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Rhoni 05-10-2008 11:38 AM

Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
 
When the following clip came to my attention, I felt it was imperative to pass it on to others. Our country is in very dangerous place during this election year and we need to be aware of the facts concerning potential presidential candidates. Please view the following clip and then pass it on. It gives factual evidence of what Barak Hussein Obama is really all about—our liberties to serve God are at stake more than ever before.

It is time to pray for our nation—II Chronicles 7:14!






http://www.eyeblast.tv/Public/Video.aspx?rsrcID=2036

Esther 05-10-2008 12:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 461576)
When the following clip came to my attention, I felt it was imperative to pass it on to others. Our country is in very dangerous place during this election year and we need to be aware of the facts concerning potential presidential candidates. Please view the following clip and then pass it on. It gives factual evidence of what Barak Hussein Obama is really all about—our liberties to serve God are at stake more than ever before.

It is time to pray for our nation—II Chronicles 7:14!






http://www.eyeblast.tv/Public/Video.aspx?rsrcID=2036

Very, very scary!

I PRAY he does NOT get elected!

Sister Alvear 05-10-2008 12:32 PM

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It is more than I can understand why our nation wants that guy elected...I think I could tell you why he has so many votes but it would not be proper to do that...Wake up America...please, wake up.

Brother Price 05-10-2008 12:33 PM

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I am voting 3rd party, and this simply confirms it.

Esther 05-10-2008 12:43 PM

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A friend shared with me she had a dream in Feb that he won the election and was told "Now the fear begins".

Scary, scary. Odd that she told me this morning and then Rhoni post this today also.

I guess the Lord wants me to really get a grip on this.

I sincerely PRAY that we can stop this happening!

Ron 05-10-2008 12:48 PM

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I think this election for you guys it is a case of door # 1, #2, or #3 & behind each one is a
lousy choice with pain & suffering behind it.

Anyone up for some enie, meanie, miney, moe?:hypercoffee

Esther 05-10-2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 461617)
I think this election for you guys it is a case of door # 1, #2, or #3 & behind each one is a
lousy choice with pain & suffering behind it.

Anyone up for some enie, meanie, miney, moe?:hypercoffee

We have nothing worth choosing from this year for sure!

But I may have to make an effort to vote AGAINST Obama!

Sherri 05-10-2008 01:26 PM

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Very scary video! I've always been against Obama, just because he has too many ties to Muslims, and would be sympathetic toward them if there was a conflict.

Rhoni 05-10-2008 01:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 461633)
Very scary video! I've always been against Obama, just because he has too many ties to Muslims, and would be sympathetic toward them if there was a conflict.


Sis, Sherri,

This is the beginning of the end...don't you think? Things are falling into place to make it easy for the Anit-Christ to set up himself as the one to bring peace to the nations but just when we think all is well... We are in the time of the mark of the beast, one world government, and the chip in our hand or forehead to buy and sell. It is extremely possible for a cashless society to be set up and is being set up. The church needs to be aware.

Blessings, Rhoni

Sister Alvear 05-10-2008 01:34 PM

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Dito, Sherri...if only the Americans knew what we do about the foreign fields...

Sister Alvear 05-10-2008 01:35 PM

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Thanks Rhoni for posting...I see things shaping up...America does not know what is on her door steps...

Sherri 05-10-2008 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 461640)
Sis, Sherri,

This is the beginning of the end...don't you think? Things are falling into place to make it easy for the Anit-Christ to set up himself as the one to bring peace to the nations but just when we think all is well... We are in the time of the mark of the beast, one world government, and the chip in our hand or forehead to buy and sell. It is extremely possible for a cashless society to be set up and is being set up. The church needs to be aware.

Blessings, Rhoni

I totally agree.

Mrs. LPW 05-10-2008 02:06 PM

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2 Peter Chapter 3

Permit me to post the entire chapter. For those of you who don't like long scripture readings... you can skip this. :)

1This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

2That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

14Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

15And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

17Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

18But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

I'm looking for His coming.

Sam 05-10-2008 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Price (Post 461609)
I am voting 3rd party, and this simply confirms it.

Third party?
what's that?

why would anyone vote FOR someone who has no chance to be elected when he/she could vote for someone who may not embody everything you believe/stand for but is by far closer than someone like the 2 "H's" Hillary and Hussein?

TRFrance 05-10-2008 02:13 PM

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The flag of Marxist Che Guevara in his Houston campaign office was interesting, to say the least. Notice how the media hasn't said much about that.

