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Sister Alvear 03-16-2008 05:45 PM

Did Jesus dance ?
 
This sounds so funny but one of my SS students brought up this subject today? What so you folks think?

Do you want my answer first?

Rhoni 03-16-2008 05:48 PM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
I have a better question..."Was Jesus happy?"

Sister Alvear 03-16-2008 05:51 PM

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Yes, Rhoni I believe he was...some may differ with my opinion.

Barb 03-16-2008 06:24 PM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
Oh my...just moments ago my mom and me watched a DVD from BOTT 2008, and Bro. Willoughby just spoke this.

He said that in Luke 10:21 where it reads, "...Jesus rejoiced in spirit," it actually means He leaped, jumped for joy.

So, do I believe He danced?! Sure do...!!

Monkeyman 03-16-2008 07:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 415809)
I have a better question..."Was Jesus happy?"

Well, all them kids wouldn't come around someone grumpy!:grumpy

Cindy 03-16-2008 07:22 PM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
I think he did. And I believe he was very happy. Happiness is a choice.

Sam 03-16-2008 07:40 PM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barb (Post 415822)
Oh my...just moments ago my mom and me watched a DVD from BOTT 2008, and Bro. Willoughby just spoke this.

He said that in Luke 10:21 where it reads, "...Jesus rejoiced in spirit," it actually means He leaped, jumped for joy.

So, do I believe He danced?! Sure do...!!

Zephaniah 3:14-17 says that YHWH will rejoice and dance over His people in love and joy.

Shout for joy, daughter of Zion,
Israel, shout aloud!
Rejoice, exult with all your heart,
daughter of Jerusalem!
Yahweh has repealed your sentence;
he has driven your enemies away.
Yahweh, the king of Israel is in your midst;
you have no more evil to fear.
When that day comes, word will come to Jerusalem
Zion, have no fear,
do not let your hands fall limp,
Yahweh your God is in your midst,
a victorious warrior.
He will exult with joy over you,
he will renew you by his love;
he will dance with shouts of joy for you
as on a day of festival.
from The Jerusalem Bible

As a dispensationalist I believe this refers to a time in the future when Israel is restored, however, I also believe it applies spiritually to God's people right now. I think it shows that God is so in love with us that He is giddily dancing over us.

ManOfWord 03-16-2008 07:53 PM

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I don't think I'm off base here, but I can almost guarantee you without any doubt whatsoever that indeed, Jesus danced. Dancing was and is part of the Jewish culture. However, it was not the eyes closed, arms flailing, running into things etc, that so many pentecostals call dancing before the Lord.

Jews, for thousands of years, have celebrated the goodness of God in their cultural dance and still do today. :D

Mrs. LPW 03-16-2008 08:45 PM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barb (Post 415822)
Oh my...just moments ago my mom and me watched a DVD from BOTT 2008, and Bro. Willoughby just spoke this.

He said that in Luke 10:21 where it reads, "...Jesus rejoiced in spirit," it actually means He leaped, jumped for joy.

So, do I believe He danced?! Sure do...!!

You beat me to the punch. :)

Mrs. LPW 03-16-2008 08:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 415869)
Zephaniah 3:14-17 says that YHWH will rejoice and dance over His people in love and joy.

Shout for joy, daughter of Zion,
Israel, shout aloud!
Rejoice, exult with all your heart,
daughter of Jerusalem!
Yahweh has repealed your sentence;
he has driven your enemies away.
Yahweh, the king of Israel is in your midst;
you have no more evil to fear.
When that day comes, word will come to Jerusalem
Zion, have no fear,
do not let your hands fall limp,
Yahweh your God is in your midst,
a victorious warrior.
He will exult with joy over you,
he will renew you by his love;
he will dance with shouts of joy for you
as on a day of festival.
from The Jerusalem Bible

As a dispensationalist I believe this refers to a time in the future when Israel is restored, however, I also believe it applies spiritually to God's people right now. I think it shows that God is so in love with us that He is giddily dancing over us.


:thumbsup

Barb 03-16-2008 09:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 415934)
You beat me to the punch. :)

Two great minds, eh?!:)

Joelel 03-16-2008 09:26 PM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 415807)
This sounds so funny but one of my SS students brought up this subject today? What so you folks think?

Do you want my answer first?


Let me ask you one ? Who did he worship in the dance if he did dance ?

Sherri 03-16-2008 09:32 PM

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I believe He danced and rejoiced; it was a part of His culture.

RandyWayne 03-16-2008 09:39 PM

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The interesting question for me is, did he ever dance to have "fun"? Or was it always as a form of worship?
That is right up there with:
Did He ever laugh at a joke?
Did He ever tell a joke?
Did He ever play tag or hide and seek with other kids? Or his parents?
Did He ever belly laugh as a baby or toddler when his mother went "PEEK.... a boo!"?
Did He drink any of the wine that He made at the wedding?

