God created more then one male and female.
 

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Adam lived several hundred years and so did Eve...imagine how many children they had and imagine how many children their children had? That is where all the people came from.

Gen 2 is an elaboration of day 6

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It's fine that you believe what you have stated, just realize it is speculation. The problem with speculations is...it's speculation. There are some things that the scriptures don't tell us and so people start speculating. That's why there is always weird doctrines popping up all the time.

What's wrong with saying, "The Scripture doesn't tell exactly where they came from?"

God created the heavens and the earth, God formed man from the created earth. This is no great mystery. Man was form after the earth was created which supports your definition of "formed", don't make things harder than they are.

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Adam and Eve had numerous children; they had been told to "fill the earth" (Gen 1:28). Cain's guilt and fear over killing his brother were heavy, and he probably feared repercussions from his family. If he was capable of killing, so were they. The wife Cain chose may have been one of his sisters or a niece. The human race was still genetically pure, and there was no fear of side effects from marrying relatives.

Just b/c it doesn't mention others doesn't mean they weren't there.
Gen. 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again....
'Again' doesn't mean the second time. Strong's Concordance says it means 'more' or 'a good while'. There could have been females born and just not mentioned.

Genesis 1:27 God CREATED man in his own image....
God did create (make) man and woman.....

YOUR WORDS 2:7-25 God formed Adam(formed means to take something already created and form it. This is why it says he formed Adam, it don't say he created him. So It is very clear this is two different events.)

You just contradicted yourself.


YOUR WORDS 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

2:16-17 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it.

Have you never said 'everything, except that'. Just b/c God says 'every' then tells them something they can eat of doesn't mean it's two different events.

Gen. 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature....

It did not say every creature.

Gen. 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

It could mean no creature that was formed in Gen. 1:24 was not a suitable companion for him.


But I totally agree with gloryseeker. People start to analyze scripture too much and people start to think they get new revelations. Which is exactly why we have so many false doctrines.

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There is one race, the human race. There are many ethnicities which are a result of different cultures, and different physical attributes that develop from different longstanding geographical locations. I believed we all looked the same until we were spread over the earth. Time changed our outward appearance. Assuming there were people other than Adam and Eve before the fall suggests there were perfect, sinless people somewhere that were not affected by the fall.

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Do you think that Adam and Eve had just three children, and only sons?

In one thousand years from the time Adam and Eve were ousted until Noah started building the ark, over half a million people were on the earth.

There is no way of knowing how much time had passed between them being ousted and Cain being banished, but it's possible that 500 years had passed, meaning that it's possible that there was 100,000 people on the earth by that time.

In addition, there are very few 'true' races. Most of us are mixed and have been for thousands of years. For instance, Europeans aren't a true race and never have been. Central Americans aren't a true race. Hispanics aren't a true race.

Your true races that exist are those like the American Indians, Black Africans, and Orientals. There are a few more but they don't have many people left. Even among American Indians, there are some tribes that are virtually extinct now.

Educate yourself not only with the Bible, but with what you are assuming to have happened.

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Where did Cain get a wife and the people to start building a city?Adam and Eve didn't have more children until after Cain knew his wife and built a city.Gen.4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
Genesis 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew

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How do you know Adam and Eve didn't have any more children? When it said 'Adam knew his wife again' several times could mean again. Just because the daughters aren't mentioned doesn't mean they weren't there.

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Seth took the place of Abel.Genesis 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew

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very weak reasoning, not to mention that this opinion practically wipes out every new testament reference to Adam an sin, and Christ as the second Adam. And if this were so, what about the others that God created, they wern't given the chance to be in Eden? come on, is this the best thing to discuss/debate?

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Joel try reading what others are posting, your questions were already answered. BTW...do you believe the flood was world wide and killed everyone but Noah and his family?

