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Rico 05-31-2008 11:58 AM

Did You Know?
 
Did you know? If you can not afford an air conditioner for your house, but you have either an old freezer or fridge you aren't using (maybe in the garage or your basement), that you can put the fridge or freezer in any room of your house, take the doors off, let the thing run, and it will eventually cool that room down? Not posting this for any particular reason. Just wanted to show y'all how brilliant and gifted I am for figuring out solutions to problems most people don't have. :D :lol





Actually, this room that I work in is the hottest room in the house, I don't want to run the central A/C yet, my window units are too small to fit in my windows without building something to go on each side, and I happen to have an old freezer downstairs. The wheels of innovation started turning and viola! Instant thread topic. I know. I know. I start a lot of dumb threads. I've never claimed to be sane, so whaddya expect? :D

jaxfam6 05-31-2008 12:00 PM

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you sure you are not redneck instead of latino?

Rico 05-31-2008 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxfam6 (Post 478626)
you sure you are not redneck instead of latino?

Hehehehehe! I am both!

jaxfam6 05-31-2008 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 478627)
Hehehehehe! I am both!

yeah I can believe it

Dr. Vaughn 05-31-2008 12:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 478623)
Did you know? If you can not afford an air conditioner for your house, but you have either an old freezer or fridge you aren't using (maybe in the garage or your basement), that you can put the fridge or freezer in any room of your house, take the doors off, let the thing run, and it will eventually cool that room down? Not posting this for any particular reason. Just wanted to show y'all how brilliant and gifted I am for figuring out solutions to problems most people don't have. :D :lol





Actually, this room that I work in is the hottest room in the house, I don't want to run the central A/C yet, my window units are too small to fit in my windows without building something to go on each side, and I happen to have an old freezer downstairs. The wheels of innovation started turning and viola! Instant thread topic. I know. I know. I start a lot of dumb threads. I've never claimed to be sane, so whaddya expect? :D

Ok,, you are becoming waaay to much like your little idol there.. FRED SANFORD.. I could see him and Lamont doing the same thang

Rico 05-31-2008 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 478636)
Ok,, you are becoming waaay to much like your little idol there.. FRED SANFORD.. I could see him and Lamont doing the same thang

Brother, I used to junk for a living. I searched and searched for a musical horn that had the theme song from Sanford and Son so I could play it as I was leaving people's houses!! Never could find one. :toofunny

Rico 05-31-2008 12:25 PM

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Just an interesting side note on Sanford and Son. Someone from this county owns the original truck that was used in that show. He puts it in the yearly parade in the town of Dale.

clgustaveson 05-31-2008 12:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 478623)
Did you know? If you can not afford an air conditioner for your house, but you have either an old freezer or fridge you aren't using (maybe in the garage or your basement), that you can put the fridge or freezer in any room of your house, take the doors off, let the thing run, and it will eventually cool that room down? Not posting this for any particular reason. Just wanted to show y'all how brilliant and gifted I am for figuring out solutions to problems most people don't have. :D :lol





Actually, this room that I work in is the hottest room in the house, I don't want to run the central A/C yet, my window units are too small to fit in my windows without building something to go on each side, and I happen to have an old freezer downstairs. The wheels of innovation started turning and viola! Instant thread topic. I know. I know. I start a lot of dumb threads. I've never claimed to be sane, so whaddya expect? :D


Technically this wont work.

The specific heat of air is quite low and the reason the air inside a fridge is cooled is because heat is extracted through the radiator type instrument on the back and released into the room.

The specific heat of a molecule is C=T/N working into a larger equation involving compressibility and thermal expansion.

Now molecules in a gas have an elastic attribute to their kinetic energy meaning their collision will not cool or heat surrounding molecules simply by transfer of energy, otherwise the world would freeze in a matter of seconds. Now lets say you did leave your fridge open and the coolant begins to lower the temperature of the air fairly rapidly, where does that energy go? According the law of energy transfer it is carried into the coolant located on that device. But the motion of air will not cool the air in the room down because the heat associated with the compression ratio within the house can only be offset by increasing the airs compression within it's confines.

A/C force air up and out by increasing the compression of air within your house, coolant will increase the compression as well simply by cooling but the heat extracted will be released back into the same room thus resulting in a constant air mixture resulting in your house getting hotter due to the addition of kinetic energy to the equation through thermal motion.

nahkoe 05-31-2008 12:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by clgustaveson (Post 478664)
Technically this wont work.

The specific heat of air is quite low and the reason the air inside a fridge is cooled is because heat is extracted through the radiator type instrument on the back and released into the room.

The specific heat of a molecule is C=T/N working into a larger equation involving compressibility and thermal expansion.

Now molecules in a gas have an elastic attribute to their kinetic energy meaning their collision will not cool or heat surrounding molecules simply by transfer of energy, otherwise the world would freeze in a matter of seconds. Now lets say you did leave your fridge open and the coolant begins to lower the temperature of the air fairly rapidly, where does that energy go? According the law of energy transfer it is carried into the coolant located on that device. But the motion of air will not cool the air in the room down because the heat associated with the compression ratio within the house can only be offset by increasing the airs compression within it's confines.