Sister Alvear 03-16-2008 10:39 PM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
My answer to my class:

Jesus was Jewish and born under the law thus he celebrated the feasts and we know he went to the wedding where he changed water to wine...The feasts were times of dancing and so were Jewish weddings...it was a part of their culture in that day and even a part of their culture today...Yes I believed he danced...not some made up dance but the dances that fit into their culture.

Sister Alvear 03-16-2008 10:42 PM

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Rabbi Eleasar said,

Some day the Holy One, blessed be He, will give a dance to the righteous, and He will sit among them in the garden of Eden, and each one will point his finger at him saying, as it is written, 'Lo, this is our God, we have waited for him, that he might save us. This is the Lord, we have waited for him, let us be glad and rejoice in his salvation' (Jewish Encyclopedia Vol. 4, p 426).

The Rabbi quotes from Isa.25.6-8. In his view, for God to make a feast is for God to make a dance, because the Hebrew word for feast, machol, is to circle or dance.

Sister Alvear 03-16-2008 10:47 PM

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If I remember my history right it was the catholic church that took dancing OUT of the church...

Sister Alvear 03-16-2008 10:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 415883)
I don't think I'm off base here, but I can almost guarantee you without any doubt whatsoever that indeed, Jesus danced. Dancing was and is part of the Jewish culture. However, it was not the eyes closed, arms flailing, running into things etc, that so many pentecostals call dancing before the Lord.

Jews, for thousands of years, have celebrated the goodness of God in their cultural dance and still do today. :D

beautiful...I love it...
While I am not against dancing in the spirit(our Pentecostal term) I think there are many things we can learn from our Jewish messiah...

Hoovie 03-16-2008 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Joelel (Post 415970)

Let me ask you one ? Who did he worship in the dance if he did dance ?

His Father, God.

Sister Alvear 03-17-2008 09:03 AM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joelel (Post 415970)

Let me ask you one ? Who did he worship in the dance if he did dance ?

Joelel Hi, I do read your postings on other threads and find you to be quite interesting..Sometimes maybe a little too blunt but interesting...

Joelel, I am a oneness believer and I believe Jesus was both God and man...However I am not a Bible teacher so I will leave that part to those that are. However I believe he danced as man...as flesh..The same way he ate, he drank, he suffered...

Jesus was our example...that was why he was baptized and why he prayed...he was a fleshly man...the Word became flesh and dwelt among us...

ManOfWord 03-17-2008 10:05 AM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joelel (Post 415970)

Let me ask you one ? Who did he worship in the dance if he did dance ?

Why would He have to worship anyone? Does dance have to be "worship?" Why can't it just be dancing for joy?

Do you think God takes joy in His creation?

Sam 03-17-2008 10:26 AM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joelel (Post 415970)

Let me ask you one ? Who did he worship in the dance if he did dance ?

As a man/human He would worship YHWH the Father.
Just as He prayed as a man of flesh (ref Psalm 65:2) to YHWH his Abba.

As a man, Jesus prayed.
As God, He answers our prayers (ref John 14:14-14)

TRFrance 03-17-2008 11:33 AM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barb (Post 415822)
Oh my...just moments ago my mom and me watched a DVD from BOTT 2008, and Bro. Willoughby just spoke this.

He said that in Luke 10:21 where it reads, "...Jesus rejoiced in spirit," it actually means He leaped, jumped for joy.

So, do I believe He danced?! Sure do...!!

Well, pardon me for nitpicking here but...

First of all I do believe Jesus danced. It was normative in his culture to do so.

But I wouldn't use that Luke 10:21 scripture to support my belief. I don't know where that preacher got the meanings "leaped" and "jumped" from in this instance, but it certainly wasn't the from the text in question . The word used in the Greek (egalliasato, from the root agalliao) , means to exult or to rejoice exceedingly. But Agalliao does not mean to leap, or to jump.

I think it's probably a bit of a stretch to conclude from the original text that Jesus was dancing in Luke 21 (although of course we don't know for sure that he didnt).

Sam 03-17-2008 11:50 AM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 415980)
The interesting question for me is, did he ever dance to have "fun"? Or was it always as a form of worship?
That is right up there with:
Did He ever laugh at a joke?
Did He ever tell a joke?
Did He ever play tag or hide and seek with other kids? Or his parents?
Did He ever belly laugh as a baby or toddler when his mother went "PEEK.... a boo!"?
Did He drink any of the wine that He made at the wedding?

In my mind, I imagine Jesus and His followers probably had some fun among themselves, probably some jokes, pranks, etc. like lots of guys hanging out together. I'm sure Jesus had a sense of humor. i don't think He was dour and crabby and went about with a scowl on His face. He seemed approachable to those with needs and it seems that children liked Him.

As a child I'm sure He laughed and played just like the other kids.
There is something precious (maybe because I'm old and a grandparent now) about a child's smile and a child's laugh. I love to see children playing happily and just enjoying life.

Joelel 03-19-2008 03:15 AM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 416125)
Joelel Hi, I do read your postings on other threads and find you to be quite interesting..Sometimes maybe a little too blunt but interesting...