Now if there was a neo-Nazi or KKK flag hanging in one of John McCain's campaign offices, do you think the media would give him a free pass?

TRFrance 05-10-2008 02:14 PM

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Who knows.... It might actually be God's will that Obama wins.
Perhaps his presidency will hasten the downfall of our country, as punishment for its many sins.

The Lord does work in mysterious ways, they say.

Sam 05-10-2008 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 461673)
Who knows.... It might actually be God's will that Obama wins.
Perhaps his presidency will hasten the downfall of our country, as punishment for its many sins.

The Lord does work in mysterious ways, they say.

God has a plan and is working things out according to that plan.

For example, in Isaiah chapter 45, the prophet speaks of one to come who is named Cyrus and who is God's anointed person. Isaiah wrote and prophesied around 739 to 686 B.C. On October 29, 539 B.C. this man Cyrus defeated Babylon. According to tradition, Daniel showed the prophecy of Isaiah to Cyrus and he was impressed that the Hebrew Scriptures spoke of him by name almost 200 years before. He had defeated the Babylonians and allowed Israel to return to their land.

Habakkuk wrote about how God would use Babylon to chastise Israel and then would in turn suffer chastisement from YHVH.

In Daniel we read how God would work out His plan through Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece, and Rome before some of those groups were world powers.

All we can do is work and vote against what we think is wrong (abortion, homosexuality, socialist type government, media based morality, etc) and trust that God will place in power the person through whom He can work our His plan. If the person we voted against gets in office, all we can do is accept that as the will of God and trust in His grace to help us meet the challenges that come our way.

Praxeas 05-10-2008 02:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 461576)
When the following clip came to my attention, I felt it was imperative to pass it on to others. Our country is in very dangerous place during this election year and we need to be aware of the facts concerning potential presidential candidates. Please view the following clip and then pass it on. It gives factual evidence of what Barak Hussein Obama is really all about—our liberties to serve God are at stake more than ever before.

It is time to pray for our nation—II Chronicles 7:14!






http://www.eyeblast.tv/Public/Video.aspx?rsrcID=2036

WOW...talk about a POLEMIC!

Seriously, there are good factual and honest reason to NOT vote for this man. He is a socialist. He is way too liberal compared to past Democratic presidents.

None of which are "his father was a muslim"...in fact his father was a secularist muslim...in other words he would even be an infidel to most Muslims. Obama was raised by his Christian grandparents.

I get tired of these kinds of polemics because they fire off in the wrong direction when the real reasons we should not vote for him are far more insidious than having a muslim background.

Praxeas 05-10-2008 02:38 PM

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I'd rather have Hillery than Obama honestly. I see Hillery taking a lot of shots by Conservatives too....if they were really on the ball they would focus more on Obama just in case McCain loses

TRFrance 05-10-2008 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 461695)
WOW...talk about a POLEMIC!

Seriously, there are good factual and honest reason to NOT vote for this man. He is a socialist. He is way too liberal compared to past Democratic presidents.

None of which are "his father was a muslim"...in fact his father was a secularist muslim...in other words he would even be an infidel to most Muslims. Obama was raised by his Christian grandparents.

I get tired of these kinds of polemics because they fire off in the wrong direction when the real reasons we should not vote for him are far more insidious than having a muslim background.

I hear you, Prax.
the Muslim thing is a non-issue with me personally, but that was a small part of the video. Did you watch the whole thing? its 13 minutes long.

Apart from the muslim thing, the video raised a lot of valid points.. such as... Jeremiah Wright, che Guevara's flag, his refusing to wear an American flag, not holding his hand over his heart while the national anthem was being sung... etc.. (Even if he feels he has legitimate reasons for it, the national anthem thing, and the flag pin thing show an astounding lack of judgment, since he must know full well that many Americans would find his behavior on this to be offensive)


These are legitimate issues that deserve consideration. Not to mention his association with former domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, legitimate questions about his true feelings regarding Israel, and other issues I'll not get into right now. The fact is, this guy has more baggage than a 747. Its just a question of how of this is going to become widely known, and how much the media will sweep under the rug.

Praxeas 05-10-2008 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 461712)
I hear you, Prax.
the Muslim thing is a non-issue with me personally, but that was a small part of the video. Did you watch the whole thing? its 13 minutes long.

