I love the UPC
 

I just thought that I would start this thread in light of other discussions that I have recently been in.

I'm very thankful that one morning when I was in dire need of spiritual regeneration that when I went to a United Pentecostal church in my neighborhood somebody preached to me the truth.

I'm thankful for my first opportunities to preach, which were in a United Pentecostal church.

I'm thankful for many friends who were United Pentecostal who have showed me much kindness.

I'm thankful for all the experiences, the wonderful camp meetings, revival services and great fellowship that made up the early part of my life in church. I'm very thankful that there is was and will be a UPCI

God bless all who labor for the gospel sake

:)

Good post! I agree completely!

I have much to be thankful for what has transpired in my life from within local assemblies that have member-ministers who fellowship as part of the UPC.

Can one love God and not love the UPC concurrently? Is there a difference?

:neener

It seems your screen name is in agreeance(i can't spell) with your quote:heeheehee

Thumper, it is encouraging to see someone post something positive about the UPC.:thumbsup Although I am not UPC, I don't have anything against it and do see it as a great work.:)

dude, that is such a perfect dead-pan delivery that you sir, are no novice.
your screename, the brevity, the thoughtful exit question,
are you are recent incarnation of someone very, very familiar with banned-land?:winkgrin

ps: seems a little early in the post count to hijack but certainly there is precedence for a post #4 departure.:amen

There is an underlying motive maybe, but an honest question that deserves an honest answer from any who would care to be honest.

No incarnation. Just li'l ole me. :thumbsup

Never been banned from any forum yet. I'll try to behave and observe all the rules.

Hey Thumper

AMEN and me toooooo.

But this should really mess up the thinking of all those folks that think you HATE the UPC.

Well that certainly takes all the fun out of it.


Hee heeeeeeeeeeeeee

He doesn't hate theUPC. Just has no use for it.

:nod

I heard about a Southerner that "didn't hate yankees".

His favorite thing to do was to read the OBITUARY page of the New York Times.

:D

Outrageous!

Outrageously funny! :ursofunny

Everyone of us have a personal responsibility to consider the things we think about (IMO, especially the ones you go to bed thinking about and wake up thinking about!)

Hey shakin...
are you a protagonist in Mr. antagonist's personal life?

Let's put it this way. Or could put it another way but we'll try this first.
I'd like to be a protagonista in any antagonist's life
and a antagonista in any protagagonits life.

:icecream :thumbsup :ursofunny

Who cannot love a sense of humor. :slaphappy

I love all God's people...cards mean nothing...

Never been in the UPC and never was tempted to join however I know many godly men and women in the UPC. I have preached for UPC men and they have preached for me. Fellowship is not based on a card.:thumbsup

That's the way I see it too.

btw, the upci did not come down from heaven like the New Jerusalem City. It came from Jefferson City.

Some men who say they love the UPC say it just like the man who says he loves the wife that he beats the whole time he is "expressing" said love.

Some men who say they love the Brethren, whether in the ogr. or not, say it just like the man who says he loves the wife that he beats the whole time he is "expressing" said love.


Fits BOTH ways.

:D

Seriously gentlemen .... it is apparent that this retirement benefits package argument is being set up ... along with other carefully crafted one's to justify a long awaited split ....

If this is what the UC's are hanging on to .... along with the holiness argument then I say the fellowship is better off without those MISGUIDED PERSONS .....

Why don't we get to the crux of the matter and stop dilly dallying ????

This about money, power, ideology and influence .... not about injustice or some spiritual higher ground.

Perhaps. But my dear OP, you have never heard me speak as disparagingly of any of "The Brethren" regardless of their affiliation or lack thereof.

Seems to me those outside the UPC are much more judgmental of the UPC than those inside are critical of those who are outside. JMHO.

whoa...can anybody say "noir"?

Clowns?

Easy there fellow.

Wouldn't want anyone to include your father in this category would you?




Jude 8

8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
KJV

just wondering,
can four things be a crux?

The AMF has been attacked on this forum and others used as a brunt of jokes I have either defended what I felt was incorrect or been silent with enbarassment because the charge was so. It is not a sacred cow. It is my fellowship not my life. But I promise I would withstand every official in a group or privately over an injustice done to a missionary or another preacher.
I do not belong to a lynching committee for preachers however I do think organizational decisions and actions are not too sacred to discuus. EVERY group has some kinks in the armour but just because everyone says the emporer has clothes on does not mean he does.:thumbsup The kid was right not politically correct but correct in fact.:nod

OP my Dad was a moderate .... not a conservative .... unless you think having cable television and lax standards is conservative ....

Be careful how much you tip your hat here on what you believe. Some of us are beginning to like you. :thumbsup

Be careful how you bash those you don't agree with too- Some of us are those clowns you refer to. :winkgrin

so if Daniel alluded to a portion of member-ministers who fellowship the AMF as...CLOWNS, would he get same, low-keyed cautionary tone from you that he received from OLD PATHS ?

This is analysis you won't get from anyone else ... free.

Issues that are and will be propagandized by both sides:

Holiness vs. Evangelism
Small Gov't vs. Bigger Gov't
Justice vs. Injustice
Spirituality vs. Carnality

but really it boils down to money, power, ideology and influence ...

I am not calling even Dan personal names!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I do not call my liberal friends clowns unless it would be in fun not seriously.

"This forum" began on Feb 13th.

As far as I know we do not have one single post reported for bashing the AMF.

Nor should we have any.

No side should be bashed. Beliefs can be questioned, discussed, hashed and ignored, but the man and the org are supposed to be offlimits. We had a silent side for a long time. Now we have our balance back it seems.

Sometimes in the heat of trying to prove a point this point has been lost.

Over all I think "this forum" is postitive.

:nod

It's becoming obvious that the AMF is courting the ultra-radicals in the UPCI ... nuff said.

Perhaps a merger ahead ????

Evidently nothing is too sacred to discuss. The bantering and humor about the UPC and AMF have always been a prt of this Forum and its predecessor.

I am just amazed that many are so quick to villify and condemn the FMD and its director without any absolute PROOF of what has happened. It is apparent there has been alot of heresay evidence flaunted about. I know that one side has been vocalized quite loudly. As of yet the other side has not been made known publically.

Would it interest anyone to handle this with wisdom and propriety as the scripture suggests? Or would you prefer to continue to publicly castigate the organization and individuals who have offered no defense nor presented their side of the story?

Sorry for the clown comment ... it was in a fit of passion

The Admin closed the other thread.... let it lie please?

I do not see we have a need to continue this on EVERY thread.

hey, here's a thought...
now that a cool head is governing the fingers....
go back and edit it out!