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COOPER 03-07-2008 07:06 AM

Do you automatically trust a man called Preacher?
 
Do you automatically trust a man that is a Preacher or Pastor?

Jesus said beware of False prophets...

Do not trust any one just because he is a "Man Of God" .

Mrs. LPW 03-07-2008 07:07 AM

Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
 
Hahahahahahaaaaaaaa


No.

Rico 03-07-2008 07:32 AM

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Of course I don't trust someone who calls himself a preacher just because he's a preacher.

MissBrattified 03-07-2008 07:37 AM

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No.

Digging4Truth 03-07-2008 07:38 AM

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Nope.

Barb 03-07-2008 07:39 AM

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No...so why are you asking?!

Rico 03-07-2008 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Barb (Post 409036)
No...so why are you asking?!

To get sunthin started!! Why else? :D

StillStanding 03-07-2008 07:46 AM

Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
 
In my business, some of our worse dealings are with preachers! :)

freeatlast 03-07-2008 08:00 AM

Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
 
My first thought would be to be cautious (distrust) till I see the fruits of his calling.

GodsBabyGirl 03-07-2008 08:11 AM

Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
 
My experience(s) has taught me NOT to automatically trust anyone who calls themself a preacher...

As a matter of fact, the exact opposite occurs most of the time. I goes a running.

Trust was to be earned...and even then I only give it in measure...

Just being honest...

GodsBabyGirl 03-07-2008 08:13 AM

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Not to insinuate that there are no trustworthy preachers out there. They are out there.

Ultimately, we have to place our 100% trust in God, not flesh.

Flesh fails, God doesn't....

LadyChocolate 03-07-2008 08:32 AM

Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GodsBabyGirl (Post 409064)
Not to insinuate that there are no trustworthy preachers out there. They are out there.

Ultimately, we have to place our 100% trust in God, not flesh.

Flesh fails, God doesn't....

That's right! I put my trust in preachers and have been let down.... Now, my trust is in God and I realize the preachers are as human as I am... They are going to make mistakes just like I am....

In answer to the question, no, I do not trust someone just because he says he's a preacher.... but I have a loooooooong list of great men of God who have proven themselves to be true to God! I trust them.........but I don't put them on a pedestal......

DividedThigh 03-07-2008 08:46 AM

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simple answer,nope, dt

CC1 03-07-2008 08:49 AM

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Hmmm.....a negative thread about preachers authored by COOP. How predictable.

The Mrs 03-07-2008 09:10 AM

Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
 
I'm going to go against the grain and say yes. I DO automatically trust a minister.

There are certain expectations associated with the office that should draw us into a trusting relationship just as you would automatically trust a police officer, a judge, or a doctor.

With age comes wisdom and life experiences that NOW tell me, I can trust to a certain degree, but keep my eyes wide open. :winkgrin

Joelel 03-07-2008 09:13 AM

Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 409022)
Do you automatically trust a man that is a Preacher or Pastor?

Jesus said beware of False prophets...

Do not trust any one just because he is a "Man Of God" .

Well,if he's a false preacher,he's not a man of God

Cindy 03-07-2008 09:14 AM

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No.

chosenbyone 03-07-2008 09:19 AM

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Preachers are people and they should earn trust like anyone else.

Joelel 03-07-2008 09:20 AM

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No,I trust no person,only God

Mrs. LPW 03-07-2008 09:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 409042)
In my business, some of our worse dealings are with preachers! :)

Hearin' ya. :)

Mrs. LPW 03-07-2008 09:38 AM

Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 409096)
Hmmm.....a negative thread about preachers authored by COOP. How predictable.

My hubby's a preacher, although working secular at the moment... and neither of us trust all preachers. :) Course, if this were to become a preacher bashing thread I'd be out like a light...
I think the Mrs. has it right... eyes open! (and that goes for anyone in a position of authority... )
I don't look for the bad in preachers, lawyers or anyone else, but it's only wise to be careful. There are men who only masquerade as Godly men and Godly preachers... I'm glad I don't know any personally!!! The Bible refers to them as wolves in sheeps clothing.

COOPER 03-07-2008 10:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mrs (Post 409124)
I'm going to go against the grain and say yes. I DO automatically trust a minister.

