, children and their spouses, and grandchildren all together on a pew in church.

But....I've learned to roll with a lot of the new stuff!

DividedThigh 02-19-2008 10:59 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 393887)
There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a little old fashioned. :)

I like singing old hymns of the faith.
I like listening to "oldies" on the radio.
I like hearing church bells ring on Sundays.
I like listening to a REAL piano instead of a synthesized keyboard in church.
I like old fashioned anointed singing and preaching.
I like sitting with my wife, children and their spouses, and grandchildren all together on a pew in church.

But....I've learned to roll with a lot of the new stuff!

good with all of that pianoman, somethings like family and love never get old do they, lol,dt

StillStanding 02-19-2008 11:03 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 393888)
good with all of that pianoman, somethings like family and love never get old do they, lol,dt

Got to keep the main thing the main thing, bro! ;)

DividedThigh 02-19-2008 11:05 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 393891)
Got to keep the main thing the main thing, bro! ;)

amen to that, can you send some warmth this way, we have had almost 80 inches of snow this year, i grow weary, lol, dt

StillStanding 02-19-2008 11:06 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 393892)
amen to that, can you send some warmth this way, we have had almost 80 inches of snow this year, i grow weary, lol, dt

Can't help you today! It snowed here this morning! :D

DividedThigh 02-19-2008 11:07 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 393893)
Can't help you today! It snowed here this morning! :D

sorry bro, to bad this is usually your golf day, lol

Raven 02-19-2008 11:09 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 393887)
There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a little old fashioned. :)

I like singing old hymns of the faith.
I like listening to "oldies" on the radio.
I like hearing church bells ring on Sundays.
I like listening to a REAL piano instead of a synthesized keyboard in church.
I like old fashioned anointed singing and preaching.
I like sitting with my wife, children and their spouses, and grandchildren all together on a pew in church.

But....I've learned to roll with a lot of the new stuff!

You said it well Pianoman. I'm right there with you. I'm too comfortable in my old skin to change now.
Raven

StillStanding 02-19-2008 11:10 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 393894)
sorry bro, to bad this is usually your golf day, lol

TRUE!!!! :tissue

This is all I can do to get ready for the next pretty day. :barbell::situps:

Felicity 02-19-2008 11:10 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
A "little" old fashioned. Emphasis on little because I'm still too young to be old. :happydance

Ron 02-19-2008 11:13 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 393887)
There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a little old fashioned. :)

I like singing old hymns of the faith.
I like listening to "oldies" on the radio.
I like hearing church bells ring on Sundays.
I like listening to a REAL piano instead of a synthesized keyboard in church.
I like old fashioned anointed singing and preaching.
I like sitting with my wife, children and their spouses, and grandchildren all together on a pew in church.

But....I've learned to roll with a lot of the new stuff!


Amen!

DividedThigh 02-19-2008 11:14 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 393897)
TRUE!!!! :tissue

This is all I can do to get ready for the next pretty day. :barbell::situps:

well keep pumpin bro, lol,dt:tvhappy

Ron 02-19-2008 11:14 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 393898)
A "little" old fashioned. Emphasis on little because I'm still too young to be old. :happydance

I am sure!

Ron 02-19-2008 11:15 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 393888)
good with all of that pianoman, somethings like family and love never get old do they, lol,dt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 393891)
Got to keep the main thing the main thing, bro! ;)

This so true!

Digging4Truth 02-19-2008 11:15 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven (Post 393896)
You said it well Pianoman. I'm right there with you. I'm too comfortable in my old skin to change now.
Raven

There is no problem with that... especially when we realize that the younger generation did not come in the same skin and find ourselves understanding that.

The gospel is the message. As long as the message remains intact the methods can change to adapt to varying societal and generational adaptations.

Too often people attach methods irreversibly to the message and can find themselves judging the message as inadequate when, in reality, it is a different method that they are truly disagreeing with.

DividedThigh 02-19-2008 11:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 393904)
There is no problem with that... especially when we realize that the younger generation did not come in the same skin and find ourselves understanding that.

The gospel is the message. As long as the message remains intact the methods can change to adapt to varying societal and generational adaptations.

Too often people attach methods irreversibly to the message and can find themselves judging the message as inadequate when, in reality, it is a different method that they are truly disagreeing with.

good post bro, there is wisdom in there, lol, dt:tvhappy

StillStanding 02-19-2008 11:58 AM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 393904)
There is no problem with that... especially when we realize that the younger generation did not come in the same skin and find ourselves understanding that.

