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Jehoram 02-27-2008 02:36 PM

Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Economists are saying it's a good idea. Fears of runaway inflation are rising.

Not trying to be a doomsday guy, but my family is preparing an emergency plan.

Just in case.

dizzyde 02-27-2008 02:38 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alter Ego (Post 403118)
Economists are saying it's a good idea. Fears of runaway inflation are rising.

Not trying to be a doomsday guy, but my family is preparing an emergency plan.

Just in case.

I'm not doing it, (I can barely afford what it takes just to survive) but I don't think it is a bad idea!

scotty 02-27-2008 02:39 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
What is the emergency going to be?

High prices?

How do you plan for that?

Kutless 02-27-2008 02:39 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alter Ego (Post 403118)
Economists are saying it's a good idea. Fears of runaway inflation are rising.

Not trying to be a doomsday guy, but my family is preparing an emergency plan.

Just in case.

Would you share some of that plan?

Elizabeth 02-27-2008 02:45 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Costco sells emergency supplies to feed of family of 4 for a few weeks, like military rations--I just heard the stuff was nasty!

But I guess it would be better than nothing-

Ferd 02-27-2008 02:49 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
I dont know how one stocks food for long term emergencies.

they simply dont last forever.

it is always a good policy to eliminate debt.

Kutless 02-27-2008 02:50 PM

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I have seen food with a "use by date" as far out as 2 yrs. I ate some chk in a can today that expired in 09. Guess those would be good. Any other non-perishables out there that hold there date for a long time?

Ramen Noodles?

Pressing-On 02-27-2008 02:51 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Flashback - Y2K.

What to do?

Nothing.

Jehoram 02-27-2008 02:51 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Homeland security has a series of ads running currently asking us if we (families) have prepared for a national crisis. Have we prepared a backstock of food, formulated a meeting place if something catastrophic occurred and the like.

Pressing-On 02-27-2008 02:52 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alter Ego (Post 403135)
Homeland security has a series of ads running currently asking us if we (families) have prpared for a national crisis. Have we prepared a backstock of food, formulated a meeting place if something catastrophic occurred and the like.

Are they selling duct tape again? I think they wanted us to buy duct tape right after 9-11.

Ron 02-27-2008 02:52 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Up in Canada, especially in Vancouver, they are planning for the "Big One" a high 7-8 Earthquake that wipes out the City.
Learning from Katrina & other disasters, even if the US sends help, they say expect to be on your own for 72 hours at least!

Sherri 02-27-2008 02:53 PM

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Eliminating debt? YES!!! All we owe is mortgage debt.

Stockpiling food? Only because I keep buying things that I forget are already sitting in my pantry!

Jehoram 02-27-2008 02:53 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 403134)
Flashback - Y2K.

What to do?

Nothing.

That's just silly.

I think it is a good idea to always be prepared.

What would it hurt to have a pantry with nonperishables in your home?

I am not espousing doomsday.

I am just saying OUR OWN GOVERNMENT is concerned about inflation and terrorist attacks that could cripple us.

Kutless 02-27-2008 02:53 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 403137)
Are they selling duct tape again? I think they wanted us to buy duct tape right after 9-11.

Again?? One should never be out of duct tape. Its like.....equal to chrome

Pressing-On 02-27-2008 02:54 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alter Ego (Post 403140)
That's just silly.

I think it is a good idea to always be prepared.

What would it hurt to have a pantry with nonperishables in your home?

I am not espousing doomsday.

I am just saying OUR OWN GOVERNMENT is concerned about inflation and terrorist attacks that could cripple us.

I'd rather be dead than live in fear. Just me.

"Their hearts shall fail them for fear......"

Ron 02-27-2008 02:54 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 403143)
I'd rather be dead than live in fear. Just me.

"Their hearts shall fail them for fear......"

Amen!

Pressing-On 02-27-2008 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kutless (Post 403142)
Again?? One should never be out of duct tape. Its like.....equal to chrome

:ursofunny:ursofunny

You might be a Redneck......

scotty 02-27-2008 02:54 PM

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Here is my emergency action plan

Mathew 6

25 “Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? 26 Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27 Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?
28 “So why do you worry about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin; 29 and yet I say to you that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
31 “Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

Jehoram 02-27-2008 02:55 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
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Originally Posted by scotty (Post 403123)
What is the emergency going to be?

High prices?

How do you plan for that?

Good question.

What if you stocked up on canned goods and nonperishables now?

At the worst you would save a lot of money in the future.

You would stave off high prices for a while longer.

Pressing-On 02-27-2008 02:55 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 403139)
Eliminating debt? YES!!! All we owe is mortgage debt.

Stockpiling food? Only because I keep buying things that I forget are already sitting in my pantry!

My husband gets so mad at me for that?

"How many bottles of ketchup do you need?"

:ursofunny

I never use it. I just thought they needed it and didn't want to be out.

:ursofunny

Ron 02-27-2008 02:56 PM

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On the realty side, I heard there are a bunch of banks in trouble in the US.
If they fail while it won't be the end of the world, it does mean that a lot of savings & investments will be lost & wiped out.

Preserving banks will be more important than preserving investments.

Pressing-On 02-27-2008 02:57 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 403138)
Up in Canada, especially in Vancouver, they are planning for the "Big One" a high 7-8 Earthquake that wipes out the City.
Learning from Katrina & other disasters, even if the US sends help, they say expect to be on your own for 72 hours at least!

California has been trying to fall off the Continent since I was in 1st grade.

:ursofunny

Jehoram 02-27-2008 02:57 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Those of you mocking are like the prototypical Pentecostals who say "why do I care about the environment? The Lord's coming anyway."

And then he hasn't come yet (even though he will) and we breathe filthy air, drink filthy water and live in a filthy environment.

