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Dan'D 03-08-2008 03:39 PM

Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Obama's full name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.

That by itself is a reason not to vote for him. No one knows how he looks at the Muslim faith. His father was Muslim and his mother did not reject it, or they would not had given him that name.

Who was he named after with a middle name “Hussein”

In this time in history we don’t need to take any chances.

Dan’D

chosenbyone 03-08-2008 03:48 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan'D (Post 410310)
Obama's full name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.

That by itself is a reason not to vote for him. No one knows how he looks at the Muslim faith. His father was Muslim and his mother did not reject it, or they would not had given him that name.

Who was he named after with a middle name “Hussein”

In this time in history we don’t need to take any chances.

Dan’D

Oh, please! He was named well before any of us ever heard of Iraq's Hussein. Only people who were blinded by prejudice and who were narrow-minded would think that somehow his name affected his ability to lead our country.

Forgive me if I come across a bit harsh, but the notion that he should be judged on his birth-name and not his character or record seems unfair.

Do you think that he should have changed his name once Saddam fell out of favor with the CIA?

staysharp 03-08-2008 04:02 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan'D (Post 410310)
Obama's full name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.

That by itself is a reason not to vote for him. No one knows how he looks at the Muslim faith. His father was Muslim and his mother did not reject it, or they would not had given him that name.

Who was he named after with a middle name “Hussein”

In this time in history we don’t need to take any chances.

Dan’D

I've said all along, he will not be elected because of his name. Two of our arch enemies are Osama and Hussein. Regardless of how politically correct we want to be, middle America will not vote for a president who has muslim names. At the end of the day, it will be Hillary vs. McCain.

HeavenlyOne 03-08-2008 04:06 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan'D (Post 410310)
Obama's full name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.

That by itself is a reason not to vote for him. No one knows how he looks at the Muslim faith. His father was Muslim and his mother did not reject it, or they would not had given him that name.

Who was he named after with a middle name “Hussein”

In this time in history we don’t need to take any chances.

Dan’D

Are you responsible for what your parents named you? Does you name have anything to do with the kind of person you are?

If they named him David Jesus Smith, would that make you want to vote for him? Would his name be the reason he might be a Christian had he been named that?

HeavenlyOne 03-08-2008 04:06 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by staysharp (Post 410329)
I've said all along, he will not be elected because of his name. Two of our arch enemies are Osama and Hussein. Regardless of how politically correct we want to be, middle America will not vote for a president who has muslim names. At the end of the day, it will be Hillary vs. McCain.

The polls disagree at the moment.

Dan'D 03-08-2008 04:12 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 410331)
Are you responsible for what your parents named you? Does you name have anything to do with the kind of person you are?

If they named him David Jesus Smith, would that make you want to vote for him? Would his name be the reason he might be a Christian had he been named that?

The idea he has Muslim heritage does not bother you.

Dan’D

HeavenlyOne 03-08-2008 04:21 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
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Originally Posted by Dan'D (Post 410338)
The idea he has Muslim heritage does not bother you.

Dan’D

He's been a professing Christian for over 25 years now. He hasn't had Muslim influence since he was about ten years old. There are lots of Christians who have a Muslim background. Do we not trust any of them either?

Cindy 03-08-2008 04:35 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
I don't have a problem with his name, but I do have a problem with his politics.

Dan'D 03-08-2008 04:35 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 410342)
He's been a professing Christian for over 25 years now. He hasn't had Muslim influence since he was about ten years old. There are lots of Christians who have a Muslim background. Do we not trust any of them either?

Ten years is a long time to be. Do you remember back when you were 10.

Not a risk I'm willing to take.

Dan'D

scotty 03-08-2008 04:49 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Did any of you see the news report about the terrorist dancing in the streets when Obama won all those states a week or two ago ?

Gotta find that again...

HeavenlyOne 03-08-2008 05:12 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan'D (Post 410352)
Ten years is a long time to be. Do you remember back when you were 10.

Not a risk I'm willing to take.

Dan'D

ROFL!