A/C force air up and out by increasing the compression of air within your house, coolant will increase the compression as well simply by cooling but the heat extracted will be released back into the same room thus resulting in a constant air mixture resulting in your house getting hotter due to the addition of kinetic energy to the equation through thermal motion.

Or in English, dude that won't work. It'll make it hotter, not cooler. His explanation is better though. I like it.

Rico 05-31-2008 12:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by clgustaveson (Post 478664)
Technically this wont work.

The specific heat of air is quite low and the reason the air inside a fridge is cooled is because heat is extracted through the radiator type instrument on the back and released into the room.

The specific heat of a molecule is C=T/N working into a larger equation involving compressibility and thermal expansion.

Now molecules in a gas have an elastic attribute to their kinetic energy meaning their collision will not cool or heat surrounding molecules simply by transfer of energy, otherwise the world would freeze in a matter of seconds. Now lets say you did leave your fridge open and the coolant begins to lower the temperature of the air fairly rapidly, where does that energy go? According the law of energy transfer it is carried into the coolant located on that device. But the motion of air will not cool the air in the room down because the heat associated with the compression ratio within the house can only be offset by increasing the airs compression within it's confines.

A/C force air up and out by increasing the compression of air within your house, coolant will increase the compression as well simply by cooling but the heat extracted will be released back into the same room thus resulting in a constant air mixture resulting in your house getting hotter due to the addition of kinetic energy to the equation through thermal motion.

Thank you, but you totally lost me. :D I do know that air conditioners and refridgerators work similarly because I have taken both apart while junking. Many of the components are the same. That's what gave me the idea that maybe taking the doors off of one would help get a room cooled down, even though I figured it might take longer than an a/c would. I was thinking that, even though a fridge does not circulate air at the same rate as an a/c, eventually all the air in the room would have been circulated enough to cool it down. You are saying that won't work?

clgustaveson 05-31-2008 12:48 PM

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No, it wont work at all, the A/C forces cooled air into the house while expelling the heat energy back outside (through the radiator)

You could create an A/C by taking the radiator of and super gluing it to a fan and fitting it in the window!

Rico 05-31-2008 12:48 PM

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Ah! I think I get it now. The heat generated by the refridgerator would outpace the fridge's ability to cool the air in the room. Got it! It's true that the heat generating parts of a/c units are outside of the area they are being used to cool. Makes sense now! Hmmmmmmm. I wonder if there's a way to stick the fridge in the window.........................:D

clgustaveson 05-31-2008 12:49 PM

Re: Did You Know?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clgustaveson (Post 478676)
No, it wont work at all, the A/C forces cooled air into the house while expelling the heat energy back outside (through the radiator)

You could create an A/C by taking the radiator of and super gluing it to a fan and fitting it in the window!

Course the radiator will need to be on the back and all the lower components include the "pool" will need to stay attached to the radiator.

nahkoe 05-31-2008 12:50 PM

Re: Did You Know?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 478674)
Thank you, but you totally lost me. :D I do know that air conditioners and refridgerators work similarly because I have taken both apart while junking. Many of the components are the same. That's what gave me the idea that maybe taking the doors off of one would help get a room cooled down, even though I figured it might take longer than an a/c would. I was thinking that, even though a fridge does not circulate air at the same rate as an a/c, eventually all the air in the room would have been circulated enough to cool it down. You are saying that won't work?

Nope, it won't work.

Fridges/freezers work by removing the hot air from the inside, leaving only cooler air. If you take the doors off, or leave them open, you're going to get a lot of hot air floating around. It should be a wash, take the warm air out of the open fridge and put it back into the room, and then it'd float back into the fridge...etc..etc. But, you have the compressor and the other bits in there that are producing heat while they work to pull the hot air out. The heat they produce combined with the heat in the air to begin with, will actually make the room warmer.

nahkoe 05-31-2008 12:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 478677)
Ah! I think I get it now. The heat generated by the refridgerator would outpace the fridge's ability to cool the air in the room. Got it! It's true that the heat generating parts of a/c units are outside of the area they are being used to cool. Makes sense now! Hmmmmmmm. I wonder if there's a way to stick the fridge in the window.........................:D

I think you are redneck. lol I laughed out loud when I read this.

You could just put it in the door you know. Might fit better than in the window. Take less to make it fit at least. :toofunny

But, then your friends would have to climb in the window.

clgustaveson 05-31-2008 12:52 PM

Re: Did You Know?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 478677)
Ah! I think I get it now. The heat generated by the refridgerator would outpace the fridge's ability to cool the air in the room. Got it! It's true that the heat generating parts of a/c units are outside of the area they are being used to cool. Makes sense now! Hmmmmmmm. I wonder if there's a way to stick the fridge in the window.........................:D

That will work if the back of the item is facing outside!!!

lol

Rico 05-31-2008 01:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 478681)
I think you are redneck. lol I laughed out loud when I read this.

You could just put it in the door you know. Might fit better than in the window. Take less to make it fit at least. :toofunny

But, then your friends would have to climb in the window.

