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Praxeas 03-01-2008 04:56 PM

Video Editing
 
What do you guys that do video use? I have been using Adobe Premier Elements....and honestly I'm not too happy with it. I was gonna get Ulead's program.

Elements really is the stripped down version. As far as the video goes it's not great but not that bad for youtube, but there is no way to edit the audio track with effects or to clean up like pops and cracks. I made a video recording of my friend playing guitar and my digital camera picked up a lot of electronic pops....it was not from the guitar but I am thinking maybe the amp...since it is in mpeg Im not sure how to edit the audio separately and then put it back into the track...or if that is even possible.

any suggestions?

Ronzo 03-01-2008 05:35 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
I use Sony Vegas Movie Studio (Platinum Edition).


So far, I have no major gripes.

Praxeas 03-01-2008 07:11 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronzo (Post 405258)
I use Sony Vegas Movie Studio (Platinum Edition).


So far, I have no major gripes.

Does it have audio editing ability? How good?

Thanks

ManOfWord 03-01-2008 07:28 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Prax, I use Sony Vegas Pro 8 and it works very well. You can get an Academic version for around $300.

Since getting my Mac, though, I just bought Avid Express Pro on eBay and will use it. It has good reviews. Retail, it is $1600!!! I got it for $175 and can upgrade to the latest version for $50. Avid is what the TV studios use.

Ronzo 03-01-2008 07:44 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
MOW...

If you're interested in selling your version of Vegas Pro, I'm interested.

Ronzo 03-01-2008 07:45 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 405295)
Does it have audio editing ability? How good?

Thanks

It doesn't do audio clean up

tv1a 03-01-2008 08:20 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Ulead works really well. It allows separate audio edits as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 405246)
What do you guys that do video use? I have been using Adobe Premier Elements....and honestly I'm not too happy with it. I was gonna get Ulead's program.

Elements really is the stripped down version. As far as the video goes it's not great but not that bad for youtube, but there is no way to edit the audio track with effects or to clean up like pops and cracks. I made a video recording of my friend playing guitar and my digital camera picked up a lot of electronic pops....it was not from the guitar but I am thinking maybe the amp...since it is in mpeg Im not sure how to edit the audio separately and then put it back into the track...or if that is even possible.

any suggestions?


Praxeas 03-01-2008 09:05 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
thanks guys

CC1 03-01-2008 09:20 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 405246)
What do you guys that do video use? I have been using Adobe Premier Elements....and honestly I'm not too happy with it. I was gonna get Ulead's program.

Elements really is the stripped down version. As far as the video goes it's not great but not that bad for youtube, but there is no way to edit the audio track with effects or to clean up like pops and cracks. I made a video recording of my friend playing guitar and my digital camera picked up a lot of electronic pops....it was not from the guitar but I am thinking maybe the amp...since it is in mpeg Im not sure how to edit the audio separately and then put it back into the track...or if that is even possible.

any suggestions?

After a lot of research I came to believe that for my High Definition HDV editing Sony's Vegas Video 9 Platinum Edition was the best (until I can afford Vegas 8 Pro).

I think Vidoemaker Magazine and some other publications gave Vegas awards as the most for the money.

ManOfWord 03-01-2008 09:22 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronzo (Post 405315)
MOW...

If you're interested in selling your version of Vegas Pro, I'm interested.

Let me see what Avid does and make sure that I can upgrade it. I'll need a fall back plan just in case it doesn't work. If I no longer need it, you'll be the first to hear from me!! :D

CC1 03-01-2008 09:25 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Prax,

I forgot to mention that if you need to buy Vegas 8 Platinum Plus it retails for only about one hundred bucks and sometimes there are rebates. I got mine for about 65-70 after a rebate.

CC1 03-01-2008 09:27 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronzo (Post 405258)
I use Sony Vegas Movie Studio (Platinum Edition).


So far, I have no major gripes.

When I come to Austin if I bribe you with a meal will you show me the basics of how to use Vegas? Do you have Vegas 8 or a previous version?

Ronzo 03-01-2008 09:47 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
I have the home user version, Movie Studio (8).

No bribery needed. I'll cook... I owe you that.

Ronzo 03-01-2008 09:54 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 405405)
Prax,

I forgot to mention that if you need to buy Vegas 8 Platinum Plus it retails for only about one hundred bucks and sometimes there are rebates. I got mine for about 65-70 after a rebate.


