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Dedicated Mind 05-11-2008 06:23 PM

Does God Speak To People Today??
 
I believe God speaks to us through His word and through dreams, but does God speak to people directly? I am highly suspect of holy ghost impressions and of people saying, "God spoke to me". I am on the verge of being a complete skeptic of people that claim to speak to God. Hasn't the word told us all we need to know? How have you heard "the voice of God"?

TRFrance 05-11-2008 07:34 PM

Re: Does God Speak To People Today??
 
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 462247)
I believe God speaks to us through His word and through dreams, but does God speak to people directly? I am highly suspect of holy ghost impressions and of people saying, "God spoke to me". I am on the verge of being a complete skeptic of people that claim to speak to God. Hasn't the word told us all we need to know? How have you heard "the voice of God"?

Yes I have heard the voice of God before, personally, and also in prophetic messages given to me by others.

I'm not sure why such skepticism about people hearing from God.

The gift of Prophecy and Word of Knowledge are spiritual gifts of revelation by which God speaks to his people in the church today, as he has done since New Testament times. Doesn't God say in Acts 2 that in the last days His sons and daughters will prophesy, His young men will see visions, and his old men will dream dreams? And haven't you been in an Apostolic church before and had the Lord speak to his church via tongues and interpretation?

You mentioned being skeptical of "Holy Ghost impressions". Doesn't your pastor get preach his message based on impressions the Holy Ghost has placed upon his heart and mind? Would you even want to sit under a pastor who didn't hear from the Lord?

mizpeh 05-11-2008 07:52 PM

Re: Does God Speak To People Today??
 
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Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 462278)
Yes I have heard the voice of God before, personally, and also in prophetic messages given to me by others.

I'm not sure why such skepticism about people hearing from God.

The gift of Prophecy and Word of Knowledge are spiritual gifts of revelation by which God speaks to his people in the church today, as he has done since New Testament times. Doesn't God say in Acts 2 that in the last days His sons and daughters will prophesy, His young men will see visions, and his old men will dream dreams? And haven't you been in an Apostolic church before and had the Lord speak to his church via tongues and interpretation?

You mentioned being skeptical of "Holy Ghost impressions". Doesn't your pastor get preach his message based on impressions the Holy Ghost has placed upon his heart and mind? Would you even want to sit under a pastor who didn't hear from the Lord?

AMEN to all that you said!

How about when tongues and interpretation or prophecy goes forth in the church and you feel the Spirit of God within you? I always take that to be an indicator that the Spirit in me is confirming the word spoken by my brother or sister. Does that count even though God isn't speaking to me with audible words or putting thoughts in my mind but just letting me feel His anointing.

Rhoni 05-11-2008 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 462247)
I believe God speaks to us through His word and through dreams, but does God speak to people directly? I am highly suspect of holy ghost impressions and of people saying, "God spoke to me". I am on the verge of being a complete skeptic of people that claim to speak to God. Hasn't the word told us all we need to know? How have you heard "the voice of God"?

Well, as I pray and meditate on the things of God, He drops a thought into my mind, and then confirms it through the words of a person I respect.

Dedicated Mind 05-12-2008 02:24 PM

Re: Does God Speak To People Today??
 
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Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 462278)
Yes I have heard the voice of God before, personally, and also in prophetic messages given to me by others.

I'm not sure why such skepticism about people hearing from God.

The gift of Prophecy and Word of Knowledge are spiritual gifts of revelation by which God speaks to his people in the church today, as he has done since New Testament times. Doesn't God say in Acts 2 that in the last days His sons and daughters will prophesy, His young men will see visions, and his old men will dream dreams? And haven't you been in an Apostolic church before and had the Lord speak to his church via tongues and interpretation?

You mentioned being skeptical of "Holy Ghost impressions". Doesn't your pastor get preach his message based on impressions the Holy Ghost has placed upon his heart and mind? Would you even want to sit under a pastor who didn't hear from the Lord?

Can you describe how you heard the voice of God, "personally"?

I do believe that God can speak through toungues and interpretations and through holy ghost inspired sermons. I just doubt people hearing the voice of God though a thought or feeling.

Dedicated Mind 05-12-2008 02:27 PM

Re: Does God Speak To People Today??
 
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Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 462313)
Well, as I pray and meditate on the things of God, He drops a thought into my mind, and then confirms it through the words of a person I respect.

how do you know thoughts come from God or from hyperactive brain memory?