Apart from the muslim thing, the video raised a lot of valid points.. such as... Jeremiah Wright, che Guevara's flag, his refusing to wear an American flag, not holding his hand over his heart while the national anthem was being sung... etc.. (Even if he feels he has legitimate reasons for it, the national anthem thing, and the flag pin thing show an astounding lack of judgment, since he must know full well that many Americans would find his behavior on this to be offensive)


These are legitimate issues that deserve consideration. Not to mention his association with former domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, legitimate questions about his true feelings regarding Israel, and other issues I'll not get into right now. The fact is, this guy has more baggage than a 747. Its just a question of how of this is going to become widely known, and how much the media will sweep under the rug.

Did Obama say with his own mouth that he refuses to wear a flag pin? And did Obama say with his own mouth that he refuses to salute the flag? See a polemic can make anyone look bad if done the right way. They took an isolated event where the camera supposedly catches him not covering his heart...does he do that all the time? Did he forget? I don't know.

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The truth is that right after 9/11 I had a pin," Obama said. "Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq war, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security.
"I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest," he said in the interview. "Instead, I'm going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, and hopefully that will be a testament to my patriotism."
On Thursday, his campaign issued a statement: "We all revere the flag, but Senator Obama believes that being a patriot is about more than a symbol. It's about fighting for our veterans when they get home and speaking honestly with the American people about this disastrous war."
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

Mrs. LPW 05-10-2008 03:37 PM

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I could only watch a little bit of the video because of time restraints and even now can't get back to it right away, but I did see the part where Obama in an interview said he wouldn't wear the flag pin.. and I saw the video clip where he would not put his hand over his heart.

That would red flag me if I were an American. In Canada we don't usually put our hands over our hearts during the national athem... we stand at attention with hands at sides as a general rule. But if I were American.. where virtually everyone puts the hand over the heart, it would make me wonder.

I don't envy the United States and thier decision to be made. I do pray for you though.

Praxeas 05-10-2008 03:51 PM

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Not wearing a red flag is NOT an official snub of anything. How many of you Americans are wearing US flags right now on your shirts? Look, if he is a deceptive person why not just wear the flag to throw us all off? Why explain later

The truth is that right after 9/11 I had a pin," Obama said. "Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq war, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security.


"I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest," he said in the interview. "Instead, I'm going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, and hopefully that will be a testament to my patriotism."


On Thursday, his campaign issued a statement: "We all revere the flag, but Senator Obama believes that being a patriot is about more than a symbol. It's about fighting for our veterans when they get home and speaking honestly with the American people about this disastrous war."???

TRFrance 05-10-2008 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 461722)
Did Obama say with his own mouth that he refuses to wear a flag pin? And did Obama say with his own mouth that he refuses to salute the flag? See a polemic can make anyone look bad if done the right way. They took an isolated event where the camera supposedly catches him not covering his heart...does he do that all the time? Did he forget? I don't know.


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

Again, I must ask if you actually watched the video.

1... Yes, he explained "from his own moth" why he does not wear an American flag pin. His decision to stop wearing it, was in part, over the Iraq war. Whether or not one is satisfied with his explanation is up the individual. His own words?: " I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest". You can check the link here for more detail on that.

2... and no, he never stated that he refuses to wear the flag. However, in the incident on camera, he stood throughout the entire anthem and didn't do it, even though the other 2 candidates on the platform with him had their hand on their hearts. You're telling me it was just an oversight? Even a 2nd grader knows its traditional to cover one's heart during the anthem, but a US senator doesn't know it? For most public officials, it's second nature! Or what do you think... that he forgot? Do you think he didn't see hundreds of people right in front of them who had their hand over their heart?

You can vote for the Obama-nable candidate if you want to, but I believe this man is dangerous to America.

DanielR 05-10-2008 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 461772)
2... and no, he never stated that he refuses to wear the flag. However, in the incident on camera, he stood throughout the entire anthem and didn't do it, even though the other 2 candidates on the platform with him had their hand on their hearts. You're telling me it was just an oversight? Even a 2nd grader knows its traditional to cover one's heart during the anthem, but a US senator doesn't know it? For most public officials, it's second nature! Or what do you think... that he forgot? Do you think he didn't see hundreds of people right in front of them who had their hand over their heart?

You can vote for the Obama-nable candidate if you want to, but I believe this man is dangerous to America.

