Obama, Clinton. Which is the lesser of two evils?
 

From what I have heard and read so far Obama is actually further left than Hillery.;.....IF that is the cae then to me she is the lesser of two evils

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Gore picked the wrong election to sit out.

:bliss

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I heard on the Rush Limbaugh show that a professor from Michigan who is Republican is going to vote Democrat for the Primary and will vote for Hillary just to throw the vote away from Obama. Not a bad idea. He is on his own radio show in Michigan and has great influence over many. So this may be a trend. Then in November he will switch back and vote Mc Cain in office.

As far as your question, I know that Hillary is the lessor or the 2 evils. IMHO

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Hillary is a political animal. Given that, I'd think that with a Republican Congress (and there will definitely be a Republican Congress by 2010 if a Dem is President) Hillary is the more likely to "play ball" with conservatives. That's what we'd need if such a scenario played out.

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Vote Constitutionalist and get all the Democrats (real and hidden with a R by their name) out!

:D

Chuck Baldwin for President!

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i think you are right.

Hillary is at least a pragmatist. Obama is a true believer.

I dont know if it is spin or truth but there has been some talk that Hillary talked Bill into signing the wellfare reform legislation. i find that difficult to believe but i am coming to think that when push comes to shove, she would "play ball"

Obama wont. I think he would be by far the more ridged.

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they are both bad, defeat them i say, lol,dt

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Even though Obama has been far left in everything he has done, he received the endorsement of a very conservative constitutional scholar last month, Douglas W. Kmiec. Wonder if he (Doug) is looking for a spot on the Supreme Court? My biggest fear with both Obama and Hillary is the Supreme Court. That is one thing that W has done right, he got advice from conservatives about his appointments to the bench. His choices have been better than both Reagan's and his dad's.

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Brother Price, something tells me we belong to the same party!:gaga

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Oh, that's mature. Why don't all the Republicans mess with the Dem primaries, and get Peewee Herman nominated? That'll show 'em.

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This is an execelent point.

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Timmy, Dems do it too. McCain won several states in 2000 because Dems crossed over and voted for him.

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very true, dems dont want to be reminded of the past only the future plans they have to mess everything up, lol,dt:bliss

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I definitely think Hilary is the lesser of the two evils. I am concerned about Hilary's hunger for power and her track record when she had a little power. But I am more concerned about Obama's true ideology, his appointments and the people he will surround himself with as president.

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Rush Limbaugh has been doing it for a while now. Its called Operation Chaos. It seems to be really having an effect too. After winning big on Super Tuesday, Obama should have wrapped up this nomination a long time ago. I think crossover Republicans voting for Hillary has helped her hang in there and prolong the fight. (Of course this Jeremiah Wright dude probably had a little something to do with it too. )

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Indeed. I think most people are overlooking the significance of that.
some bad decisions by a president might have an effect for a few years, and sometimes can can be undone by the next president...

But since a president's Supreme Court appointments are permanent, a bunch of bad SC appointments can have harmful effects on our nation for an entire generation and beyond!

8 years of Obama could be a nightmare for America. He'd probably get to appoint at least 2 (and maybe even 3!) liberal judges during that time, and it would shift America even more in the wrong direction.

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John Paul Stevens is 88 years old

Antonin Scalia is 72

Anthony M. Kennedy is 72

David H. Souter is 68

Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 75

Stephen G. Breyer is 68

Fortunately, of the oldest members only one is a true conservative (Scalia) and Kennedy is a wild card. Ginsburg looks and sounds bad. I was in the court last year when she had to be helped off the bench.

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A lot of times people think the only thing the Supreme Court impacts is Abortion. that simply is wrong. In fact while important to most of us here, Abortion is a very minor part of the story.

Liberal Judges have for the last half century worked to make the court into a second and even more powerful legislative branch of government.

That isn’t the role of the court but it has become its role repeatedly.

The simple fact is, with that kind of attitude, 5 people who never face election have the power to make any decision they want to make, without facing any repercussion.

Currently liberals have virtually abandoned passing legislation that would outlaw handguns… but that doesn’t mean they have given up. Instead, they wait for the day when 5 members of the U. S. Supreme Court will outlaw handguns.

Liberals will appoint justices that think their job is to advocate for various groups. That IS NOT what the court is supposed to be about. It is about making sure the law is legal. Nothing more.

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Amen.

Jay Sekulow likes to say, "Winning at the Supreme Court is easy, all you have to be able to do is count to five." We are fortunate right now to have 4 conservatives and Kennedy who after several years of being on the liberal majority seems to be more inclined to vote with the conservative justices.