Yes, I remember when I was ten, but I can't tell you what I learned in Sunday School. I remember being there, but I just can't remember what I learned exactly. I was also in school, but I can't tell you the names of three kids in my class. Thinks that I learned up until I was ten really don't matter to me today. I have learned a lot since I was ten that has made me into the person I am today.

Do you not believe that God changes people? This guy is a Christian according to his own lips. If that's true, why are you underestimating the power of God?

That's exactly what you are doing if you think this guy will suddenly become Muslim in office after all these years.

Like someone else said, it's his politics that bother me more than his name or how he was raised.

Dan'D 03-08-2008 05:15 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 410368)
ROFL!

Yes, I remember when I was ten, but I can't tell you what I learned in Sunday School. I remember being there, but I just can't remember what I learned exactly. I was also in school, but I can't tell you the names of three kids in my class. Thinks that I learned up until I was ten really don't matter to me today. I have learned a lot since I was ten that has made me into the person I am today.

Do you not believe that God changes people? This guy is a Christian according to his own lips. If that's true, why are you underestimating the power of God?

That's exactly what you are doing if you think this guy will suddenly become Muslim in office after all these years.

Like someone else said, it's his politics that bother me more than his name or how he was raised.

Combination of both.

Dan’D

chosenbyone 03-08-2008 05:25 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
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Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 410351)
I don't have a problem with his name, but I do have a problem with his politics.

I can respect that you don't share his political views. :friend

It's when people discriminate against others because of their race, ethnic background, creed, sex, etc...that all my respect goes out the window. I wonder if God is pleased when we discriminate against others like the world does?

Sometimes, it gets very hard to recognize some folks as Christians when they don't demonstrate the love of Christ. People continue to judge others without any noticeable concern on how it must grieve the Lord and how it may effect them on judgment day.

OP_Carl 03-10-2008 05:08 AM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan'D (Post 410310)
Obama's full name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.

That by itself is a reason not to vote for him. No one knows how he looks at the Muslim faith. His father was Muslim and his mother did not reject it, or they would not had given him that name.

Who was he named after with a middle name “Hussein”

In this time in history we don’t need to take any chances.

Dan’D

Hussein was a grandson of the Prophet Mohammed. I don't have a problem with his name. Michael Savage does, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan'D (Post 410338)
The idea he has Muslim heritage does not bother you?

Dan’D

Not nearly so much as his black separatist church bothers me. An Obama presidency is not likely to help race relations.

SOUNWORTHY 03-10-2008 09:43 AM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 410368)
ROFL!

Yes, I remember when I was ten, but I can't tell you what I learned in Sunday School. I remember being there, but I just can't remember what I learned exactly. I was also in school, but I can't tell you the names of three kids in my class. Thinks that I learned up until I was ten really don't matter to me today. I have learned a lot since I was ten that has made me into the person I am today.

Do you not believe that God changes people? This guy is a Christian according to his own lips. .


So is Jesse Jackson but his record doesn't ring true. From my own lips, I'm a Dr. but you don't want me to operate on you.

Jack Shephard 03-10-2008 10:04 AM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
No,I have no problem witn it. He can not help what he was named. Now if he was born one name then changed it to that it becomes a little different, but still no problem for me. I have known many, many people with these types of names and they have been great American citizens. Infact, even though I am not for much of what he is for I am not too sure I would have a problem with him being the Prez. I would however rather McCain win.

ChristopherHall 03-13-2008 08:35 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
I have no issue with his name.

Neck 03-14-2008 10:38 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
I now have a problem with him. I think he is lying about the knowledge of his pastor's point of view on the USA.

Obama will not be president.

I am starting to think John M will win...

Jermyn Davidson 03-17-2008 03:53 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
I do not have a problem with his name. I disagree with a few of his positions. I hope he makes it to the general election as I really would like to see McCain and Obama square off.

Fiyahstarter 03-17-2008 09:37 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neckstadt (Post 414989)
I now have a problem with him. I think he is lying about the knowledge of his pastor's point of view on the USA.

Obama will not be president.