My point?

God expects us to use common sense.

Ron 02-27-2008 02:58 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 403148)
My husband gets so mad at me for that?

"How many bottles of ketchup do you need?"

:ursofunny

I never use it. I just thought they needed it and didn't want to be out.

:ursofunny

PO, if it is something we use but may not really need, and it is on sale, if I have the money-I but it.

We will eventually use it, and we don't want to run out of what we use.

Pressing-On 02-27-2008 02:58 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 403149)
On the realty side, I heard there are a bunch of banks in trouble in the US.
If they fail while it won't be the end of the world, it does mean that a lot of savings & investments will be lost & wiped out.

Preserving banks will be more important than preserving investments.

A women at our savings and loan told me a couple of years ago that they are going to eventually combine everything into one central bank system. She was just telling me that as a matter of fact story.

Ron 02-27-2008 02:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 403151)
California has been trying to fall off the Continent since I was in 1st grade.

:ursofunny


Yeah, but PO, as lot has happened in the 4 years since then!:ursofunny

Jehoram 02-27-2008 02:59 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 403146)
Here is my emergency action plan

Mathew 6

25 “Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? 26 Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27 Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?
28 “So why do you worry about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin; 29 and yet I say to you that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
31 “Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

This scripture does not encourage foolishness, and a lack of planning.

This would be akin to saying "why work? God will take care of me."

Pressing-On 02-27-2008 02:59 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 403153)
PO, if it is something we use but may not really need, and it is on sale, if I have the money-I but it.

We will eventually use it, and we don't want to run out of what we use.

I give all of the extras to the Boy Scouts. The cutest little kid came up to our door and asked for some canned goods. I loaded him up and shut the door.

I heard him say, "Man, I hit the jackpot!"

:ursofunny

OneAccord 02-27-2008 03:00 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kutless (Post 403142)
Again?? One should never be out of duct tape. Its like.....equal to chrome

As a heating and air techncian, I have loads of duct tape. I'll be the man to know! No electricity for heat and AC? No problem, I'll just sell duct tape. And get rich.

Then eliminate debt incurred by buyin duck tape in mass quanities.Then be broke again.


See, I have a plan.

Kutless 02-27-2008 03:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 403145)
:ursofunny:ursofunny

You might be a Redneck......

:lol:lol

Ron 02-27-2008 03:01 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 403154)
A women at our savings and loan told me a couple of years ago that they are going to eventually combine everything into one central bank system. She was just telling me that as a matter of fact story.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98

This link talks about the Amero.

Ron 02-27-2008 03:02 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 403157)
I give all of the extras to the Boy Scouts. The cutest little kid came up to our door and asked for some canned goods. I loaded him up and shut the door.

I heard him say, "Man, I hit the jackpot!"

:ursofunny

Did he bring a wagon?:runhills

Ferd 02-27-2008 03:03 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
we are going to have the Dave Ramsey siminar at our church in a couple of months.

Pressing-On 02-27-2008 03:03 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alter Ego (Post 403156)
This scripture does not encourage foolishness, and a lack of planning.

This would be akin to saying "why work? God will take care of me."

To be fair, AE - if God ever tells me to do that I will start a thread about it and apologize to you.

I just have "88 Reasons God Will Come in 1988", Y2K and all the other scary things that circulate in the news.

I even saw the bones of Adam and Eve on the front page of the National Enquirer while checking out. Imagine that publication validating the Bible? Hilarious. I told the person behind me, "Well, at least we know the Bible is for real now, huh?" :ursofunny

I read reports that are contrary to the economic woes being heralded over the news "during an election year".

Just me.

Jehoram 02-27-2008 03:05 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
What would happen if a terrorist attack damaged our infrastructure and it took a long time to repair it, Pressing On?

Remember how the banks closed and the stock market closed right after 911?

That was just two planes hitting a couple of buildings in New York. (not minimizing the sorrow here)

What would happen if a city was lost? How long til we recovered AS A NATION?

Pressing-On 02-27-2008 03:05 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 403163)
we are going to have the Dave Ramsey siminar at our church in a couple of months.

He is awesome. My sister and her husband went through that at their Baptist Church in Austin.

Only problem - her husband's family buys them everything - their house, gives them a gas card, etc.. Her husband will never learn, I'm afraid.

My sister is greatly annoyed by this. I said, "Listen, if that's how they operate in their family, then let God bless you with it."

Pressing-On 02-27-2008 03:06 PM

Re: Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alter Ego (Post 403166)
What would happen if a terrorist attack damaged our infrastructure and it took a long time to repair it, Pressing On?

Remember how the banks closed and the stock market closed right after 911?

That was just two planes hitting a couple of buildings in New York. (not minimizing the sorrow here)

What would happen if a city was lost? How long til we recovered AS A NATION?

I used to lay, wrapped up, in my bathroom rug after a Saturday night of dancing and drinking. Couldn't remember where I had been. Do you actually think I'm afraid of anything now? Not hardly. :ursofunny

Ron 02-27-2008 03:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 403167)
He is awesome. My sister and her husband went through that at their Baptist Church in Austin.

Only problem - her husband's family buys them everything - their house, gives them a gas card, etc.. Her husband will never learn, I'm afraid.

My sister is greatly annoyed by this. I said, "Listen, if that's how they operate in their family, then let God bless you with it."


Er, PO, um, ah, er, is your sister's husbands family looking for any Canadians to adopt??:hmmm

Pressing-On 02-27-2008 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 403162)
Did he bring a wagon?:runhills

I was waiting for him to come back with one! :ursofunny

Pressing-On 02-27-2008 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 403172)
Er, PO, um, ah, er, is your sister's husbands family looking for any Canadians to adopt??:hmmm

Her husband is adopted, actually. I'll call and see!


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