My Own Eyes 05-12-2008 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 462761)
how do you know thoughts come from God or from hyperative brain memory?


That's why it's called faith!

TRFrance 05-12-2008 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 462761)
how do you know thoughts come from God or from hyperative brain memory?

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 462756)
Can you describe how you heard the voice of God, "personally"?

I do believe that God can speak through tongues and interpretations and through holy ghost inspired sermons. I just doubt people hearing the voice of God though a thought or feeling.

It was not a feeling. It was a clearly spoken word.
It was not in an audible voice, but it was a clear and unmistakable sentence that the Lord spoke into my mind.

For personal reasons, I'd rather not elaborate further... but yes, I'm sure, with 10,000 % certainty, that this was Him speaking, and not me.

Blessings,
TRF.

Ron 05-12-2008 02:49 PM

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Yes God does speak to people today, the real question is are people listening?
I know of an Elder who recently passed away last fall & he prayed hours a day.
There were many times he could be heard in the room praying & it would seem like he was having a two way conversation!

God does speak & if you spend time with him you will learn to discern his voice.

TRFrance 05-12-2008 03:09 PM

Re: Does God Speak To People Today??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 462247)
I believe God speaks to us through His word and through dreams, but does God speak to people directly? I am highly suspect of holy ghost impressions and of people saying, "God spoke to me". I am on the verge of being a complete skeptic of people that claim to speak to God. Hasn't the word told us all we need to know? How have you heard "the voice of God"?

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 462756)
Can you describe how you heard the voice of God, "personally"?

I do believe that God can speak through tongues and interpretations and through holy ghost inspired sermons. I just doubt people hearing the voice of God though a thought or feeling.

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 462787)
Yes God does speak to people today, the real question is are people listening?
I know of an Elder who recently passed away last fall & he prayed hours a day.
There were many times he could be heard in the room praying & it would seem like he was having a two way conversation!

God does speak & if you spend time with him you will learn to discern his voice.

I'm kinda puzzled by what caused Dedicated Mind to start this thread.

God spoke to people in the Old and New Testaments (Adam, Noah, Abraham, David, Hezekiah, Paul, Ananias... to name just a few).

Why would anyone in the church today think that God has stopped speaking to his people? From what I can see, there's no biblical basis for thinking that.

So, what's this all about, DM? Talk to us about the impetus behind this thread.

Mrs. LPW 05-12-2008 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 462811)
I'm kinda puzzled by what caused Dedicated Mind to start this thread.

God spoke to people in the Old and New Testaments (Adam, Noah, Abraham, David, Hezekiah, Paul, Ananias... to name just a few).

Why would anyone in the church today think that God has stopped speaking to his people? From what I can see, there's no biblical basis for thinking that.

So, what's this all about, DM? Talk to us about the impetus behind this thread.

There is no biblical basis for tongues and miracles having ceased either but...

...but I guess that's another topic. lol

Dedicated seems to be doing a lot of thinking the last bit.

mfblume 05-12-2008 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 462247)
I believe God speaks to us through His word and through dreams, but does God speak to people directly? I am highly suspect of holy ghost impressions and of people saying, "God spoke to me". I am on the verge of being a complete skeptic of people that claim to speak to God. Hasn't the word told us all we need to know? How have you heard "the voice of God"?

If He did it once He can and does it do today.

Timmy 05-12-2008 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 462836)
There is no biblical basis for tongues and miracles having ceased either but...

...but I guess that's another topic. lol

Dedicated seems to be doing a lot of thinking the last bit.

Actually, there is Biblical basis. At question (among other things) is what "that which is perfect" means, in 1 Cor 13:8-10.

And yeah. Watch that thinking, Dedicated. See what it did to me? :lol

Dedicated Mind 05-12-2008 03:29 PM

Re: Does God Speak To People Today??
 
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Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 462811)
I'm kinda puzzled by what caused Dedicated Mind to start this thread.

God spoke to people in the Old and New Testaments (Adam, Noah, Abraham, David, Hezekiah, Paul, Ananias... to name just a few).

Why would anyone in the church today think that God has stopped speaking to his people? From what I can see, there's no biblical basis for thinking that.

So, what's this all about, DM? Talk to us about the impetus behind this thread.