The gospel is the message. As long as the message remains intact the methods can change to adapt to varying societal and generational adaptations.

Too often people attach methods irreversibly to the message and can find themselves judging the message as inadequate when, in reality, it is a different method that they are truly disagreeing with.

This is so true. The method that reaches me will not necessarily reach my children and grandchildren.

I'll never forget taking my children and a few of their friends to a Kirk Franklin concert in the late 90's. My opinion at the time was that his music was more entertainment instead of true worship. It was more about the beat than about the words, etc.

The concert didn't really do anything for me, but before it was over, my children and theirs friends had tears rolling down their faces and walked up to the front to pray.

I had an epiphany! The songs that reached me, will not reach this new generation!

DividedThigh 02-19-2008 12:11 PM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 393945)
This is so true. The method that reaches me will not necessarily reach my children and grandchildren.

I'll never forget taking my children and a few of their friends to a Kirk Franklin concert in the late 90's. My opinion at the time was that his music was more entertainment instead of true worship. It was more about the beat than about the words, etc.

The concert didn't really do anything for me, but before it was over, my children and theirs friends had tears rolling down their faces and walked up to the front to pray.

I had an epiphany! The songs that reached me, will not reach this new generation!

be careful pm truth is not accepted by some, but what you say is for truth, dt:toofunny

LaGirl 02-19-2008 12:13 PM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pragmatist (Post 393880)
I like the tradition of wearing your best for church; I don't care for the casual look.

i agree 100000000%

RandyWayne 02-19-2008 12:31 PM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
While I don't consider myself old fashioned, I'm not completely "out there" either. One yardstick I use is "does this show respect?". I do like looking nice for church, but have NEVER liked the classic used-car salesman type suit that I remember most men wearing. I've always liked more of a tux look then classic suit look.

chseeads 02-19-2008 12:42 PM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 393874)
I like the idea of an Altar call where Ladies are on the left & men on the right.
I have been in service where it was mixed and when people started praying for others, men just in from the world felt "led" to place an arm or hand on a nearby ladies shoulder, or hands.

Old-fashioned to me on that, is non-segregated gathering in to pray. Just because everybody gathers around without division of male/female it doesn't mean everybody would rub all over each other. :)

Digging4Truth 02-19-2008 12:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chseeads (Post 393999)
Old-fashioned to me on that, is non-segregated gathering in to pray. Just because everybody gathers around without division of male/female it doesn't mean everybody would rub all over each other. :)

Yes sir...

"Old Fashioned" can be defined as "Well dats da way we always dun it"

DividedThigh 02-19-2008 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 394001)
Yes sir...

"Old Fashioned" can be defined as "Well dats da way we always dun it"

that reminds me of a coupel church splits i knew about because somebody moved the piano, lol

Digging4Truth 02-19-2008 12:57 PM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 394023)
that reminds me of a coupel church splits i knew about because somebody moved the piano, lol

I heard it said once that the new pastor should only move the piano an inch per year.

There could be some truth in that. :)

Ron 02-19-2008 01:08 PM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chseeads (Post 393999)
Old-fashioned to me on that, is non-segregated gathering in to pray. Just because everybody gathers around without division of male/female it doesn't mean everybody would rub all over each other. :)

True! I only stated it as "one reason" not the only one.:happydance

Mrs. LPW 02-19-2008 01:11 PM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
I still love the old songs although I don't care to sing them every Sunday... I miss hearing them.

I usually am dressy or dressy/casual (meaning no denim) on Sunday's.

I don't call elders by their first names... unless they are relatives.

I hate a dead dry song service.

I don't like the music to overpower the voices... or the music to be so quiet you can't hear it either.

I don't like to see people over the age of four, drinking or eating during church. (Unless they are about to keel over into a diabetic coma if they don't get sugar)

I think if you're late for church you should sit at the back and not prance all the way up to the front.

I miss the tambourine and wish one of the young people who can play well, would make it cool again.

I like the full sound of an organ.

I miss campmeeting on the campground with the smell of french fries cooking during the tail end of service.

I prefer services with a nice mix of old, newer, and brand new songs.