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Once again, as others have stated, this does not reconcile the fact that there were no daughters prior to Seth. Seth may have been a replacement for Abel, but the argument does not hold water that Seth was indeed the 3rd child. Women, for various reasons and their stature in the Old testament, were not mentioned. This even caries into the NT with the feeding of the 5000. It states there were 5000 men. No mention of the women or children.

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Where does scripture say that they didn't have any more children until Seth was born?

Trust me on this. I fully believe that Adam, being a typical man, 'knew' his wife quite often! It's also fact that they had many sons and daughters.

Gen 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: 4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

It doesn't say that he begat those sons and daughters AFTER Seth, but that he had many children. We know he had at least two before Seth, but they aren't mentioned as being born before Seth, but rather, they are mentioned in the 'begat sons and daughters' portion of the verse.

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Me thinks that Joelel isn't interested in what anyone else has to say, but instead just wants a sounding board to hear himself preach heresy.

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Rom 5:12
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (KJV)

Rom 5:15
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. (KJV)

If other men were created apart from Adam then Adams sin would have no bearing on them which would make the above scriptures inaccurate that through one man's sin all of mankind was affected.

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We assume there were daughters, maybe many.
There could also have been sons, even many of them.

Cain and Abel were adults when they brought their offerings.
Maybe Eve considered her new little boy a replacement for her adult son, Abel.


Of course, we can come up with other ideas like maybe people landed on earth from other planets and that's who the one or two children of Adam and Eve married.
Or we can believe Adam's few children mated with animals and much of the population was from them.

Something not mentioned is that some believe that Eve was not Adam's first wife. They believe that his first wife was someone named Lillith and Eve was a replacement for her. Maybe Adam had children by Lilleth before he had children with Eve.

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Paul seems to say so in Acts 17:26

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You are right. Even IF there were other people on the earth, they would have been erradicated by the flood. Yet from Noah and his three sons, we have a variety of races today.

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You guys all have to realize too that just because it gives Cain's lineage and all the kids he had does not mean he had all those kids before Seth was born and had kids or before Adam and Eve had kids...

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The sons of God in Gen 6 are sons of SETH and the daughters of men were children of Cain.

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It also doesn't prove they didn't, which is your claim.

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Nope,there were people of all races on the boat.Gen.6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee;they shall be male and female

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Scripture for how many people were on the earth? Do the math!

Adam died (and yes, I'm a math whiz) just 57 years after Noah was born. There were over half a million people on the earth when Noah started building the ark almost 500 years later. Noah was the last man to live as long as he did. His sons and those thereafter didn't live much longer than 120.

Adam through Noah, those people lived to see 8-10 generations after them. The numbers are exponential as to their direct descendants alone. Spread that family tree out farther as more people arrived on the earth and you get into the massive thousands quickly.

I knew a woman who lived to see five generations or her family. In total, she had over 500 descendants, over 200 of them being great-grandchildren. She only had 10 kids herself.

If one women and one man can produce that many in less than 100 years today, just imagine what Adam and Eve alone did in 1000 years!

Consider that only the eldest son of each bloodline is mentioned after Seth. However, there were countless other people involved that aren't mentioned. Noah had brothers and sisters. NONE of them were in the ark. Not a one.

However, interesting to note is that the bloodline mentioned before Noah had died before the flood happened, even his own father. I'm speaking only of those who are named in Genesis 6.

You also need to understand that the first 6 or 7 chapters of Genesis go back and forth in time. This is evidenced by chapter 6 reflecting on things that took place in the previous chapters, but speaks as if it didn't happen until chapter 6.

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Wow. Are you suggesting that although the Bible mentions several times that only 8 people were on the ark, the writers of the Bible didn't consider people of other races to be people? Cause that's exactly what you are doing.

In fact, the writers of the Bible don't ever acknowledge the presence of people of other races during the beginning of time from creation to after the flood! Proof that racism existed from creation and also came from God???

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Silence isn't a valid argument. Your points are all based on things the Bible never says, but you ask others for scriptural proof? LOL!