People in the OT didn't have the full counsel of God as we do today in His word. I guess the reason for this thread is from a growing frustration with nothing happening in the spiritual realm though I believe if Israel ever builds a third temple there will be a widespread revival. I guess it's just frustration with preachers saying God spoke to me and its usually trivial matters when I think that God would speak about much grander matters and people would fall to the ground as dead men if they really heard the voice of God.

Mrs. LPW 05-12-2008 03:39 PM

Re: Does God Speak To People Today??
 
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 462852)
People in the OT didn't have the full counsel of God as we do today in His word. I guess the reason for this thread is from a growing frustration with nothing happening in the spiritual realm though I believe if Israel ever builds a third temple there will be a widespread revival. I guess it's just frustration with preachers saying God spoke to me and its usually trivial matters when I think that God would speak about much grander matters and people would fall to the ground as dead men if they really heard the voice of God.

I have heard God speak to me, not in an audible voice but in a clear distinct thought...
Seeing as the Spirit of God and the Word of God are one, you can be assured that if it truly is God doing the speaking in your heart or your ears... it will not contradict His Word.

I personally believe God wants to have a relationship with all of us, in which He can speak to us and we know His voice.

Timmy, all joking aside... the thinking of this world is a dangerous kind. That which destroys faith is of the God of this world.

MissBrattified 05-12-2008 03:48 PM

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I have no problem with someone saying "God has never spoken to me", but I take issue with calling others liars and saying "God has never spoken to you either." How can you know? How can you say that because God has never healed you that He has never healed me? Or that because you haven't spoken in tongues that I haven't either?

We should have more respect for others' experiences.

By the way, "faith" is when you believe in something you haven't seen or experienced. It doesn't take faith to believe in something you have personally experienced. :)

Mrs. LPW 05-12-2008 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 462870)
I have no problem with someone saying "God has never spoken to me", but I have a problem calling others liars and saying "God has never spoken to you either." How can you know? How can you say that because God has never healed you that He has never healed me? Or that because you haven't spoken in tongues that I haven't either?

We should have more respect for others' experiences.

By the way, "faith" is when you believe in something you haven't seen or experienced. It doesn't take faith to believe in something you have personally experienced. :)

Amen.
That's why Timmy needs to recieve the Holy Ghost for himself. Right Timmy?! :)

Neck 05-12-2008 03:59 PM

Re: Does God Speak To People Today??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 462247)
I believe God speaks to us through His word and through dreams, but does God speak to people directly? I am highly suspect of holy ghost impressions and of people saying, "God spoke to me". I am on the verge of being a complete skeptic of people that claim to speak to God. Hasn't the word told us all we need to know? How have you heard "the voice of God"?

Yes,

Problem is they can't hear his voice with the IPOD and ZUNE glaring in their ear's.

TRFrance 05-12-2008 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 462848)
Actually, there is Biblical basis. At question (among other things) is what "that which is perfect" means, in 1 Cor 13:8-10.

And yeah. Watch that thinking, Dedicated. See what it did to me? :lol

Only... what it did to you is no laughing matter, Tim.

Mrs. LPW 05-12-2008 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Neckstadt (Post 462883)
Yes,

Problem is they can't hear his voice with the IPOD and ZUNE glaring in their ear's.

That could preach nowadays, if the preacher was brave enough!!!

TRFrance 05-12-2008 04:02 PM

Re: Does God Speak To People Today??
 
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 462852)
People in the OT didn't have the full counsel of God as we do today in His word. I guess the reason for this thread is from a growing frustration with nothing happening in the spiritual realm though I believe if Israel ever builds a third temple there will be a widespread revival. I guess it's just frustration with preachers saying God spoke to me and its usually trivial matters when I think that God would speak about much grander matters and people would fall to the ground as dead men if they really heard the voice of God.

I'm frustrated in my own way, because I believe the church is not walking in the fullness of its power as God intended. I firmly believe we don't see as many miracles, spiritual gifts, healings etc. as we should... but that doesn't shake my faith in God and His word.

And I still believe the church's best days are ahead of it, not behind it.

Mrs. LPW 05-12-2008 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 462892)
I'm frustrated in my own way, because I believe the church is not walking in the fullness of its power as God intended. I firmly believe we don't see as many miracles, spiritual gifts, healings etc. as we should... but that doesn't shake my faith in God and His word.

And I still believe the church's best days are ahead of it, not behind it.

I hear you TR, more specifically the North American church.

GodsBabyGirl 05-12-2008 05:48 PM

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I Don't Believe He Ever Stopped Talking...


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