Losing This Generation-Politics
 

More and more or should I say less and less people vote, especially young people. They are tired of the politics and the politicians. While the politicians make a lot of promises and talk a lot about integrity the rest of society don't believe them and see a lack of integrity. They are tired of the fighting, the lack of good candidates the division and partisan bickering.....

I wonder if that is why the church can't seem to reach the masses of unchurched young people...compared to how many are unchurched and yet believe in God our record stinks. They say the church is full of control freaks, hypocrites and manipulators. They see the politics and fighting for power. They are sick of the finger pointing and blame game going around. Nobody stands up and just accepts responsiblity rather than just passing the buck on to someone else...

Sounds like Pentecost....

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It doesn't sound like Pentecost Prax.. it sounds like mankind.

These things ought not to be...

Are you complaining Prax ;) Aren't you supposed to stop complaining and become part of the solution? ;)

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Quite the cynical post there, Brother Praxeas.

Not to mention it's a load of hogwash.

Have you been following Obama's campaign?

Young people are gaga over the guy.

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Young people are in the church too....not enough of them. Still voters are down as usual and have been for a long time. If you talk to the people that just don't vote anymore or don't know if they will this time they will tell just how sick of politics they are. They are tired of the fighting, the disunity, the mud slinging, the lack of quality candidates...they are tired of partisan politics. It's not hogwash at all.

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It does sound like mankind and mankind makes up Pentecost.

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Prax,

Although not YOUNG... put me on the list of "Tired of Church Politics" as you describe!!

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This is a bunch of bunk Praxeas. The youth are lining up to vote in record numbers. Time Magazine did an article on this titled, Year of the Youth Vote:

http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...708570,00.html

There are also countless articles on the internet on this growing demographic. You'll find plenty of articles on this all over the internet.

http://media.www.thebatt.com/media/s...-3190772.shtml

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,1459190.story

The youth vote is expected to be very important in this upcoming election. Overall they are expecting record number of voters, higher than 2004, which also reported what was then some of the highest numbers of voters.

Who told you the youth weren't voting and that voter numbers were down?

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No one told him so.

He was just kinda grumpy and needed something to vent about.

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Obama is going to change all that apathy this year as millions of young people respond to his clarion call for "hope" and "change".*





*This assumes he will be able to continue with the smoke and mirrors for the next nine months and never has to actually articulate just exactly what "hope" or "change" he is going to bring and how much it is going to cost.

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Some clever folks who follow this more closely have kept a tally and Mrs Bill Clinton has pledged new spending programs that are estimated to total $2 trillion and Mr. Barack Hussein Obama has mentioned things that tally to $3 trillion.

And they're just warming up!:ursofunny

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They say the church is full of control freaks, hypocrites and manipulators. They see the politics and fighting for power. They are sick of the finger pointing and blame game going around. Nobody stands up and just accepts responsiblity rather than just passing the buck on to someone else...

Sounds like Pentecost....

Prax,

The exposure of political corruption is evident to more people than ever before. Yes the political arena today is sickening.


However, when you speak of the church I don't think you're referring to "THE" Church. God's church is just fine. We have some local assemblies that have big problems, have some that are where they need to be. I see your point, but the Pentecostal movement has it's good and it's bad.


Find the good stick with it & influence as many as you can.

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They used to be down, but just from talking to youth and not just youth but people in general I find a lot are just sick of politics and are becoming apathetic...

BTW I think half of what you post is bunk and worse, but I prefer not to go there in the interest of civil discussions :reaction

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But you agree there has been apathy? It maybe up this year but that is beside the point.

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For that meetin in the sky?

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The apathy I am talking about is in general with college aged young people. Frankly I don't mind since the vast majority of them are at that stage of their life where their political views have been formed by extremely liberal Democrat or Socialist College Professors. I would rather wait for them to get out into the real world, mature, pay taxes awhile, THEN decide to vote.

When you think about it it is truly a miracle that any Republican is elected to office with the mainstream media and higher educational institutions all arrayed against them.

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Im referring to Churchdom in general.

I never spoke in sweeping generalizations. In other words I did not say it was ALL of pentecost, but sadly when people see it happening one place or experience first hand they can be turned off of the whole.

It's not just Pentecost either though. It's all of Churchdom from the ministry down to the "laity"...and I think forums like this and all the bickering and disunity are just a microcosm of a larger problem. But shouldn't the church be different than what is happening in the world?

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This is why America was founded as a constitutional republic, not a democracy. And this is why the original voting requirement included being a landowner.

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Yup. Now we have Democrats trying to make it illegal to even verify a voter is who they say they are with a photo ID.

They also have extended early voting from a courtesy extended to people who would be out of the county, state, or country at the time of an election to a period of time they can bus every welfare canidate they can find to the polls over several weeks to try and bolster the Democrat / Socialist vote.

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The year I turned 18 is the year they changed the voting age. Yep it was Richard Nixon and some other guy. I voted for Nixon and didn't vote again until I was about 40.