Truthfully...Do you believe in luck?
 

There are some people I have counseled with in the past who have a 'victim mentality' and I gave them cognitive behavioral therapy to change the way they look at the situations in their life, giving them a different feeling/attitude, which changes or gives them more positive behaviors.

But if you are a people watcher...you can truly see that some people really do have bad luck. What do you attribute this to? You can only partially blame the person involved...something else is surely going on, but for the life of me I have no answer to this dilemna.

Any thoughts on this subject?

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Ecc 9:11 I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favor to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

God alone gives the victory (Psa_33:16). Even so the gaining of bread, riches, favour (i.e., influence, reputation), does not lie in wisdom, prudence, knowledge of themselves, as an indispensable means thereto; but the obtaining of them, or the not obtaining of them, depends on times and circumstances which lie beyond the control of man, and is thus, in the final result, conditioned by God -k&d commentary.

God is the ultimate one in control.
The thing is what do we do with opportunities God gives each and every one of us.

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my friends told me to "break a leg"... so I did... I didn't have any luck but I did have a huge doctor's bill! :)





jk!

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Actually, I don't believe in "luck" so to speak. I believe that God has our lives under control... I never say I am lucky... I say "I am blessed". I do know that some people are accident prone and some just make many bad decisions and have a hard time learning from mistakes... it just happens!

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Ron,

Although I agree with you and this is indeed a great post...some would tell us that God and the devil get blamed for far to much. But consider this, God is the one that hardened Pharoah's heart when Moses went before him asking for freedom for the children of Israel from Eygptian bondage.

God allowed the barriors/boundaries of protection taken away from Job with the exception of his life. Many people use this as a stopping off point to say that "God trusted Job". That is well and good but despite the things being restored to Job he still had the grief and loss of the children and possession that he had previously.

If God in his foreknowledge knows whether a person will make the most out of an opportunity or not, then why bother. A person can get gunshy after repeated slammed doors. Why would one trust God? Just food for thought here...I have heard many people ask me these questions and some I have no answer for and wonder about myself.

Thank-you for your honest post.

Rhoni

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Our relationship with God is kind of like a relationship between a husband and wife.
We say the lines for Richer or pooorer, for better or worse, in sickness & in health.

We only see the good things and when bad things come we want to ditch our mate.
People are like that in God.

One minister said, "we will all get our taste of sorrow & our own chance of being bitter."

"It is our choice if we become bitter or better!"

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Ron, Absolutely, that is why people blame God when a relative dies...knowing we are all going to die anyway, or blame God for not fixing a situation they got themselves into, but then again...time and chance happens to us all...that sucks!

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But Time & Chance isn't always for bad.
Think about it, hasn't God allowed good things to come into your life for unexpected blessing?

Ecc 7:14 In the day of prosperity be joyful, but in the day of adversity consider: God also hath set the one over against the other, to the end that man should find nothing after him.



There is a day of Blessing & a day of adversity.
He meant it that way so that we would not put our stock in "things or situations" that may not be in our control.

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Absolutely agree...

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I don't believe in luck, goods or bad. Nothing is by chance. God is completely in charge of our lives. All good comes from God and the bad is just God's way of teaching us a lesson or allowing us to learn a lesson. I've been known to say" if I didn't have bad luck I'd have no luck at all"., but only in jest. Since the death of my wife almost two years ago I have been writing my life's story. It has been good therapy for me because I can now see the pattern for the plan God has had for my life. Before; I couldn't see the trees for the forest, now I'm beginning to get the big picture.

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Sounworthy,

I am happy that you have found peace and resolution for your pain and sufferring. I too find therapy in writing books...I am in process of writing two.

God Bless you, Rhoni

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Ron,

Yes, I do beleive I have been the recipient of many good blessings through time and chance and for those I am thankful.

Blessings, Rhoni

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Lady Cocoa,

You have to look at the percentages. Some people do make poor decisons, and some just are a recipient of time and chance. As for the accident prone and the hypochondriac...they need therapy:) LOL

Blessings, Rhoni

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Sounworthy,

You must look at the overall picture...there are many things related to time and chance that happens to us all...but God does promise that he will..."work all things to the good of those who love him and are the called...according to his purpose."

We must not forget what the Bible says...it goes beyond what we think or feel.

Blessings, Rhoni

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We must always remember the word trumps experience, thoughts, and feeling on a matter.

God does not promise that all good things will happen to us, and He also says time and chance happens to us all. The final outcome outweighs any pain a sufferring we might find in this life whether on purpose, or by time and chance.

Blessings, Rhoni

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I do think "chance" is part of life....but not luck... Luck, to me, is superstition.... Not for Christians.... Now chance, that just happens.... If for some reason my taco sauce drips on my shirt everytime I eat my taco, are tacos bad luck? Of course not...I am sloppy and I need to change the way I eat....or quit going thru the drive thru! lol... If I don't send the chain email letters back will I have a week of bad luck? No! If I break a mirror, will I have bad luck? No...just a mess to clean up.... To me, that is what I consider "luck". Now, do the hypochondriac and accident prone need therapy? maybe so... but I think the hypochondriac needs to get over it's need of attention and the accident prone needs to stay from behind the wheel! :ursofunny just teasing about the last 2~!