You can usually pick it up on Amazon for a lot less than Sony sells it for on their site.

Praxeas 03-01-2008 10:19 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Again, thanks guys :-)

RandyWayne 03-01-2008 11:01 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
I use Adobe Premier myself. I love it!

Praxeas 03-01-2008 11:02 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 405438)
I use Adobe Premier myself. I love it!

Elements or just Adobe Premier?

RandyWayne 03-01-2008 11:18 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Premier as part of the Adobe Creative Suite Production Studion (includes Premier, Photoshop C2, Illustrator, Audition 2.0, Encore DVD 2.0, After Effects 7.0)

Praxeas 03-01-2008 11:38 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 405445)
Premier as part of the Adobe Creative Suite Production Studion (includes Premier, Photoshop C2, Illustrator, Audition 2.0, Encore DVD 2.0, After Effects 7.0)

Ok so then it's not elements like I have. It is probably a lot better. I was gonna get the web editing suite but it only includes photoshop and not premier or after effects

RandyWayne 03-01-2008 11:40 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
This one retails for over 1800 (but we paid about 300 as students through the UW Madison).

Praxeas 03-01-2008 11:49 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 405466)
This one retails for over 1800 (but we paid about 300 as students through the UW Madison).

right...my web suite would be cheaper though as an upgrade. I can or could have gotten it for like 500....Photoshop alone is that much lol

RandyWayne 03-01-2008 11:51 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Premier, Photoshop, and Audition are the three I use constantly.

Monkeyman 03-02-2008 12:12 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Final Cut Pro!!!!!!!!:bliss:bliss us dudes in the know call it FCP

Avid is good too...also, Avid (not express) is what a lot of TV stations use so...:)

Also, I need to mention, Apple's Imovie that comes with every mac is SIMPLE, and puts out a pretty good project. I have used it many times for small, tight-budgeted projects.

CC1 03-02-2008 12:24 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronzo (Post 405424)
You can usually pick it up on Amazon for a lot less than Sony sells it for on their site.

Believe me I am the ultimate bagain shopper. I search Amazon, google, nextag, pricegrabber, etc before I buy anything!

CC1 03-02-2008 12:26 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 405559)
Final Cut Pro!!!!!!!!:bliss:bliss us dudes in the know call it FCP

Avid is good too...also, Avid (not express) is what a lot of TV stations use so...:)

Also, I need to mention, Apple's Imovie that comes with every mac is SIMPLE, and puts out a pretty good project. I have used it many times for small, tight-budgeted projects.

Of course my dream is to have Final Cut Pro along with a top line Apple computer. However that is not in my budget right now.

I was stretching things to buy a new Dell dual core desktop with 4 gigs RAM, 320 gb HD, firewire ports, media card reader, DVD dual layer burner, etc. That was under $700 plus $180 for a new 20.1 Widescreen monitor from Tiger Direct where the Apple I want would be about $3000 minimum plus the $1200 for Final Cut.

ManOfWord 03-02-2008 02:29 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
I am working on getting Final Cut Pro to compare with Avid Express Pro. I just tried iMovie and it is terrible!!! It does not seem like you can drag clips onto a timeline and edit with fades, cuts etc. With Vegas Pro, you just drag the clip, drag the end or beginning of the clip to cut it, pick your fade effect and voila!!! :D

Monkeyman 03-06-2008 06:21 PM

Re: Video Editing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 405616)
I am working on getting Final Cut Pro to compare with Avid Express Pro. I just tried iMovie and it is terrible!!! It does not seem like you can drag clips onto a timeline and edit with fades, cuts etc. With Vegas Pro, you just drag the clip, drag the end or beginning of the clip to cut it, pick your fade effect and voila!!! :D

I didn't know there was an Avid express pro? I knew there was a normal avid and an express, hmm I need to look into that. There are 2nd party companies like Gee Three that make great add-ons to iMovie, I can turn around a small project in minutes if need be. Of course, it doesn't come near FCP which is a lot of fun to use I must say! The new iMovie '08 looks a lot like FCP now...

I would tell folks to hold out, save up the shlamolians and pay for the Apple gear, it is sooooooo much easier/faster to use. Your jobs that you pick up will pay for the gear in no time. For instance, I held out for a really nice camera ($$$) as soon as I got it, I started to land bigger jobs and it paid for itself in 2 jobs!!!


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