I am not an Obama fan, but I get so tired of hearing about Obama standing at attention instead holding his hand over his heart...both are very acceptable practices and standing at attention is the method of choice for people that have been in the military.

Praxeas 05-10-2008 06:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 461772)
1... Yes, he explained "from his own moth" why he does not wear an American flag pin. His decision to stop wearing it, was in part, over the Iraq war. Whether or not one is satisfied with his explanation is up the individual. His own words?: " I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest". You can check the link here for more detail on that.

Did you even read my post? I already quoted what he said and posted it twice now. His reasoning was that he felt there were better ways than to express patriotism. Anyone can wear a flag and it does not make them an American. Nor does NOT wearing a flag make one NOT american

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2... and no, he never stated that he refuses to wear the flag. However, in the incident on camera, he stood throughout the entire anthem and didn't do it, even though the other 2 candidates on the platform with him had their hand on their hearts. You're telling me it was just an oversight? Even a 2nd grader knows its traditional to cover one's heart during the anthem, but a US senator doesn't know it? For most public officials, it's second nature! Or what do you think... that he forgot? Do you think he didn't see hundreds of people right in front of them who had their hand over their heart?
I will tell you what...how many national anthems do you think he sat or stood through? (BTW he was standing)? You think none of them were on camera? Surely they can come up with more than that one instance. And as I said, if Obama was wanting to pull the wool over our eyes he would have FOR SURE put his hand over his heart and wear a flag just to fool us.


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You can vote for the Obama-nable candidate if you want to, but I believe this man is dangerous to America.
You are clearly not a very objective person. If you were you would have actually read my posts and saw that I NEVER indicated he was not dangerous. I indicated he WAS but for far better reasons than this polemic. Anyone can make a video making ANYONE look bad.

Praxeas 05-10-2008 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DanielR (Post 461797)
I am not an Obama fan, but I get so tired of hearing about Obama standing at attention instead holding his hand over his heart...both are very acceptable practices and standing at attention is the method of choice for people that have been in the military.

Subjective people don't want to hear that. They want to believe whatever they want to believe despite the lack of proof. They love these kinds of polemics

Praxeas 05-10-2008 06:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 461695)
Seriously, there are good factual and honest reason to NOT vote for this man.

He is a socialist. He is way too liberal compared to past Democratic presidents.

None of which are "his father was a muslim"...in fact his father was a secularist muslim...in other words he would even be an infidel to most Muslims. Obama was raised by his Christian grandparents.

I get tired of these kinds of polemics because they fire off in the wrong direction when the real reasons we should not vote for him are far more insidious than having a muslim background.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 461698)
I'd rather have Hillery than Obama honestly. I see Hillery taking a lot of shots by Conservatives too....if they were really on the ball they would focus more on Obama just in case McCain loses

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 461772)
You can vote for the Obama-nable candidate if you want to, but I believe this man is dangerous to America.

Sigh........

brotherjason 05-10-2008 06:37 PM

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I kinda figured he was dangerous as soon as I heard his earlier schooling was in a madras. I don't care if I'm politically incorrect or seem like I'm not being fair but the guy has too many ties to the muslim faith and apparently the wacko "nation of Islam" friends too. Regardless of who says what, in general the old saying is true, "birds of a feather flock together". He spent 20 years in the church in Chicago, don't tell me he didn't agree with the hate the white man religion that was coming across the pulpit!

mfblume 05-10-2008 06:40 PM

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Forgive me, I'm Canadian and I am not aware of all the details of the men and women involved in the political arena.

Obama's name includes HUSSEIN?

Folks, this is going to be a joke in the eyes of the world if he gets in. LOL. Wow.

America, get with it!

The Obama/Osama thing is one thing. Hussein too?

JaneEyre 05-10-2008 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 461633)
Very scary video! I've always been against Obama, just because he has too many ties to Muslims, and would be sympathetic toward them if there was a conflict.

Exactly. Hillary would be a much better choice for the Democrats.

As unhappy as people are with the choice of the Republicans, I think we have no choice but to get behind John McCain and help him with his campaign.

JaneEyre 05-10-2008 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 461642)
Thanks Rhoni for posting...I see things shaping up...America does not know what is on her door steps...

The Bible tells us that in the Last Days, people will call evil good and good evil. It is happening now.

Barb 05-10-2008 07:20 PM

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I sent the link to one of my brothers in Illinois and he was not surprised. He said that Obama has done nothing for their state...