Joelel, I am a oneness believer and I believe Jesus was both God and man...However I am not a Bible teacher so I will leave that part to those that are. However I believe he danced as man...as flesh..The same way he ate, he drank, he suffered...

Jesus was our example...that was why he was baptized and why he prayed...he was a fleshly man...the Word became flesh and dwelt among us...

Thank You Sister,I see you as a wonderful person.I don't call it blunt,I call it bold and I really don't like argueing with people as I do many times but I know there are people who read what I say and believe.

I don't know if he did ever dance or leap for joy so I just thought I would ask that question to see what people say.May Jesus lead you all the days of your life.

Sister Alvear 03-19-2008 05:23 AM

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Jesus attended the feasts...the feasts were happy occasions, studing Jewish history they danced at weddings, victories after winning wars and on and on. I really believe Jesus danced in his culture...I love Jewish festival dances.
I have studied for many years the Hebrew people...
Of course in most oneness circles if you say dance you are branded some far out ballet dancer...lol...
In my studies somewhere I did read that it was the Catholic church that stopped dancing...somewhere else I read that many of the first churches that were built they had a hall for dancing their dance celebrations...

I do think it is interesting however some people shy away from these things...

Of course I believe in the 1000 year earthly reign and that we will celebrate the feast of the tabernacles...so I am a real oddball...ha...(not a doctrine of our church just a personal belief)

missdkendall 03-29-2008 12:11 PM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barb (Post 415822)
Oh my...just moments ago my mom and me watched a DVD from BOTT 2008, and Bro. Willoughby just spoke this.

He said that in Luke 10:21 where it reads, "...Jesus rejoiced in spirit," it actually means He leaped, jumped for joy.

So, do I believe He danced?! Sure do...!!

BUMP........... I think Jesus danced, and I know David did:bliss

Sister Alvear 03-29-2008 01:19 PM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
Jesus was at the jewish festivals so it is safe to say he danced...his first miracle was at a wedding and we know they danced at weddings...
Like it or not Jesus was a part of a culture that danced...

Sam 03-29-2008 01:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 427386)
...
Like it or not Jesus was a part of a culture that danced...

Heaven forbid, Sis. Alvear, to imply that Jesus might have danced could shock some Baptists, Pentecostals, and Holiness folks who have an issue with dancing.


However, I agree with you. I can picture Jesus dancing on occasion. I can't picture Him as a "sour puss" and "kill joy."

P.S. I saw a sign in the bathroom of a house where some Apostolics lived. It said, "Singing in the shower is allowed but dancing is frowned upon."

MawMaw 03-29-2008 03:43 PM

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Oh yes ma'am......I believe with all my heart that Jesus danced and laughed and had good times with those he loved.....I can imagine him with children....being happy and joyful and playful with them. :)

Sister Alvear 03-29-2008 03:57 PM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 427416)
Heaven forbid, Sis. Alvear, to imply that Jesus might have danced could shock some Baptists, Pentecostals, and Holiness folks who have an issue with dancing.


However, I agree with you. I can picture Jesus dancing on occasion. I can't picture Him as a "sour puss" and "kill joy."

P.S. I saw a sign in the bathroom of a house where some Apostolics lived. It said, "Singing in the shower is allowed but dancing is frowned upon."



been around a few like that in my life...they sure will feel out of place in our happy eternity...

jaxfam6 03-29-2008 06:20 PM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
My opinion is that Jesus went to a wedding and changed water to wine. Traditional Jewish weddings have lots of dancing, drinking, and eating.
Yep you bet he did. He was probably the biggest dancer there.

Do I have Biblical proof that he actually did dance? NO
Do I care if anyone agrees with me? NOPE

David danced before the Lord and it pleased Him so I would hope that when He took on flesh he would do similar things.

LadyChocolate 03-29-2008 06:40 PM

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I just had a funny picture of Jewish line dancing! LOL :party

ok, continue with the serious discussion! just ignore me and carry on!

Hoovie 03-29-2008 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyChocolate (Post 427580)
I just had a funny picture of Jewish line dancing! LOL :party

ok, continue with the serious discussion! just ignore me and carry on!

I just had a vision of Jesus and the twelve spinning on there heads at a disco!

jaxfam6 03-29-2008 06:48 PM

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Bet he even drank some WINE.

Oh lord forgive me, I have now really let the cat out of the bag. Pentecost is going to be over run with drunken dancing crazy people

jaxfam6 03-29-2008 06:50 PM

Re: Did Jesus dance ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate (Post 427580)
I just had a funny picture of Jewish line dancing! LOL :party

ok, continue with the serious discussion! just ignore me and carry on!

Jewish country western music. Now that would be painful on the ears.

Country music is anyway.

acg 01-26-2011 04:03 PM

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The book of Psalms instucts us to praise the LORD in the dance, I know Jesus did because He is the fullfiment of scripture.


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