Hehehehehe! I could take a picture, name it "Redneck A/C" and publish it worldwide via the web!! :toofunny I saw a picture like that once. This fella had a window a/c sticking out of one of the back door windows of his car and a generator mounted to his trunk! :killinme

Praxeas 05-31-2008 01:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 478623)
Did you know? If you can not afford an air conditioner for your house, but you have either an old freezer or fridge you aren't using (maybe in the garage or your basement), that you can put the fridge or freezer in any room of your house, take the doors off, let the thing run, and it will eventually cool that room down? Not posting this for any particular reason. Just wanted to show y'all how brilliant and gifted I am for figuring out solutions to problems most people don't have. :D :lol





Actually, this room that I work in is the hottest room in the house, I don't want to run the central A/C yet, my window units are too small to fit in my windows without building something to go on each side, and I happen to have an old freezer downstairs. The wheels of innovation started turning and viola! Instant thread topic. I know. I know. I start a lot of dumb threads. I've never claimed to be sane, so whaddya expect? :D

Add a fan and you are set

Encryptus 05-31-2008 01:26 PM

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Or just fill it with dry ice. :-)

TRFrance 05-31-2008 01:28 PM

Re: Did You Know?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxfam6 (Post 478626)
you sure you are not redneck instead of latino?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 478627)
Hehehehehe! I am both!

So I guess that makes you... Ratino! :toofunny

Praxeas 05-31-2008 01:37 PM

Re: Did You Know?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 478677)
Ah! I think I get it now. The heat generated by the refridgerator would outpace the fridge's ability to cool the air in the room. Got it! It's true that the heat generating parts of a/c units are outside of the area they are being used to cool. Makes sense now! Hmmmmmmm. I wonder if there's a way to stick the fridge in the window.........................:D

Put the fridge in a room with the open door part in the door jam facing the rest of the house. Open a window in that room for the heat exhaust. Put a fan in front of the fridge door to blow the cool air to the rest of the house.

Block the front exhaust under the fridge so it is forced out the back...there you go :-)

Cindy 05-31-2008 01:42 PM

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clgustaveson 05-31-2008 01:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 478716)

Ghetto swamp cooler!

Rico 05-31-2008 01:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 478706)
So I guess that makes you... Ratino! :toofunny

:killinme I refer you to my signature line !

Rico 05-31-2008 01:48 PM

Re: Did You Know?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 478713)
Put the fridge in a room with the open door part in the door jam facing the rest of the house. Open a window in that room for the heat exhaust. Put a fan in front of the fridge door to blow the cool air to the rest of the house.

Block the front exhaust under the fridge so it is forced out the back...there you go :-)

Dude! It took me the biggest part of today to come up with my ideas. It took you only as long it takes to read a few posts to come up with all this?? You must be really redneckish. :D

clgustaveson 05-31-2008 01:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 478726)
Dude! It took me the biggest part of today to come up with my ideas. It took you only as long it takes to read a few posts to come up with all this?? You must be really redneckish. :D

It took you all say??

Does your woman look like this? -----> :gaga if so you might consider taking focus factor.

Praxeas 05-31-2008 01:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 478726)
Dude! It took me the biggest part of today to come up with my ideas. It took you only as long it takes to read a few posts to come up with all this?? You must be really redneckish. :D

lol

Redneck engineers

Rico 05-31-2008 01:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by clgustaveson (Post 478727)
It took you all say??

Does your woman look like this? -----> :gaga if so you might consider taking focus factor.

Well, not all day. Just once it started getting hot in this room. Because I work from home, I have to keep the door shut. It went from stuffy to so hot I was sweating. After enduring some suffering, I started thinking of ways to fix this problem. It will only get worse as the weather gets hotter. I am probably going to have to get off my lazy backside and just make whatever I need to make so one of my window units will fit the window correctly. Otherwise, I am going to be hating life once July and August get here. And, uh.........no comment on similarities between that smiley and the wifey! She has internet access too! :D

Cindy 05-31-2008 01:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 478736)
Well, not all day. Just once it started getting hot in this room. Because I work from home, I have to keep the door shut. It went from stuffy to so hot I was sweating. After enduring some suffering, I started thinking of ways to fix this problem. It will only get worse as the weather gets hotter. I am probably going to have to get off my lazy backside and just make whatever I need to make so one of my window units will fit the window correctly. Otherwise, I am going to be hating life once July and August get here. And, uh.........no comment on similarities between that smiley and the wifey! She has internet access too! :D

Nah, she probably likes pink bows in her hair, and buck teeth.

clgustaveson 05-31-2008 01:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 478736)
Well, not all day. Just once it started getting hot in this room. Because I work from home, I have to keep the door shut. It went from stuffy to so hot I was sweating. After enduring some suffering, I started thinking of ways to fix this problem. It will only get worse as the weather gets hotter. I am probably going to have to get off my lazy backside and just make whatever I need to make so one of my window units will fit the window correctly. Otherwise, I am going to be hating life once July and August get here. And, uh.........no comment on similarities between that smiley and the wifey! She has internet access too! :D

Well if takes her less time to think up a fridge A/C then I am sure she can extrapolate you think she looks like the smiley.


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