The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness !!!
 

This month's Pentecostal Herald is dedicated to the topic, articles include:


A Holy Heart by Nancy Grandquist
A study in Holiness by Stanley Russell
Biblical Standards or Personal Preferences by Ron Mullins
Holy Men and Women by John Hanson
Humor Does not Justify Quenching the Spirit by Tim O'Daniel
Princess or Prostitute by Natalie Huckaby
The Sermon of His Life by Jason Cox
Don't Let the Media Press you into its Mold by W.C. Parkey
The Mixed Multitude by Darrell Johns
Whats for Dinner by Ruth Harvey

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Oy vey.

What's for Dinner, Ruth? Holy Macaroni?

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Princess or Prostitute??? How manipulative.

Let me guess ... Jezebel makes an appearance in said article?

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Sounds likes some interesting reading.

I know Darrell John's would be good!

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I am going to see if it's online. Sounds interesting.

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Paid subscriptions are available. I think I will check it out.

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If holiness was truly understood, we would not need to have people teach us what holiness dress is. What is needed more in churches today is a submission to conviction, a discerning of the Spirit concerning what is modest and what is not.

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:blah :blah :blah :blah

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That was pretty cruel Dan

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Some people do have that problem Daniel, especially girls, that either, lick, chew on, or actually eat they're hair.

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Actually (before Little Napoleon gets started on his rant), the articles were very balanced and good. Concepts were addressed, as opposed to specific issues.

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Haller-luyah!!!!!!!!

Straighten them heatherns out!!!!

I hope they covered the essentials like the evil of the color red and open toed shoes.:happydance

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NOw you see????

Renda this is why this forum gets the reputation of mocking the UPC and Pentecost in general

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I think I already threw mine away.

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Would you even recognize a Jezebel in your church?

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Yes, I find the title of this one disturbing and have a very good idea where it is heading....

I am genuinly curious about this one though. ALL good humor is based on pain (slapstick) or embarrassment, or someone/somethings misfortune in general. Just look at ANY (good) sitcom, especially the older ones, and you see this to be the case.
The really bad humor comes when none of the above is called upon. This is when you end up with the real "groaners" -usually in the form of bad puns told by elders over the pulpit.

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bump

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If it weren't for the women...

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Depending on how you define "Jezebel", probably not. If you define a "Jezebel" as a harlot who seduces and conquers, there may be several and no one would know other then the men she slept with. If on the other hand she is defined as many in church do, as someone with makeup, then I would think it would be rather easy for obvious reasons.

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..... many men would have nothing to preach about?

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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! Would she stand out or blend in.:happydance:happydance

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And therein lies the problem RW, a few on here assume that very thing any time holiness is brought up, that it is about outward holiness or Pentecostal outward standards. Sad and pitiful. Whereas a few are more than ready to accept mockery of people's belief's and call it humor. It's not funny from either side. But I forgot if it's painful it's humorous according to you.

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Agreed, but always remember Bro Bill that there are people out there that have higher convictions and no one can be saved in their churches. I got family in a ULTRA CON church. If I mentioned the pastor there would be people on here that know the man, not UPC anymore. They do not allow anything, but bad attitudes it seems. I heard the aunt relay a store about a women showing up at church wearing jewelry. The aunt said something to the affect of it is not ok to wear that hear and made her leave. My wifes grandfather went started to go back to that church and the pastor told him if he wanted to come to that church he had to shave or he better not return. That is hard core.

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My suggestion to some of you would be......

Read it BEFORE you make judgmental statements regarding what the author was presenting! :girlytantrum:girlytantrum

I recently saw this Herald.... I didn't thoroughly read every article, but I skimmed enough to get the basis....

I think some of you are jumping to conclusions!

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:toofunny

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Agreed. Wish some of the articles were accessible online

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Again, I read the articles and found them quite balanced.

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I posted one of the articles on AFF.
The one I posted was by a person who is a librarian and English teacher. He quoted some old writings that spoke of baptismal regeneration and forgiveness through water baptism. Usually Oneness folks put these writings down because of their "Roman Catholic" leaning.

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I think the church needs more Holiness, but what we do not need is more rules and regulations. If Holiness makes you seperate by your dress then do it, but be very aware that what God might ask you to do does not mean God will ask me and vicaversa. Holiness unto the Lord is the greatest seperation point we have from the world. Our Holiness(inward stuff) is what the seperation point should be, but in this movement Holiness(outward stuff) has made us seperate from each other. In the words of Larry the Cable Guy, "that there ain't right."

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We know that Jezebel was a woman that painted up and was rebellious against God, not a man. So, she represents the female spirit of rebellion. now, that is not to say that men can be equally as evil just in a different way. The man doesn't paint up to seduce the prophet and she is under the Man yet tried to ursurp and manipulate herself.
Akon was a man and just as evil but in a different setting.

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The man doesn't paint up to seduce the prophet - nowadays that could happen.

she is under the Man yet tried to ursurp and manipulate herself. - some interesting mental images come to mind, but what did you mean?

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you know

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actually, seriously, no what did you mean?

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Encrytus come on

I'm not going to say at the risk of getting my head on the chopping block

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Our Pastor recently taught on a Sunday morning and the one quote I'll never forget is this:

Rules without Relationship will lead to Rebellion.

If you're only staying with your spouse and not taking off on her for the hottie at work who is slithering up to you or crying on your shoulder or letting you cry on thiers...because you know you have to, you've got a problem. Rules won't fix it.

Thank you to the people who have stated that we should reserve judgement on things that we haven't seen with our own eyes or heard with our own ears. You are the voice of wisdom, reason and godliness.

Proverbs 18:13

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You said it already. So what do you mean she is "Under the Man" yet tries to ursurp "and manipulate herself"????

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I got it last week and saw nothing that caused great alarm. Seemed to place "holiness" in proper context without undue emphasis on outward standards.

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nevermind

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I'd really like to know also, Mark.