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You answered Rhoni's post better than I could have.

My personal opinion is there is no such thing as good or bad luck...

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The accident prone don't need therapy...they need to slow down and pay attention to what they are doing...JMHO

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I will let you know if I believe in luck tomorrow, right after I check the numbers to see if I hit the lottery!!! :D

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I don't know that I call it "good luck and back luck" . . . BUT

I think that there are people that BELIEVE they are bad luck recipients, and they ARE (or at least they seem to be).

AND

I think that there are people that BELIEVE that they are good luck recipients, and they ARE (or at least they seem to be).

Do you think that positive thoughts generate favorable results and negative thoughts unfavorable?

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If you win, I will escort you to the office to pick up your cheque!:D

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Well the Bible says, "As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he..." and "Death and life lie in the power of the tongue..."

But good luck and bad luck?! As LC said earlier, it sounds like superstition to me.

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Many years ago someone told me we shouldn't say "good luck" to a person.
They suggested saying as God wills or a variation of that thought.

I don't believe we have good or bad luck but as was stated there is a certain amount of personal accountability in the outcome.

A saint might still get lung cancer even though they're saved and haven't smoked in years. The past still affected their health due to earlier poor choices.

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right! If I go around with a negative attitude, my actions will follow and I will mess things up, spill things, drop things, hurt people's feeling and so on...because of my attitude... I have seen this...For those who tend to be on the negative side of life, it isn't bad luck, it's their own perspective. They can't see the good in life and they will only see what is wrong....their actions and their expectations will be along the same lines....

Just like those who see the good in life... They will find joy in hard times and they will make it thru... Their actions will also follow their outlook on life. They may mess up, but they will see it as a learning experience and they will make the best of it... It's not because they have good luck...

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I should probably read everyone else's comments so I don't repeat anything... oh well.

Ecclesiastes 9:11
I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

Matthew 5:45
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Psalm 75:7
But God is the judge: he putteth down one, and setteth up another

Romans 8:28
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

Just some thoughts. I don't believe in luck. I do believe in chance and coincidence occasionally, but I believe that the Child of God's life has been turned over to Him and He is at the helm, working it all together.

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remember, we've been friends for years, bro! :ursofunny lol......... okay, at least send me a postcard from Hawaii!

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I like it! You used scriptures! lol Very good post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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I concur...

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Well maybe so, but the hypochondriac needs to get over the issue that causes them to self-medicate:gaga or need all:kickcan the attention

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Well, that is what Joel Olsteen preaches every Sunday so maybe he has a point there.:party

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The same goes for what we therapists call "over-spiritualizing". I think people use the term "if God wills" as a cop-out for them having to do anything or be accountable.

I agree with the illustration of the smoking habit...it is comparable to many situations in life; God may forgive you for your stupidity but you have to reap the consequences of your behaviors.:kickcan

Good post BTW

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POTD:friend

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Excellent use of scripture! I think the semantics may be different...maybe we should say "Chance" instead of "luck".:friend

Blessings, Rhoni

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what what what??? MEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee????


WOOT WOOT

haha

I read through the rest of the posts after, I think we're all aiming in the same direction. We all bear some responsibility for our lives, like the old saying says... "Do your best and let God do the rest"

Can I believe in GOOD luck?

My compay name is "Lucky Sweep"

The tradition of Chimney Sweeps kissing the bride for good luck started about 200 years ago after a London Chimney Sweeper saved the life of King George III. The sweep had been the only person brave enough to stop the King's out of control horses and carriage.


By Royal Decree the King proclaimed that all sweeps are good luck bearers and should be treated with respect. The folk law was established and to this day Chimney Sweepers are still invited to attend weddings (in England) and kiss the bride for good luck.

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So, what are you saying, that you became a chimney sweeper so you could smooch with a bunch of different women??????? :lol

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So, how many brides (other than your own wife) have you kissed?

:bliss

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and there ya have it!


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To quote the legendary basketball coach Booby Knight.

The desire to win is not the greatest motivation.

The desire for the preparation it takes to win is the greatest motivation in winning.

I think of all the times that I have been involved in bad times and felt like I was lost or alone in my situation.

Bad luck is only bad luck when a person looks only to the current bad situation to define themselves.


We should spend more time preparing for the next step if something in our path were to take a fork that we had no control over.

Bad luck can not stike down preparation and motivation.

The winner did not win by good luck they won in the arena of preparation.

The arena can be attitude, outlook, love, career, family, interest, success, ministry.

Add to our desire to prepare the hand of God.....

I quoted Bobby Knight.

The rest is my own thoughts.

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LOL!

There is a Dr. (Mrs) and her daughters that always run out to meet me ... (the story is only the first one gets the luck!!)

Most people however have no clue about the myth of "Lucky" chimney sweeps.