I think he's lying about his pastor and religious stance and his loyalty to America too. I wonder if his name is a warning sign for us??

I hope you are right -- that he will NOT be president.

RevDWW 03-17-2008 09:47 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
I guess I can pronounce it rather well so no I don't have a problem with his name. His policies on the other hand are a whole different story..........:ursofunny

HeavenlyOne 03-17-2008 10:13 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter (Post 416774)
I think he's lying about his pastor and religious stance and his loyalty to America too. I wonder if his name is a warning sign for us??

I hope you are right -- that he will NOT be president.

You know, I think in a lot of ways, Mark was right all along........

Fiyahstarter 03-18-2008 05:48 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 416793)
You know, I think in a lot of ways, Mark was right all along........

Where is that dude, anyway? I miss sparring with him.

RandyWayne 03-18-2008 05:51 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Honestly my only "problem" with Obama's name (middle or otherwise) is that the media has considered it sacred and "off limits". It is even considered RACIST to merely utter his middle name!

Jermyn Davidson 03-18-2008 08:21 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 417450)
Honestly my only "problem" with Obama's name (middle or otherwise) is that the media has considered it sacred and "off limits". It is even considered RACIST to merely utter his middle name!


How many people know John McCain's middle name-- does his middle name have any bearing on why you may or may not support him?

Why should Barak Obama's middle name matter then--why should it be discussed? What would you discuss about it?

HeavenlyOne 03-18-2008 10:43 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter (Post 417448)
Where is that dude, anyway? I miss sparring with him.

Email him via his username profile here.

Rico 03-19-2008 05:25 AM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
I wondered how long it would be before someone started a thread about Barak Obama's name. If it wasn't so pathetic it might actually be funny.

SOUNWORTHY 03-20-2008 07:17 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
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Originally Posted by 1399 (Post 417510)
How many people know John McCain's middle name-- does his middle name have any bearing on why you may or may not support him?

Why should Barak Obama's middle name matter then--why should it be discussed? What would you discuss about it?

John Sidney McCain III

It's not Obama's first name, middle name or last name, nor the color of his skin or political party that bothers me. It's what we don't know about him. His wife and his pastor have already told the truth about how they feels about this great country of ours.

HeavenlyOne 03-20-2008 10:23 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Sidney???

Uh, did you know that if you remove the d, e, and y, you end up with SIN???

Sorry, can't vote for John. Sin is his middle name!!!

tamor 03-21-2008 09:15 AM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 419959)
Sidney???

Uh, did you know that if you remove the d, e, and y, you end up with SIN???

Sorry, can't vote for John. Sin is his middle name!!!

You go, Girlfriend!! :bliss

HeavenlyOne 03-21-2008 11:17 AM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
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Originally Posted by tamor (Post 420080)
You go, Girlfriend!! :bliss

Hey, I'm trying to keep the intelligence in this thread!! Thanks for the kudos!

tamor 03-21-2008 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 420171)
Hey, I'm trying to keep the intelligence in this thread!! Thanks for the kudos!

Sounds good to me!

Felicity 03-21-2008 11:21 AM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 410331)
Are you responsible for what your parents named you? Does you name have anything to do with the kind of person you are?

If they named him David Jesus Smith, would that make you want to vote for him? Would his name be the reason he might be a Christian had he been named that?

Exactly.

Truly Blessed 03-22-2008 10:57 AM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Some folks would be opposed to Barak Obama being president for the same reason they would be against someone like Obama being their pastor. He thinks outside the box and represents change. The problem with some Christians is that they make choices about politics based on religious views. The Presidency is a secular office not a religious office and the choice for president should be made on the basis of who is most qualified to make the secular decisions needed to manage the economy and provide national security for the USA.

Some of the presidents who have been perceived as the most devoted Christians have proven to be among the worst disasters as president. Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush come to mind.