There are certain expectations associated with the office that should draw us into a trusting relationship just as you would automatically trust a police officer, a judge, or a doctor.

With age comes wisdom and life experiences that NOW tell me, I can trust to a certain degree, but keep my eyes wide open. :winkgrin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 409162)
My hubby's a preacher, although working secular at the moment... and neither of us trust all preachers. :) Course, if this were to become a preacher bashing thread I'd be out like a light...
I think the Mrs. has it right... eyes open! (and that goes for anyone in a position of authority... )
I don't look for the bad in preachers, lawyers or anyone else, but it's only wise to be careful. There are men who only masquerade as Godly men and Godly preachers... I'm glad I don't know any personally!!! The Bible refers to them as wolves in sheeps clothing.


Two great post!

I have to admit that I automatically trust the position of a Pastor or police officer....

But I have to remind my self they are just men.

COOPER 03-07-2008 10:22 AM

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Pastor I am going to trust you, but I have my eyes on you boy! LOL!

TRFrance 03-07-2008 10:23 AM

Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
 
If he's Apostolic, i'll trust him until he gives me reason not to.
Why not give him the benefit of the doubt?

If he's not apostolic...well, that's another story. Even more so if he doesnt even have the Holy Ghost.

Cindy 03-07-2008 10:24 AM

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yeah, yeah, yeah, whatEVER we don't automatically trust anyone named Cooper either.................:D

Mrs. LPW 03-07-2008 10:25 AM

Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 409213)
If he's Apostolic, i'll trust him until he gives me reason not to.
Why not give him the benefit of the doubt?

If he's not apostolic...well, that's another story. Even more so if he doesnt even have the Holy Ghost.

TR, there are some men and woman who have not yet seen the Oneness or Baptism in Jesus name who are very good and trustworthy people... people I would trust my life with if I had to. (Not my spiritual life, mind you.)

COOPER 03-07-2008 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 409214)
yeah, yeah, yeah, whatEVER we don't automatically trust anyone named Cooper either.................:D

AMEN!!!!!............:friend That right there is funny, I don't care who you are!

Cindy 03-07-2008 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 409215)
TR, there are some men and woman who have not yet seen the Oneness or Baptism in Jesus name who are very good and trustworthy people... people I would trust my life with if I had to.

Amen!

LadyChocolate 03-07-2008 10:37 AM

Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 409213)
If he's Apostolic, i'll trust him until he gives me reason not to.
Why not give him the benefit of the doubt?

If he's not apostolic...well, that's another story. Even more so if he doesnt even have the Holy Ghost.

As for me, this is how I see it! I can give anyone a chance.... But it doesn't take long for truth to come out.... I can't tell you how many times I have met or heard preachers and instantly I have felt vibes.... Sometimes their is something about that preacher or even person for that matter, something that I really like...... Then their are times when I don't care what they claim to be, some give me the willies! I usually take someone's word at first but it really doesn't take long for their actions to speak louder than their words....

Mrs. LPW 03-07-2008 10:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate (Post 409229)
As for me, this is how I see it! I can give anyone a chance.... But it doesn't take long for truth to come out.... I can't tell you how many times I have met or heard preachers and instantly I have felt vibes.... Sometimes their is something about that preacher or even person for that matter, something that I really like...... Then their are times when I don't care what they claim to be, some give me the willies! I usually take someone's word at first but it really doesn't take long for their actions to speak louder than their words....

I concur!
I find it's like this with all people... preachers and laymen and sinners alike.

CC1 03-07-2008 10:48 AM

Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 409208)
Two great post!

I have to admit that I automatically trust the position of a Pastor or police officer....

But I have to remind my self they are just men.


You have hit upon an important thought. People need to find that place where they respect and trust the office of Pastor but not blindly.

Some people, especially those who have been "burned" by a bad apples in the past, tend to get cynical and look at all preachers with distrust and cynicism. That is just as wrong as the actions of a bad preacher himself.

I try to approach those in ministry with respect and admiration until proven otherwise. However I do not blindly trust any human being nor do I think God expects us to. People that do that sometime end up in far off African countries drinking Kool Aid laced with poison!