Sam 05-10-2008 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 461810)
Forgive me, I'm Canadian and I am not aware of all the details of the men and women involved in the political arena.

Obama's name includes HUSSEIN?

Folks, this is going to be a joke in the eyes of the world if he gets in. LOL. Wow.

America, get with it!

The Obama/Osama thing is one thing. Hussein too?

Yes, his name is Barack Hussein Obama.

TRFrance 05-10-2008 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 461805)
Did you even read my post? I already quoted what he said and posted it twice now. His reasoning was that he felt there were better ways than to express patriotism. Anyone can wear a flag and it does not make them an American. Nor does NOT wearing a flag make one NOT american

You are clearly not a very objective person. If you were you would have actually read my posts and saw that I NEVER indicated he was not dangerous. I indicated he WAS but for far better reasons than this polemic. Anyone can make a video making ANYONE look bad.

Our posts got crossed, and thats why I didn't see it while I was posting mine. Simple explanation. Anyway...

Something tells me your word of the day is "polemic". I've never seen the word used so repetitiously on a single thread....but anyway...

If you cant see through Obama's weak and transparent "reasoning" about the flag pin, then maybe there's a blind spot there, Prax. Its one thing for a man to say he'll choose other ways to express his patriotism than a flag pin. And no one is stupid enough to imply that not wearing a flag pin is un-American in and of itself. You're so totally missing the crux of the issue. The he issue here is, he used to wear one, then he decided to stop. Why did he stop? The man himself said, he thought the prevalence of flag pins during the lead-up to the Iraq war (often by conservatives/right wingers) displayed a sense of false patriotism. You yourself acknowledge that the man is a socialist (aka left winger). Obama being a leftist, has long played to the anti-war left, and he chose to distance himself from the American flag as a political statement. Many of those on the hard-left despised those who wore those flag pins ["flag-wavers", conservatives, "Bush-supporters", etc], and they themselves wouldn't be caught dead wearing one, so as not to be "on the same page" as those people. His decision to stop wearing a flag pin was a statement, as he chose to pander to the hard left.


And no... I'm not politically objective. I am subjective. I am a conservative and I am no fan of liberals or liberalism. However, objectivity is not necessarily required when it comes to politics. Truthfulness is. If you see anything there thats not factually true, then feel free to say that. But this man making a video of someone he opposes politically does not require "objectivity". As a matter of fact, subjectivity and personal bias are a natural part of the process. Many political ads/campaigns etc, are supposed to highlight the flaws of the other guy. That's just how it works.

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Originally Posted by DanielR (Post 461797)
I am not an Obama fan, but I get so tired of hearing about Obama standing at attention instead holding his hand over his heart...both are very acceptable practices and standing at attention is the method of choice for people that have been in the military.

Did you see the video, Daniel? I'm guessing you didn't....
The man was not "standing at attention" by any definition.

Sam 05-10-2008 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Barb (Post 461823)
I sent the link to one of my brothers in Illinois and he was not surprised. He said that Obama has done nothing for their state...

It is my understanding that Barack Hussein Obama won his Senate seat because his opponent dropped out of the race. Then, within days of taking office in the Senate, he began running for President.

If you want to see what kind of a person he is or how he stands, check out how he voted on each issue. That information should be available some where. From my understanding, he refused to take a stand on many issues, just voted "present" instead of "yes" or "no." It is also my understanding that when he has voted, he is one of, if not the one, most liberal person in the Senate.

Sam 05-10-2008 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 461843)

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Did you see the video, Daniel? I'm guessing you didn't....
The man was not "standing at attention" by any definition.

It wasn't quite as bad as the Rosanne Barr action associated with the National Anthem a few years ago.

TRFrance 05-10-2008 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 461846)
It wasn't quite as bad as the Rosanne Barr action associated with the National Anthem a few years ago.

No, not by any means.
But some Obama-defenders have claimed that he was "standing at attention". It's strange that they would say that, because anyone who's seen the pics or video can see that he certainly was not .

pelathais 05-10-2008 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Price (Post 461609)
I am voting 3rd party, and this simply confirms it.

Bill, by voting "third party" you may be helping to elect Obama. We need to rally together against this guy (and Hillary) and will take a broad coalition to defeat them.

That means voting with people we may not entirely agree with in order to prevent those who are completely off the charts from holding power.

Rhoni 05-10-2008 08:40 PM

Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
 
I wish we had a more conservative Republican running...*sigh**


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