Barb 03-22-2008 12:05 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed (Post 420802)
Some folks would be opposed to Barak Obama being president for the same reason they would be against someone like Obama being their pastor. He thinks outside the box and represents change. The problem with some Christians is that they make choices about politics based on religious views. The Presidency is a secular office not a religious office and the choice for president should be made on the basis of who is most qualified to make the secular decisions needed to manage the economy and provide national security for the USA.

Some of the presidents who have been perceived as the most devoted Christians have proven to be among the worst disasters as president. Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush come to mind.

My sentiments exactly, TB...:thumbsup

Discerner 03-24-2008 12:01 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR SOMEONE NAMED OBAMA, OSAMA, or HUSSEIN!

President Obama is hunting Osama!

yea right!

Obama's campaign and possible presidency is a joke; if it is not based 100% on race i dont know what is! He is a racist muslim for crying out loud!! I'm sorry but what his "pastor" says is not comparable to UPC doctrine and if you think so you need to find another "denom". Our radicalisms do not stir hatred. (or so i hope) I cannot believe the state of Americans nor can I imagine what goes through the minds of voters defiling our country b voting for Hussien!

Why is Hillary not playing this up? Do voters know his name? Why dont they care? What about mothers, fathers and brothers, children who died fighting in the Middle East against Hussein's tyranny? Now their neighbors are voting and they will be subjects of President Hussein.

I cannot imagine! It makes me wanna move!

chosenbyone 03-24-2008 12:14 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed (Post 420802)
Some folks would be opposed to Barak Obama being president for the same reason they would be against someone like Obama being their pastor. He thinks outside the box and represents change. The problem with some Christians is that they make choices about politics based on religious views. The Presidency is a secular office not a religious office and the choice for president should be made on the basis of who is most qualified to make the secular decisions needed to manage the economy and provide national security for the USA.

Some of the presidents who have been perceived as the most devoted Christians have proven to be among the worst disasters as president. Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush come to mind.

Excellent post and very true! Politicians have used the "I am a Christian" card to deceive many folks into thinking that they would be guided by God with their decisions while in office. I would have thought that Americans would have seen through that web of deceit while GWB was in office, but sadly people remained absolute in believing the hype.

Discerner 03-24-2008 12:16 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed (Post 420802)
Some folks would be opposed to Barak Obama being president for the same reason they would be against someone like Obama being their pastor. He thinks outside the box and represents change. The problem with some Christians is that they make choices about politics based on religious views. The Presidency is a secular office not a religious office and the choice for president should be made on the basis of who is most qualified to make the secular decisions needed to manage the economy and provide national security for the USA.

Some of the presidents who have been perceived as the most devoted Christians have proven to be among the worst disasters as president. Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush come to mind.

You have to have time to judge Bush. I dont have a problem with someone standing behind religious convictions. I guess we should elect a homo loving, baby killing, tax raisiang, week defense minded president and then you would be happy.

chosenbyone 03-24-2008 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Discerner (Post 422028)
I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR SOMEONE NAMED OBAMA, OSAMA, or HUSSEIN!

President Obama is hunting Osama!

yea right!

Do you think that Bush did a great job in hunting down Osama? Six months after declaring that Osama should be caught dead or alive, Bush stated that he wasn't concerned about Osama. He took the focus from Afghanistan and he poured all of our resources to fight an illegal war in Iraq, which was started on lies and deception. Research the web to find out the truth instead of propagating the spin from Washington.

Truth will always come to light eventually...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tcib62ibR0k&feature=related

Michael Phelps 03-24-2008 12:28 PM

Re: Does anyone have a problem with Obama's name?
 
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Originally Posted by chosenbyone (Post 422081)
Do you think that Bush did a great job in hunting down Osama? Six months after declaring that Osama should be caught dead or alive, Bush stated that he wasn't concerned about Osama. He took the focus from Afghanistan and he poured all of our resources to fight an illegal war in Iraq, which was started on lies and deception. Research the web to find out the truth instead of propagating the spin from Washington.

Truth will always come to light eventually...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tcib62ibR0k&feature=related

The bolded statement causes me great concern. If you're relying on the Web to provide you with truth, I can see the cause of your confusion!


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