LadyChocolate 03-07-2008 10:54 AM

Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 409243)
You have hit upon an important thought. People need to find that place where they respect and trust the office of Pastor but not blindly.

Some people, especially those who have been "burned" by a bad apples in the past, tend to get cynical and look at all preachers with distrust and cynicism. That is just as wrong as the actions of a bad preacher himself.

I try to approach those in ministry with respect and admiration until proven otherwise. However I do not blindly trust any human being nor do I think God expects us to. People that do that sometime end up in far off African countries drinking Kool Aid laced with poison!

How true and sad! I myself have been there too! I trusted preachers all my life and then we were really hurt by a pastor.... It was crazy and in my hurt I put all preachers into one category and thought that if this one man that I trusted did this, then others will also.... God really worked me over because my attitude was not right! God restored my faith in preachers.... Now I just don't put them on a pedestal. I do remember that they too, make mistakes...... Some mistakes I over look, some I just cannot over look!

CC1 03-07-2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyChocolate (Post 409252)
How true and sad! I myself have been there too! I trusted preachers all my life and then we were really hurt by a pastor.... It was crazy and in my hurt I put all preachers into one category and thought that if this one man that I trusted did this, then others will also.... God really worked me over because my attitude was not right! God restored my faith in preachers.... Now I just don't put them on a pedestal. I do remember that they too, make mistakes...... Some mistakes I over look, some I just cannot over look!


Many many years ago my mother was betrayed by a preacher she had counseled with as things she had told him in private made their way around the church. I don't think she ever got over it even though the pastor that suceeded that one was a wonderful man that she loved and did trust.

commonsense 03-07-2008 11:10 AM

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To answer the original question.... NO

A_PoMo 03-07-2008 11:37 AM

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To answer the question...absolutely, unqualified YES! If the man is a preacher he MUST be honest and good. I just hand over my wallet and my brain and sit down and await my orders like all good saints should do.

A_PoMo 03-07-2008 11:39 AM

Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 409243)
You have hit upon an important thought. People need to find that place where they respect and trust the office of Pastor but not blindly.

Some people, especially those who have been "burned" by a bad apples in the past, tend to get cynical and look at all preachers with distrust and cynicism. That is just as wrong as the actions of a bad preacher himself.

This is true. I struggle with this myself. I've been burned by three different pastors. My current pastor is a good man and affirms me left and right. But I find it difficult to trust him and I'm waiting for the other foot to fall.

Jack Shephard 03-07-2008 11:41 AM

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Absolutely not! I used to and got burned. I liken it to a story about a wolf in sheeps clothing. Gotta make sure a sheep is a sheep and not sheepish-wolf.

LadyChocolate 03-07-2008 11:42 AM

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I do want to say here for all you preachers out there that are doing your best to serve God, THANK YOU! I appreciate your time and effort that you put into God's kingdom... Where it seems like many have no respect and look for threads to jump in a bash the preacher, I want you to know you have respect!!!!! While I do not believe that all preachers are real men of God, I do have the upmost respect to the true men of God...

I heard an old timer say once, "Some are called, some are sent, and some just packed up and went"..... that about sums it up!!! LOL

Praxeas 03-07-2008 12:02 PM

Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 409022)
Do you automatically trust a man that is a Preacher or Pastor?

Jesus said beware of False prophets...

Do not trust any one just because he is a "Man Of God" .

No. First of all there is no office in the bible called Preacher. A preacher was someone that proclaimed the gospel and they did that out on the streets, not before a pulpit where the so called sheeple are bringing in the sinners....a preacher went OUT to where the sinners were at on the street and told them about Jesus.

Jack Shephard 03-07-2008 12:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 409213)
If he's Apostolic, i'll trust him until he gives me reason not to.
Why not give him the benefit of the doubt?

If he's not apostolic...well, that's another story. Even more so if he doesnt even have the Holy Ghost.

Because someone is OP or not OP does not make them trustworthy. Infact, I know some OP's that are WAY less trustworthy than non-OP's. I am not speaking for all but for some I know. Also having the HG does not automatically make someone trustworthy either side they are on. I start by trusting the mans word, if he breaks it he ain't worth his salt. That goes for any denomination.


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