I like "song services" to last longer than 3 songs, 2 of which only those under 30 know. I like it when we sing for a while and there are songs that we can all sing together in unity.
I feel like we've forgotten how beautiful and ministering singing unto the Lord in one accord can be.. and thus shortened up that part of the service. I miss the old fashioned half hour song services sometimes... (I think once in a while they wouldn't hurt)
I think Sunday nights, we should take our time and if people have to leave, they can... but there should be at least one service a week where we aren't rushed to keep a schedule.

I think I can safely say I am a nice mix between old fashioned and modern in terms of the old Pentecostal ways...

I think we need to change our methods but I don't think we have to completely throw everything old out, to be "relavent" I think the two can peacefully co-exist if both parties are willing. Our elders gave us what we have today, and I like it when we can move forward while still respecting them.

Ron 02-19-2008 01:14 PM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 394066)
I still love the old songs although I don't care to sing them every Sunday... I miss hearing them.

I usually am dressy or dressy/casual (meaning no denim) on Sunday's.

I don't call elders by their first names... unless they are relatives.

I hate a dead dry song service.

I don't like the music to overpower the voices... or the music to be so quiet you can't hear it either.

I don't like to see people over the age of four, drinking or eating during church. (Unless they are about to keel over into a diabetic coma if they don't get sugar)

I think if you're late for church you should sit at the back and not prance all the way up to the front.

I miss the tambourine and wish one of the young people who can play well, would make it cool again.

I like the full sound of an organ.

I miss campmeeting on the campground with the smell of french fries cooking during the tail end of service.

I prefer services with a nice mix of old, newer, and brand new songs.

I like "song services" to last longer than 3 songs, 2 of which only those under 30 know. I like it when we sing for a while and there are songs that we can all sing together in unity.
I feel like we've forgotten how beautiful and ministering singing unto the Lord in one accord can be.. and thus shortened up that part of the service. I miss the old fashioned half hour song services sometimes... (I think once in a while they wouldn't hurt)
I think Sunday nights, we should take our time and if people have to leave, they can... but there should be at least one service a week where we aren't rushed to keep a schedule.

I think I can safely say I am a nice mix between old fashioned and modern in terms of the old Pentecostal ways...

I think we need to change our methods but I don't think we have to completely throw everything old out, to be "relavent" I think the two can peacefully co-exist if both parties are willing. Our elders gave us what we have today, and I like it when we can move forward while still respecting them.

Good Post!

DividedThigh 02-19-2008 01:14 PM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 394029)
I heard it said once that the new pastor should only move the piano an inch per year.

There could be some truth in that. :)

i can see that , it might work, maybe next time, lol,dt

Pragmatist 02-19-2008 01:46 PM

Re: Are You Somewhat "Old Fashioned?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 394066)
I still love the old songs although I don't care to sing them every Sunday... I miss hearing them.

I usually am dressy or dressy/casual (meaning no denim) on Sunday's.

I don't call elders by their first names... unless they are relatives.

I hate a dead dry song service.

I don't like the music to overpower the voices... or the music to be so quiet you can't hear it either.

I don't like to see people over the age of four, drinking or eating during church. (Unless they are about to keel over into a diabetic coma if they don't get sugar)

I think if you're late for church you should sit at the back and not prance all the way up to the front.

I miss the tambourine and wish one of the young people who can play well, would make it cool again.

I like the full sound of an organ.

I miss campmeeting on the campground with the smell of french fries cooking during the tail end of service.

I prefer services with a nice mix of old, newer, and brand new songs.

I like "song services" to last longer than 3 songs, 2 of which only those under 30 know. I like it when we sing for a while and there are songs that we can all sing together in unity.
I feel like we've forgotten how beautiful and ministering singing unto the Lord in one accord can be.. and thus shortened up that part of the service. I miss the old fashioned half hour song services sometimes... (I think once in a while they wouldn't hurt)
I think Sunday nights, we should take our time and if people have to leave, they can... but there should be at least one service a week where we aren't rushed to keep a schedule.

I think I can safely say I am a nice mix between old fashioned and modern in terms of the old Pentecostal ways...

I think we need to change our methods but I don't think we have to completely throw everything old out, to be "relavent" I think the two can peacefully co-exist if both parties are willing. Our elders gave us what we have today, and I like it when we can move forward while still respecting them.

I agree with the above...with the exception of missing the tambourine. :)


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