Ferd if you are interested the recent second amendment case audio is available on www.oyez.org

This is one of the most interesting cases I have heard in a long time.

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if there ever is a revolution in this country it will be over guns, i allready have mine, count to 5 , cool, dt

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I will check out the link.

that recent case is very important.

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Thanks for the link!!!! I love it!!!

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http://www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/..._290/argument/

This is the link to the actual oral argument sometimes they can be hard to find until you are familiar with the site.

If I had to bet based on the questions Kennedy keeps asking in this oral argument, the DC gun ban is going to shot down.

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Getting wiser in his old age, I see.
:bliss

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one would hope, dt:boxing

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Oh my goodness. This is so interesting!!! Thanks for the link. I'll probably listen to it several times!!! Love it!!!

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No problem, though I don't know about listening to it several times. That particular argument is a bit longer than most, as a rule they are limited to 30 min each.

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LOL! I didn't mean that I would do that on the same day, but believe me, I will listen to it again.

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Guys...in all honesty it's a game. It doesn't matter who is better or worse out of Obama or Hillary. The Democratic front running is always touted as "the most liberal Democrat". It's designed to galvinize the conservative voting block against the front runner. If Hillary was front runner right now they would argue that she was the most liberal.

The voting history of any candidate is easily manipulated to look however they want it t look.

Here’s an example: Health care is a leading issue among Democrats. Clinton’s health care plan has far more government mandates and subsidies than Obama’s. So on what might be the greatest issue the Democrats are running on Hillary is obviously far more liberal and would spend far more tax payer dollars.

It’s a shell game. Don’t buy into it.

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Sorry for being so stupid and uninformed. Can't believe I didn't see that myself. Oh wise one who knows all, teach us that we may be able to discern truth from those evil spin doctors of the right.

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:toofunny

(TIC alert!!):

Yea... he speaketh words of wisdom daily. He droppeth knowledge upon thine head. Like the dewdrops of the morning, like rain from the heavens, so he droppeth his wisdom upon thee.

If thou shalt be wise, hearken thou unto the words of Chris Hall. Deep wisdom floweth from his lips. Sit thou at his feet, thou silly conservative, and learn knowledge! Selah.
:bliss

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Oh, I'm sure you're right! Dirty tricks abound, on both sides. I hate politics. ;)

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The reality is most people won't even get out of bed to vote for the candidate they want. If they have to switch parties (as they do in some states) in order to vote in the primary, I doubt they really sway the vote that much. The polls have been pretty consistent in their point spreads, so the Republicans haven't screwed up the Democratic primary too much. The reality is Obama can't seem to win in states that do not have a high concentration of black voters. So Hillary wins states like Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc.

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rolls eyes.

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Well, in fairness to B.O., he won Iowa (which is 93% white), Washington, Wisconsin,Alaska, to Dakota, Maine, and several other states with a relatively small black population.

Of course, most of those victories were before the Jeremiah Wright thing exploded on him.

Race is definitely a factor, so we'll see how things go in November against McCain.

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I am going to be honest with you. today I am quite the pessimist.

I dont care which of these too idiots wins the dem nomination, the dems will win the presidency. they will also pick up 50 seats in the house and just might end up with 60 seats in the senate.

we are looking at a pretty bleak 2 to 4 years.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_c...mussen_markets

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Only 2-4 years?

I am lifting up my head and looking for Jesus.

It is getting that bad & I echo D4T I would love to be wrong and have you be right Ferd-but I don't think I am.

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i hate to say it but you could be right especially with the pretenders around who claim to be cons but just want handouts, and me to pay more taxes, good grief, lol,dt:reaction

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well, politically speaking.

It is likely that in 2 years, the electoriate could change on the Dems and give back control of congress to the republicans. it wouldnt be unusual. in fact that would be typical. 4 years from now there will be another presidential election. if the dem president doesnt do very well, it is also likely that they would be ousted.

if you are talking economy... well all bets are off if a dem gets elected.

i will tell you as of today, we have not been in a resession. It is possible that by the 3rd quarter, we will see the bottom of this cycle and start moving up.

that means while the economy is certainly slowing, we have yet to see actual contraction (the definition of resession).

dems getting elected could very well spell doom for the economy because they will raise taxes on those who drive the economy, they will raise capital gain taxes, which really reduce investment.

they will create a greater divide between energy demand and engery supply (driving up costs).